No job No Love (Desperately pleading for help)

nofate

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Hello fellow people!
I've been sad, low for quite some time. Despite being qualified, I haven't been able to get a job. I graduated 2 years ago and since then life has been an indefinite downhill road to me. Everything I've tried, every time I mustered the courage to try again have been futile. Personally, also things have been terrible during this time. I've met the worst people possible who have completely shattered my self-esteem. I see everyone moving on and doing well in life. Every time I try to stand up again and try, I come back to the same situation as before. Despite trying really hard. :sad:
Since then I have started believing in astrology. My sun and venus is debilitated. Mercury is also not placed well. I'm currently in the peak phase of sade- sati. I have partial kaal sarp dosh too. Can you help me wrt to my career and marriage?
 
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JUPITERASC

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Hello fellow people!
I've been sad, low for quite some time.
Despite being qualified, I haven't been able to get a job.
I graduated 2 years ago and since then life has been an indefinite downhill road to me.
Everything I've tried, every time I mustered the courage to try again have been futile.
Personally, also things have been terrible during this time.
I've met the worst people possible who have completely shattered my self-esteem.
I see everyone moving on and doing well in life.
Every time I try to stand up again and try, I come back to the same situation as before.
Despite trying really hard. :sad:
Since then I have started believing in astrology.
My sun and venus is debilitated.
Mercury is also not placed well.

I'm currently in the peak phase of sade- sati.
I have partial kaal sarp dosh too.

Can you help me wrt to my career and marriage?
Here are my birth details:
Date of Birth: 10/11/1991
Place of Birth: Dewas (Madhya Pradesh, India)
Time of Birth: 10:10 am
Hello welcome nofate :smile:


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JUPITERASC

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Thank you for the guideline and links, JUPITERASC.
Happy to be of use nofate :smile:
I just read your thread with question regarding job
and I wonder whether you are aware of a branch of astrology
known as Horary astrology
because
although general trends are indicated by natal chart
and obviously the natal promise of the natal chart is also shown
Horary astrology does provide more immediate answers
as it works in a different way to natal astrology
 

nofate

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Happy to be of use nofate :smile:
I just read your thread with question regarding job
and I wonder whether you are aware of a branch of astrology
known as Horary astrology
because
although general trends are indicated by natal chart
and obviously the natal promise of the natal chart is also shown
Horary astrology does provide more immediate answers
as it works in a different way to natal astrology

JUPITERASC
No, I have never heard of Horary Astrology. Can you suggest me any links or website which are good for the same? Also, I tried opening the horary astrology board but can't access it.
Anyway thanks for the suggestion.
 

JUPITERASC

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JUPITERASC
No, I have never heard of Horary Astrology.
Can you suggest me any links or website which are good for the same?

Also, I tried opening the horary astrology board but can't access it.
Anyway thanks for the suggestion.
You asked very specific questions on your other thread
to which HORARY could provide answers
we have separate Horary boards for categories of questions :smile:
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When will I get a job?
is the kind of question often asked at https://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=44


Should I look for a course abroad?
Do I have chances of immigrating abroad for work or after marriage?
https://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=49


When will I meet the right guy and get married?
https://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=43


there is also a reliable and popular online Horary forum at http://skyscript.co.uk/forums/viewforum.php?f=2&sid=15040d5f960d79a63a774dda8b20a134
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nofate

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You asked very specific questions on your other thread
to which HORARY could provide answers
we have separate Horary boards for categories of questions :smile:
i.e.
When will I get a job?
is the kind of question often asked at https://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=44


Should I look for a course abroad?
Do I have chances of immigrating abroad for work or after marriage?
https://www.astrologyweekly.com/for...trologyweekly.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=43


there is also a reliable and popular online Horary forum at http://skyscript.co.uk/forums/viewforum.php?f=2&sid=15040d5f960d79a63a774dda8b20a134
that site also offers a FREE online Horary tutorial course
with self-testing online http://www.skyscript.co.uk/horary_intro.html
If you read the intro to the FREE online Hoary tutorial
you then shall understand how Horary astrology works if you are interested
remember that as I mentioned earlier
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Thank you, JUPITERASC. This is really helpful of you. May all good fortune and luck come your way :)
 

jkxx74

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Hi nofate,


are you listing your birth day as October 11 or November 10? because there are two formats wanted to make sure. But I'll look at your time as if it was October 11. However I use Western astrology so you may need to wait for someone else to give you a Vedic reading.


