Vagabondgirl
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But 0 and 29 degrees are critical degrees? What does this mean again? That you have 2 personalities or something?
No, it doesn't mean bad luck at all: merely that the influences of Mars, Sun and Saturn are limited, inhibited, and tend toward NEUTRALITY, being neither particularly "good" NOR particularly "bad" in their effects. The Moon at 29 Virgo is neither in a pit nor an elevation (see list) but say it were at 19 Virgo, that would be an elevation and this means that the influence of the Moon in the chart is amplified, that any debility it might have is largely overcome, and that its influence will tend to be positive/benefic in the chart.
Does anyone have some online reading links about ELEVATED DEGREES. This is fascinating stuff. I can't find much about it if I Google it.
But what if the axis AC DC or MC is on such degree. This should be very uncomfortable. especially AC DC should be very problematic then. Or what is if other planets are making aspects on this points.. is it helpful or not so? Does it affect the aspecting planet too?
You will see in my posting of 10/24/10 in this thread, that (to my understanding) the pits and peaks do NOT apply to asc, MC, house cusps, but rather only to planets and points in space activated by planets (ie, Parts/Lots; also it would likely apply to midpoints and antiscion as well)
Other degree qualities (light/neutral/dark, azimene) DO apply to ascendant, MC, house cusps, etc, but not the "celestial topography" of pits and peaks...
See my posts in this thread dated 10/23/10 and 12/27/10 for some information on your question.
Also, yes 22 Scorpio is both a pitted degree and a critical degree: therefore a planet in that degree would "shine forth from its pit", as I described in my earlier posts in this thread regarding critical degrees which also happen to be pitted degrees as well...
I dont subscribe to the detriment, fall etc terminology.......or that the number of degrees by itself is significant. Everything ties in with the aspects to other planets and if you have a good aspect at 4 degrees say Libra with Uranus sextile to say Venus then it is propitious. A chart has to be taken as a whole and not just isolated placements. I have never heard of "pitted" and I have been practising for 30 years. Some of the old astrology is narrow and sexist, moralistic.......according to the times. Uranus as the planet of astrology also deals with breaking down stereotypes, is modern essentially and humane, non sexist. Moving with the times!!!.
well I wasn't aware of this one,I imagine possibly for over assertiveness comes to my mindapparently, in my chart, Pluto and the Moon are pitted and Jupiter is elevated. Whoooo jupiter! Thats probably a pretty good planet to have all shiny and such.
Dr. Farr dont worry about if people like what you have to say or not. There are PLENTY of people interested in it all. And anyone that doesnt like your methods, here is an idea, they can just not use them. I cant even imagine why they banned you on another site, seems crazy and a waste of a good brain hanging around.
Beginners feel confused anyway, and if they're relying on this board as the sole source of information, they're going to be even more confused! Traditional/modern/Vedic - all have something to contribute, and if we decide to censor out more traditional viewpoints and concepts, then we're saying one form of astrology is better than another. Perhaps the board needs to be divided along trad/modern lines?
So how does using Sidereal affect your planets regards pits and/or critical degrees?My Mars got saved by being 4 degrees Libra. I wish my Saturn also got saved but at least it's not pitted in its fall because that'd totally null it as an influence. Maybe it'd be saved since now my Mars is considered a "benefic influence" and is opposing it, or maybe since Mars rules it? Luckily none of my planets are pitted, but I wouldn't mind that much if my Moon was pitted because it has no easy aspects and no short of 6 hard aspects. Also, my MC is 22 Scorp but since pits don't count for points it is only in a critical degree, right? My Pluto is 4 deg Sag which is also critical.