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I've been researching astrology a lot recently, and I have been trying to understand my Saturn in Capricon 7th house placement and NN 7th house placement in Aquarius.

I've read plenty about what Saturn indicates as far as marriage later in life and am not very worried about that.

I was wondering if anyone would be able to offer any input or ideas on what they see in my chart as far as what sign I'm most likely meant to marry and if I will get married. Also if there is anything else they see that jumps out at them that may be helpful. Thanks so much!


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I've been researching astrology a lot recently, and I have been trying to understand my Saturn in Capricon 7th house placement and NN 7th house placement in Aquarius.

I've read plenty about what Saturn indicates as far as marriage later in life and am not very worried about that.

I was wondering if anyone would be able to offer any input or ideas on what they see in my chart as far as what sign I'm most likely meant to marry and if I will get married. Also if there is anything else they see that jumps out at them that may be helpful. Thanks so much!


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This is very intriguing subject isn't it?

Well, I must mention in the very beginning in explaining the methods here that they are of medieval astrology type (Bonatti, Abu Ali, Al Khayat and etc.).
To say that the method is 'Traiditional' is really using very wide range of time span in which different techniques for delineating marriage were used.
For example, the Hellenistic Astrologer's (Valens, Dorotheus and etc.) have used methods on their own, methods which I'll probably (not even later) not explain on this thread, but we can open another thread for that matter.
As this section of Traditional Astrology is quite new and in its beginnings, we now trow out the techniques here and there and title them as "Traditional". I hope that in the future we can make sub sections of traditional astrology, such as: "Medieval Astrology", "Hellenistic Astrology", Renaissance Astrology" and etc..

There are certain rules in Medieval Astrology compiled which can give quite good and workable methods for delineating marriage. The rules one can learn for a short period of time, but the practice is what is needed in order these rules to become second nature of the astrologer's intuitive tool in delineating such things as Marriage in the chart. This is what I would like to do on this thread: to practice as much charts as I/we will have the time to do it.


The Technique

The Compound Almuten is what is very practical thing in almost all methods used in medieval delineation. It seems that Bonatti and other medievals were very fond on Compound Almutens.
I will first give delineation for male charts, and in some later post will explain the delineation for female charts.

Finding the Compound Almuten for Marriage:

Find the Rulers of all 5 dignities for these places:

1. 7th house cusp

2. Lord of the 7th house

3. Planets in 7th house (if any)

4. Moon

5. Venus

6. Part of Marriage (According to Hermes) (ASC + VE - SA) for Men.

The Planet which gets most points over these places is Almuten of Marriage.
But consider also if there are impediments to these places.
If there is affliction to 7th house (by some Malefic's square or opposition), to the Moon (aspect, combust, cadent, retrograde and etc.)

See if one of the individiaul Almutens over these places is joined to the Lord of the Ascendant or its Almuten or the Lord of the 7th or its Almuten.
If they are in trine or sextile, and if especially in reception, then the native will rejoice in living beautiful life with his wife according to his desire.

But if the aspects were without reception, or if the aspects were square or opposition, then the significations will be judged lower.

Bonatti:



Example:


This is the chart of Akihito, Emperor of Japan

His chart is given on astrodatabank site as a chart of a man with successful marriage.

First we make Compound Almuten for these places:

1. 7th House Cusp at 28 Gemini:
Mercury 5, 3,
Saturn 3, 2
Jupiter 3
Sun 1

2. Ruler of 7th, Mercury in 16 Sag
Jupiter 5, 3
Sun 3
Saturn 3
Venus 2
Moon 1

3. Planets in 7th - there are no planets here

4. Moon 20 Pisces
Jupiter 5
Venus 4, 3
Mars, 3, 2, 1
Moon 3

5. Venus 15 Aquarius
Saturn 5, 3
Mercury, 3, 1
Jupiter 3, 2

6 Part of Marriage at 29 Sag
Jupiter 5, 3
Sun 3
Saturn 3, 1
Mars 2

Total:
Mercury 12
Saturn 20
Jupiter 29

No need to calculate further, Jupiter is Almuten of Marriage.
Look how strong is that Jupiter up there on MC.
He is receiving the Sun by sextile and the Part of Marriage on the Ascendant.

7th house cusp not impeded.
Its lord - Mercury, cadent (but in the first sign), not afflicted by Malefic's square or opposition, not by combustion.
Moon - not afflicted.
Venus - Saturn receives here in Aquarius.
Part of Marriage not afflicted, but indeed highlightened by ASC and Sun.

Lord (and also Almuten) of the 1st, and the Lord (and also Almuten) of the 7th are in Sextile. Jupiter receives Mercury.

Quite fortunate chart for marriage.
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Re: What Sign Will I Marry/Will I Get Married?