Regards
 

nofate

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Hi nofate,


are you listing your birth day as October 11 or November 10? because there are two formats wanted to make sure. But I'll look at your time as if it was October 11. However I use Western astrology so you may need to wait for someone else to give you a Vedic reading.


Regards
My birthday is on November 10, 1991. I'm sorry for the confusion. If you can find any inputs or remedies wrt to my current situation in western astrology, that would be helpful for me.
Thank you for your time. Really kind of you :)
 

jkxx74

Premium Member
Your chart (for others to see so you get more comments, I will post mine in a while)


(red=transits, green=2nd progressions)


nofate_chart.png
 

nofate

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He is taking his time your love. He is older and perhaps from overseas or far away from where you live. Saturn is trine Venus from the 9th house.

Transit Saturn will also time this in two years by a transit trine to Venus creating a grand Trine. You may meet him before but in two years a serious commitment will be made.

He is an older man but very elegant and cultured.

Your work is frustrated for the next nine months due to Saturn square the MC, it is not that you are blocked but that you are getting more ambitious and the chart wants you to plan your moves first.

A beautiful and frustrated princess falls in love with a man of elegance from far away.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzB32ZScPS0

For now flower with beautifying yourself, being kind to yourself and enjoying the time you have to yourself while you can.

I feel this man comes from Dubai or has connection to Dubai. Saturn in rulership Aquarius with the 9th house connection to Venus in rulership is a dry Oil or conservative country. With the Grand Trine completed in two years I feel that this will be a country that has status. In economics Libra rules Oil.

He will be a man that has alot of Scorpio or Pluto about him.

This man is a deep lover if secretive and dominant at the beginning.

aayi main to aayi nazaaron ke
anjaane ik jahaan se
laayi main to laayi bahaaron ke
afsaane bhi wahaan se

I've come from an unknown land
of sceneries..
I have also got stories of springs
from there..

Thank you, Alchem. Your prediction is sweet. It does kinda give me hope that everything is not quite as downhill as it seems. Yes, pari hu main is a really nice song.
Some fun trivia for you : I used to listen to this song quite a lot. The sweet and soothing lyrics also made me think, like you, that the song was about a woman imagining her dream guy from a faraway land. But, sometime back, I read how the innate meaning was completely different and dark. Actually, the song is about Child abuse. It kind of really changed the way I used to feel about the song.
But, yes it is indeed a beautiful song. Thanks for taking out time and reading my chart.
 

nofate

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I hope that you now remembered what the song used to mean to you and not let the dark meaning effect you no more.

Here is a new song for your Venus and you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGpGHGboWO8

Remember in your days of bliss your old song came back to give you hope again.

Yes, indeed it does, Alchem. This song is really good. I have been listening to trance music these days. This is amazing.
All good wishes to you.
 

jkxx74

Premium Member
I'll start with some transits and progressions and then we'll talk about your natal chart a little also.

The difficult times have no doubt been caused by a combination of Saturn entering your 1st house (it very recently crossed your Ascendant through retrograde motion) which is read as a Saturn in the 1st house transit and this causes a profound sense of heaviness when dealing with other people - you may feel like everyone is against you and you have to fight your way through for every little thing you do. Saturn is toughening you up (and will continue to do so for the next 2-3 years) but the process will appear to be difficult at first, especially during the next few months while it's hanging out near your ascendant. It is natally positioned in your 1st house also so you have always had this sense that things are difficult and it is appearing all the more so lately with this configuration. The advice I have given elsewhere is to do what you are doing now - get different perspectives and as much help from people you know as you will allow yourself - Saturn will want you to go it alone but you can benefit from having others pitch in for you quite a bit during this time.

However once Saturn moves on and crosses your Ascendant the immediate pressure will lessen and you will regain some of your sense of effectiveness so the situation as extreme as it seems at present is temporary.

Another issue is your progressed Sun crossing into your 12th house along with Moon and Mercury - this house is not especially good for having our goals clearly defined or going out in the world and doing things - instead it's a house of solitude and reflection at best, so you may indeed feel (especially over the last 4 years) that you have been submerged into some kind of confused existence which is unlike 'the real you' in some ways. This house also promotes service to others at the expense of advancing one's own goals so you may have been inadvertently attracted to the kinds of people who are more likely to use you without giving much back in return. The house is one of spiritual growth but not so great for advancement in the material world - however you will benefit from others on a similar path. Try to attune yourself to this change as much as possible and learn from it what you can instead of fighting it (if you have been trying it) because it will imbue you with its own gifts over time, which may not appear as gifts just yet. However separately Mercury in the 12th here could indicate issues with family (siblings specifically) so make sure you are not having anyone plotting against you or hiding anything important from you because it is a possibility and it could be something which has been going on for a while.

