Summery Joy
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I have checked different sources. It seems the timeline I have shared before is the one most agreed upon (there are many conflicting ones), so I’ll just use it to answer this question: who shot down the MH17 plane? (chart attached again)
As I pointed out in my first post, the chart is quite descriptive.
Sagittarius rises, denoting a long distance trip—the airplane journey. The plane itself is signified by Jupiter, ruler of the Asc and the natural ruler of airplanes.
Jupiter has just crossed from Cancer, where it is exalted, to Leo, where it is peregrine. The plane had just crossed the understood borders between the Ukrainians and Separatist Ukrainians. Obviously, the latter territory is not as friendly to the plane as the former.
Jupiter is in the 8th house, the house of death. The Sun applies to Jupiter with a conjunction. Jupiter and the Sun are in mutual reception, but that’s not very good because Leo is trapped in the 8th house. Again, death is in the picture.
Mars, the natural ruler of weapons, and the ruler of 4th house (earth/ground) applies by square to Jupiter. This may signify the threat—ground missile aiming at the airplane.
The enemy is signified by Mercury in Cancer in the 7th house (it’s turned 1st). This immediately makes me think of Ukrainian separatists because Mercury is at home in the 7th, but not quite at home, having recently left its own sign Gemini. Sounds like the separatists alright. I’m guess that if was the Ukrainians, Mercury would be in Gemini, and if it were the Russians, Mercury would have some connection with the 9th house, being foreign to the whole territory.
In order to confirm who did it, we should try and find out why they did it. “Why” is tricky in horary. I suppose the 10th house can loosely denote the goal strived for. The turned 10th is the radical 4th, with Aries on the Cusp and a Libra Mars ruling it. War is what they are after. Now, I’m not knowledgeable on the Russian-Ukrainian situation, but whoever did this benefits from intensifying the conflict. But Mars is in Libra, the sign of truce. Peace treaty made though war and conflict?
Rebels generally don’t benefit from peace made by government deals in the offices of officials, so this points at the separatists again.
Mercury is in Cancer, which rules the turned 2nd house, and the Moon has just separated from Mercury in the turned 12th. Has there been a secret deal that related to the wealth of the attackers, which somehow led to this attack. Moon is Aries, ruled by Mars (war). The attackers have just had a weapons deal, and they were testing their newly acquired weapon by creating a game changing event, killing two birds with one stone?
Venus, the ruler of the turned 11th (allies) and 12th (secrets) is in the turned 1st (the attackers). Secret help from allies? It further supports the idea of a possible weapon deal. If it is the separatists, Russia may very well be the secret ally providing funds and weapons.
What I find strange is that Jupiter exalts Mercury in this whole mess. Maybe it signifies how the airlines thought it was safe to fly over that territory, over estimating its security?
Oh well, that’s all I can see: Separatists possibly backed by a Russian weapon deal.
As I pointed out in my first post, the chart is quite descriptive.
Sagittarius rises, denoting a long distance trip—the airplane journey. The plane itself is signified by Jupiter, ruler of the Asc and the natural ruler of airplanes.
Jupiter has just crossed from Cancer, where it is exalted, to Leo, where it is peregrine. The plane had just crossed the understood borders between the Ukrainians and Separatist Ukrainians. Obviously, the latter territory is not as friendly to the plane as the former.
Jupiter is in the 8th house, the house of death. The Sun applies to Jupiter with a conjunction. Jupiter and the Sun are in mutual reception, but that’s not very good because Leo is trapped in the 8th house. Again, death is in the picture.
Mars, the natural ruler of weapons, and the ruler of 4th house (earth/ground) applies by square to Jupiter. This may signify the threat—ground missile aiming at the airplane.
The enemy is signified by Mercury in Cancer in the 7th house (it’s turned 1st). This immediately makes me think of Ukrainian separatists because Mercury is at home in the 7th, but not quite at home, having recently left its own sign Gemini. Sounds like the separatists alright. I’m guess that if was the Ukrainians, Mercury would be in Gemini, and if it were the Russians, Mercury would have some connection with the 9th house, being foreign to the whole territory.
In order to confirm who did it, we should try and find out why they did it. “Why” is tricky in horary. I suppose the 10th house can loosely denote the goal strived for. The turned 10th is the radical 4th, with Aries on the Cusp and a Libra Mars ruling it. War is what they are after. Now, I’m not knowledgeable on the Russian-Ukrainian situation, but whoever did this benefits from intensifying the conflict. But Mars is in Libra, the sign of truce. Peace treaty made though war and conflict?
Rebels generally don’t benefit from peace made by government deals in the offices of officials, so this points at the separatists again.
Mercury is in Cancer, which rules the turned 2nd house, and the Moon has just separated from Mercury in the turned 12th. Has there been a secret deal that related to the wealth of the attackers, which somehow led to this attack. Moon is Aries, ruled by Mars (war). The attackers have just had a weapons deal, and they were testing their newly acquired weapon by creating a game changing event, killing two birds with one stone?
Venus, the ruler of the turned 11th (allies) and 12th (secrets) is in the turned 1st (the attackers). Secret help from allies? It further supports the idea of a possible weapon deal. If it is the separatists, Russia may very well be the secret ally providing funds and weapons.
What I find strange is that Jupiter exalts Mercury in this whole mess. Maybe it signifies how the airlines thought it was safe to fly over that territory, over estimating its security?
Oh well, that’s all I can see: Separatists possibly backed by a Russian weapon deal.
