On Trolls: A critique

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conspiracy theorist

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-Virgo Mars conjunct Jupiter with Saturn in 3. All retrograde. High school must have been difficult. Sorry about that.

- Many planets in human signs: very socialized, to the point of adhering to political correctness. What a stick in the mud!

- Combust Moon in 8 with Det. Sun. Moon rules asc - Ouch my friend....Shine on you crazy Diamond!

Verdict: You're not troll material! CONGRATULATIONS
 

Blaze

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Here we have the regal agent of change, Blaze IV, to endorse us with blessings from the crown. Our efforts are grassroots so we were going to petition for a grant to our cause. Will you be so kind milord as to give us some funding for this very pressing and contemporary project?

Ah, trivial questions, my friend. Funding will be supplied as needed.

CT said:
Saturn is a very controversial character in the astrological pantheon. Can you give more on the matter?

Of course, though it is only just a theory at the moment. You see, Saturn, the dry, ruthless, lifeless Planet, has a harsh nature by nature. All of us are born with a Saturn and it tries it's hardest to ruin our lives as best it can. For some, however, Saturn is either too strong or too weak. It is my hypothesis that Saturn, when too strong in ones chart, could lead to unwanted misery in both the physical and mental plain of existence for the native. In an attempt to coop with such strong dismay, the native releases their bitterness and inner resentment online - thus becoming a troll.

When Saturn is too weak, the native may lack discipline and thus social liberties - causing them to (unintentionally) become a troll.

Either option is greatly saddening, and it is with my funds and our two great posters work that we can and WILL make a change.
 

conspiracy theorist

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Of course, though it is only just a theory at the moment. You see, Saturn, the dry, ruthless, lifeless Planet, has a harsh nature by nature. All of us are born with a Saturn and it tries it's hardest to ruin our lives as best it can. For some, however, Saturn is either too strong or too weak. It is my hypothesis that Saturn, when too strong in ones chart, could lead to unwanted misery in both the physical and mental plain of existence for the native. In an attempt to coop with such strong dismay, the native releases their bitterness and inner resentment online - thus becoming a troll.

When Saturn is too weak, the native may lack discipline and thus social liberties - causing them to (unintentionally) become a troll.

Either option is greatly saddening, and it is with my funds and our two great posters work that we can and WILL make a change.

This impeccable piece of logical analysis is what you would expect from the king who was mentored by Plato himself! I am awed by this my good king.

Going back to CapAquaPiss' chart we see a not so good Saturn. Cadent, peregrine and retrograde although he is aspected by his ruler. This seems to have made CapAquaPiss TOO careful in speech so he becomes an adherent of political correctness so as not to be judged. It makes sense too, seeing as how his chart is dominated by human signs, he would do the thing that wouldn't get him ostracized from people/the group.

So Saturn alone is but one component of a chart wide analysis of trolls and their troll tactics.
 

Bunraku

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Dear Dr. Theorist,

As an inquiring mind, I would love to see your chart. The great researcher scholar should be a topic of great interest.


Signed,
Potential Research Grant
 

conspiracy theorist

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HERE WE HAVE THE CHARTS OF THE 2 RESEARCHERS

What do you see ladies and gentlemen?
 

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Bunraku

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I also attached Blaze’s chart, as I believe that it is relevant for our majesty’s contributions have been plenty and gracious
 

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conspiracy theorist

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There is already a lot of immaturity present with Jupiter conjunct the ascendant in every chart. CAP's rubric of the universal troll might have some credence to it.
 

Blaze

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Hmm...Thank you Bunraku for posting my regal chart. My Capricorn Mars is happy to aid all you upstanding members and researchers.

It seems Jupiter is quite strong in each chart...hmm. Saturn is also not as strong as it would like to be.

The trine from Mars to Moon signifies my stoic nature - showing I am anti troll.

We need other charts. Like Appleos.
 

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A fresh young research volunteer has asked me through private channels to show her chart!

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conspiracy theorist

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Lord oh why you had to curse me on this day?

THIS IS IT

We see through this one line post that one of the aristotelian axioms has been met. I quote the illustrious Bunraku:

Scientific truth one, postulated by the infallible internet wikipedia: "with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response”

Trolling in action m8s! Our practical knowledge has been increased by this comment and the critiquing thereby.
 

waybread

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OK, just a few factoids from your investigative reporter.

There is actually some legitimate research into trolling, otherwise known as on-line harassment. Trolls tend to be:

young-ish: average age is 29.

More likely to be white and male.

They tend to spend over an hour per day on trolling.

They rate highly on psychological traits for narcissism, Machiavellianism (manipulative behaviour,) psychopathy (inability to feel empathy,) and sadism (enjoyment of hurting others.)

https://www.theguardian.com/science.../25/internet-trolls-are-also-real-life-trolls

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...rolls-are-narcissists-psychopaths-and-sadists

Here are some personal stories, with the decision to quit trolling usually explained as "growing up" or realizing that their lives were out of control. Oftentimes they get into trolling out of boredom or enjoying playing the "bad boy."

http://kotaku.com/10-former-internet-trolls-explain-why-they-quit-being-j-1722649439

Tragically, some trolls have autism or ADHD, which might explain their difficulties in empathizing with their targets. Trolls may be very intelligent, but come from troubled backgrounds. Although trolls on line are typically anonymous, they also tend to be nasty to people in real life. Their anonymity on line means they can post hateful material without fear of getting caught. Although some trolls do get caught, when victims are able to track them.

Another interesting theory is that trolls, at heart, are actually racist, sexist, homophobic, &c. Since in most social groups it is no longer acceptable to express these sentiments in public, trolls seek the Internet as an anonymous outlet for the trolls' anxiety about people of color, women (especially feminists,) and other minority groups.

http://www.newstatesman.com/helen-lewis/2013/07/who-are-trolls
 

CapAquaPis

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Another interesting theory is that trolls, at heart, are actually racist, sexist, homophobic, &c. Since in most social groups it is no longer acceptable to express these sentiments in public, trolls seek the Internet as an anonymous outlet for the trolls' anxiety about people of color, women (especially feminists,) and other minority groups.

They think 9/11 (which happened today 15 years ago), rape or sexual assault, animal, domestic and child abuse, the Holocaust and Nazism, prejudice and discrimination, and stereotypes of the disabled are "funny". :annoyed: What if they encountered bigotry in their lives, would they laugh about their miserable experiences? Trolls get a thrill in others' expense, so I won't doubt this.

4chan's /pol/ (politically incorrect) is its 2nd worst subforum after /b/ which is more popular than mostly work-safe, kid-friendly and inoffensive /a/ (anime, hence the name 4chan). Other meme boards have subforums on dictators, serial killers, sexual fetishes (esp pedophilia or "CP") and the sickest, most violent, pornographic and xenophobic posts and memes on "teh intrnetzwebz".
 
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