Separately from this transit Uranus has been square your natal Saturn on and off the past I'd say year so you may have had instances where what you work so hard on suddenly gets shattered or blown apart by what seem like sudden developments coming at you out of nowhere - even though as a result you may also have learned that you can do things a bit differently even though this may not have been the intention in the beginning. This transit's most difficult side is that it makes your life seem very unstable and unpredictable and as it's an ongoing transit I'd suggest trying to take things as they come and not making too many long-range plans.

Transit Pluto squared your natal MC some 2 years ago so there was indeed some sort of 'fated' adjustment to your work goals, family situation (especially with your parents) or something related which caused you to realign your goals to something quite different from what they were before - this transit has now passed but you may still be feeling its effects and wondering if you can expect other such dramatic changes. The good news is that no, it's over, so continue with the goals you have at present.

The bad relationship situation is indicated by a square from your Venus to Uranus in your natal chart (one which I have also so could go into a bit more detail but it may cause you to feel you get into sudden affairs which start and end abruptly) as well as Chiron opposing Venus in the last months - some painful separation or other very hurtful event likely transpired in the area of personal relationships, specfically something which reminded you of a very painful event from the past. Chiron is retrograde and while currently in active will make one additional swipe at Venus some months into the future so this is something which will drag on for a while.

As far as work - there are currently no planets transiting your 10th house which would indicate positive or negative changes (however with transit Venus going through you may get a somewhat more favorable outcome if interviewing in the near months especially if you are going for something creative or which has to do with art or fashion) but Jupiter is in your progressed 10th house so it could also help boost your popularity in ways which are good for making a good impression on potential employers. Your progressed MC is also sextile progressed Jupiter so this same theme is twice reinforced - your chances are actually a bit better than normal even if your other placements at the moment are making you think otherwise.

Separately I see that you have a natal Sun-Pluto conjunction in Scorpio so this inevitably points to some very intense life experiences throughout and that is an aspect I would go and read up on because it's important to your personality and life in general. I will leave it at this for now but feel free to ask questions on any of these points.
 

nofate

Well-known member
I'll start with some transits and progressions and then we'll talk about your natal chart a little also.

The difficult times have no doubt been caused by a combination of Saturn entering your 1st house (it very recently crossed your Ascendant through retrograde motion) which is read as a Saturn in the 1st house transit and this causes a profound sense of heaviness when dealing with other people - you may feel like everyone is against you and you have to fight your way through for every little thing you do. Saturn is toughening you up (and will continue to do so for the next 2-3 years) but the process will appear to be difficult at first, especially during the next few months while it's hanging out near your ascendant. It is natally positioned in your 1st house also so you have always had this sense that things are difficult and it is appearing all the more so lately with this configuration. The advice I have given elsewhere is to do what you are doing now - get different perspectives and as much help from people you know as you will allow yourself - Saturn will want you to go it alone but you can benefit from having others pitch in for you quite a bit during this time.

However once Saturn moves on and crosses your Ascendant the immediate pressure will lessen and you will regain some of your sense of effectiveness so the situation as extreme as it seems at present is temporary.

Another issue is your progressed Sun crossing into your 12th house along with Moon and Mercury - this house is not especially good for having our goals clearly defined or going out in the world and doing things - instead it's a house of solitude and reflection at best, so you may indeed feel (especially over the last 4 years) that you have been submerged into some kind of confused existence which is unlike 'the real you' in some ways. This house also promotes service to others at the expense of advancing one's own goals so you may have been inadvertently attracted to the kinds of people who are more likely to use you without giving much back in return. The house is one of spiritual growth but not so great for advancement in the material world - however you will benefit from others on a similar path. Try to attune yourself to this change as much as possible and learn from it what you can instead of fighting it (if you have been trying it) because it will imbue you with its own gifts over time, which may not appear as gifts just yet. However separately Mercury in the 12th here could indicate issues with family (siblings specifically) so make sure you are not having anyone plotting against you or hiding anything important from you because it is a possibility and it could be something which has been going on for a while.

Separately from this transit Uranus has been square your natal Saturn on and off the past I'd say year so you may have had instances where what you work so hard on suddenly gets shattered or blown apart by what seem like sudden developments coming at you out of nowhere - even though as a result you may also have learned that you can do things a bit differently even though this may not have been the intention in the beginning. This transit's most difficult side is that it makes your life seem very unstable and unpredictable and as it's an ongoing transit I'd suggest trying to take things as they come and not making too many long-range plans.

Transit Pluto squared your natal MC some 2 years ago so there was indeed some sort of 'fated' adjustment to your work goals, family situation (especially with your parents) or something related which caused you to realign your goals to something quite different from what they were before - this transit has now passed but you may still be feeling its effects and wondering if you can expect other such dramatic changes. The good news is that no, it's over, so continue with the goals you have at present.

The bad relationship situation is indicated by a square from your Venus to Uranus in your natal chart (one which I have also so could go into a bit more detail but it may cause you to feel you get into sudden affairs which start and end abruptly) as well as Chiron opposing Venus in the last months - some painful separation or other very hurtful event likely transpired in the area of personal relationships, specfically something which reminded you of a very painful event from the past. Chiron is retrograde and while currently in active will make one additional swipe at Venus some months into the future so this is something which will drag on for a while.

As far as work - there are currently no planets transiting your 10th house which would indicate positive or negative changes (however with transit Venus going through you may get a somewhat more favorable outcome if interviewing in the near months especially if you are going for something creative or which has to do with art or fashion) but Jupiter is in your progressed 10th house so it could also help boost your popularity in ways which are good for making a good impression on potential employers. Your progressed MC is also sextile progressed Jupiter so this same theme is twice reinforced - your chances are actually a bit better than normal even if your other placements at the moment are making you think otherwise.

Separately I see that you have a natal Sun-Pluto conjunction in Scorpio so this inevitably points to some very intense life experiences throughout and that is an aspect I would go and read up on because it's important to your personality and life in general. I will leave it at this for now but feel free to ask questions on any of these points.

jkxx74,
I have never had a more accurate prediction than this one. The timeline is also pretty accurate.
I really do feel that I have to fight too hard to even get basic things. Since the last 4 years, I have been attracted to people similar to what you have predicted. Not that I expected anything in return, but I did feel quite used. Oddly enough, they started and ended quite soon. Yes, there have been many instances where I've worked very hard for something and suddenly land back in the same position as I was in before.
Do you think I should change my career and focus on creative pursuits?
Thank you for reading my chart and the extensive prediction. It all is eerily accurate. Can't thank you enough for your time and effort. :)
 

jkxx74

Premium Member
nofate,


a couple of things - I find it interesting you are here asking about this this week as you are having a Jupiter conjunct Sun transit apparently these few days - it's a good one and should buoy you a bit (read help you feel a bit more positive about the future) and I sure hope it does!

Now onto the chart - one other thing I missed is another progression, progressed Venus square Saturn which is also playing into your present feelings (the bad ones) with relationships, although it has the additional effect of making you feel getting a well-paying job might be difficult - it's very important to again think of how you're feeling things are worse than they actually are since Saturn has the ability to make us see everything as difficult. This one unfortunately also lasts a while (like a year or more) so there may be that pervasive mood coming at you at times and you may be unusually interested in stability more than anything both in your personal life and when selecting jobs. There is nothing wrong with this but keep in mind your feelings are being pulled down much more than usual by this.

Career-wise you could go into some of your interests so I can understand where you think you're going a little better but your Libra MC is well-suited to creative pursuits as well as working with people and getting them to work together in an organization - pretty broad description so it could be quite a few things which apply here. Because this is ruled by Venus (with the above square to Saturn) your feelings about it are likewise affected at the moment - you may be considering your options rather more seriously than at any other time in your life so when thinking about it just think of what seems to 'fit' right now and go for it - your outlook will brighten in a year or so once the progression clears but you may need to go with the different attitude you have now for the time being.

I am not sure if this is making sense so if not I'll try to clarify it a bit more.
 

nofate

Well-known member
nofate,


a couple of things - I find it interesting you are here asking about this this week as you are having a Jupiter conjunct Sun transit apparently these few days - it's a good one and should buoy you a bit (read help you feel a bit more positive about the future) and I sure hope it does!

Now onto the chart - one other thing I missed is another progression, progressed Venus square Saturn which is also playing into your present feelings (the bad ones) with relationships, although it has the additional effect of making you feel getting a well-paying job might be difficult - it's very important to again think of how you're feeling things are worse than they actually are since Saturn has the ability to make us see everything as difficult. This one unfortunately also lasts a while (like a year or more) so there may be that pervasive mood coming at you at times and you may be unusually interested in stability more than anything both in your personal life and when selecting jobs. There is nothing wrong with this but keep in mind your feelings are being pulled down much more than usual by this.

Career-wise you could go into some of your interests so I can understand where you think you're going a little better but your Libra MC is well-suited to creative pursuits as well as working with people and getting them to work together in an organization - pretty broad description so it could be quite a few things which apply here. Because this is ruled by Venus (with the above square to Saturn) your feelings about it are likewise affected at the moment - you may be considering your options rather more seriously than at any other time in your life so when thinking about it just think of what seems to 'fit' right now and go for it - your outlook will brighten in a year or so once the progression clears but you may need to go with the different attitude you have now for the time being.

I am not sure if this is making sense so if not I'll try to clarify it a bit more.

jkxx74,
I really don't know if things are as worse than they actually are. Although I do hope that like everything else you have predicted, this may also be true. Yes, I am seeking stability above everything else right now. I'll try my best to look for what fits right now. I hope it does brighten. Changing my attitude is a bit difficult because I cannot see any positive development as for now. But, I'll keep trying.
Thank you for your time and concern, jkxx74. I will try working on those. All the best wishes to you.
 

kshantaram

Premium Member
Your chart (for others to see so you get more comments, I will post mine in a while)
(red=transits, green=2nd progressions)
nofate_chart.png


as per western placidus chart :

hope find helpful take stock, do share salient pointwise feedbacks :


asc lord sat over own acq first,
growth-riches through technology-innovation-public admin-mass supervision-Law/justice;

separative ketu now 1.5yr transit acq 2nd heading towards saturn,
detachment from family-finances-employment,
pain-injury-surgery throat-teeth-lower legs-sciatica-head, etc to care;
prayers to Lord Ganapathy, offer red flowers tues mornings;

natal ketu cancer 7th, hyper-sensitive, indifferent towards relationship;
pain-injury-surgery abdominals, heart, lungs, circulatory, etc;


sat past 2.5yrs transit moon-sag 12th under mid-sadesati, under emotional stress,
tending to foreign lands and health and expense-relationship issues;

sat this week turns direct own cap first for coming 2 yrs;
sadesati phase-3, 2nd transit from moon sag, reduced emotional stress;
growth-riches through public admin-mass supervision-event management etc;
sat cap ambitious and hardworking; sat cap elevated aspect libra 10th for career;

moon sag philosophical, ambitious, sportive, optimistic, impulsive;
prone to colds; aptitude for psychology;


Scorpio-mars 11th malefic-badhak for cap asc,
stress-delays in income-gains-friendships-relationship;

3 yrs back sat transit sun-mars badhaka scorpio sun-mars 11th,
technology gains and gains from old friends-old people under much stress;
and health much stressed, arms-shoulders-ears-urological-piles etc;

sun-mars own scorpio 11th, gains through
research-occult-forensic-investigative aptitudes, and through govt,
but under stress-delay;


jup now transit sun-mars badhaka scorpio 11th,
gains through teaching-advisory-research roles, but under stress-delay;
jup scorpio trine own pisces 3rd for communications-advisory roles,
and trine elevated aspect cancer 7th for marriage-vocation;

year-end jup moves to mer-sag 11th, mer lord 9th for luck and lord 6th for employment,
gains through education-employment-communications-writings etc


natal jup as lord 12th over virgo 8th, critical thinking;
research-investigative-audit-quality management aptitudes;
success amidst adversity;
jup aspect own pisces 2nd supportive of family-fin-speech-singing;

venus lord 5th for luck-edu-romance-children-position,
over own libra 9th for luck-edu-father-distant travels;
seeking splendor in life; artistic-pharmacy aptitudes;
10th lord venus negating to 9th, negating career-retired attitude,
inclined to university teaching; venus the teacher too;


all planets between rahu-ketu and not ketu-rahu,
hence not intensive kalsarpayoga;
rahu transits over planets in quick sequence after birth clouds the mind;
and ketu cycles later tend to detachments and pain-injury surgery to care;

wear brown gomedh over pendant touching heart;
rahu over the asc could tend to foreignness;


hope jup-sat transits months ahead help, sat turning direct sooner,
and jup sooner moving to own sag 11th for gains;
while care with separative ketu transit acq-sat, prayers to Lord Ganapathy;
observe fast sat evenings; prayers to saint of faith, yellow flowers wed evenings;



do promptly ack, and discuss feedbacks how true-false-insightful-helpful-remedies etc,
traits-talents-health-prospects etc etc

btw what are your qualifications and work experience and goals-plans;


wishing well, chart has positive placements of sat-venus-mer;
sun-mars too over 11th for gains though under stress-delay;
hope helps reflect adapt and integrate ideas from the chart as relevant,


kshantaram
 
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