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Part of Marriage for Men:

ASC + VE - SA

Part of Marriage for Women:
ASC + SA - VE

Moon Quarters:
From 0 degrees to 90 (New Moon to 1st quarter) = 1st QUARTER (Oriental)
From 90 to 180 = 2nd QUARTER (Occidental)
From 180 to 270 = 3rd QUARTER (Oriental)
From 270 to 360 = 4th QUARTER (Occidental)

Chart Quarters:
From AC to MC = Oriental Quarter (Masculine)
From MC to DC = Occidental Quarter (Feminine)
From DC to IC = Oriental Quarter (Masculine)
From IC to AC = Occidental Quarter (Feminine)

Oriental vs Occidental Planets in regard to their position with the Sun:
Inferior planets (Venus and Mercury), behind the Sun are Oriental, before the Sun are occidental.
Superior planets (Mars, Jupiter, Saturn), behind the Sun are occidental, before the Sun are oriental.

Regarding women's charts

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In Women's chart the Sun is of great importance.
According to Ptolemy we seek to find the Sun in the two Oriental Quadrants: from AC to MC, and from DC to IC, because this signifies that the woman will be married in her youth and that she will take young man in her older years, but not an older husband.
But when the Sun is in the Occidental quadrants (from AC to IC, and from DC to MC), then her marriage is delayed or in youth she will take older man.

If the Sun is from the beginning of Aries till the middle of Taurus,
or from the middle of Leo all the way to the end of Virgo,
or from the beginning of Libra all the way to the middle of Scorpio,
or from the middle of Aquarius till the end of Pisces, and the significator (In women's chart this is the Lord or Almuten of the 7th house) is Occidental, she will marry in old age or with older man.

If the significator is under the Sun's beams, it signifies that she has no marriage.

If the Sun is in fixed sign signifies that she will be married to one man only.
But if in that sign there is Oriental planet, you will judge that the man will be young or that she will marry another one after that.
If the planet is Occidental, then he will be older.

If the Sun is in mutable sign she will have two husbands.
If the Sun is in cardinal sign she will have many men.



This is the chart of Jennifer Aniston.
She was very publicly married with Brad Pit and had numerous broken relationships after that.
Her Sun is in fixed sign, so she married once.
The problem is that this Sun is afflicted from the Lord of the 7th and the Sun itself is Almuten of the 7th. This is (and other testimonies) what brought divorce.

Jennifer was 31 years old when she married Brad, so not so young. Brad was 36, a little bit older then her.
Sun is in the Oriental Quarter, but from the Middle of Aquarius till the End of Pisces which testifies that the she will take older man and in her older years (older from Medieval viewpoint).
With the Sun in the same sign there is occidental planet, which again testifies about older man and marriage in older years.
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Re: What Sign Will I Marry/Will I Get Married?

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I've been researching astrology a lot recently, and I have been trying to understand my Saturn in Capricon 7th house placement and NN 7th house placement in Aquarius.

I've read plenty about what Saturn indicates as far as marriage later in life and am not very worried about that.

I was wondering if anyone would be able to offer any input or ideas on what they see in my chart as far as what sign I'm most likely meant to marry and if I will get married. Also if there is anything else they see that jumps out at them that may be helpful. Thanks so much!


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From the book The Art of Predictive Astrology by Carol Rushman, she states, “Interestingly, if a man with Capricorn on the seventh-house cusp marries, many times it is to a woman who has her Sun or Moon in Capricorn or who is quite a bit older and more mature and can nurture him. Or he may marry a woman much, much younger, but rarely a peer.”

From looking at your chart, you have similarities with my sister’s chart. She too has Saturn in Capricorn in the 7th along with the same planets, Moon and then Uranus and Neptune conjunct in Capricorn in her 6th house, except instead of Moon conjunct Uranus like yours, hers is Moon conjunct Neptune. Anyway, she got married last year and like Rushman stated, she married a man with his Sun in Capricorn. So perhaps you will marry someone with their Sun or Moon in Capricorn? She also met her husband at work and there isn’t a huge age gap between them either, he is 3 years older than her.

With your Saturn square Venus, you may feel like in order to gain love you must earn it, perhaps in childhood there was a lack of love from someone you cared for. As a result you may be afraid of rejection. I think it is important to know that you deserve love and your Sun Venus conjunction in Libra truly wants this as well as to be appreciated. You are loved, the universe loves all. The key to balancing this aspect is to have love and respect for yourself and to learn to let go of seeking approval from others or awaiting the rejection of others.

Your North Node in the 7th house is wanting you shift the focus on yourself to focusing on others. It is important that you learn to relate to others and know that in any relationships there is a need to compromise and consider the wants, needs and emotions of the other person, there is a flow of reciprocity on both sides. The sooner you learn to cooperate with others especially in a romantic relationship I believe the North Node in the 7th will work in your favor and Saturn in the 7th to give you real and true love.

It seems that ‘others’ is a big highlight in your chart, with your NN in Aquarius in the 7th as well as your Sun and Venus in Libra. You also have the three planets in the 6th house of service, including your Moon. Your Moon wants and needs to be cared for as well as to care for others in a practical sense. Moon in Capricorn is devoted to those they love, but can be hard on themselves. Make sure you nurture yourself and do things that make you feel good. Also, the lower vibrations of this energy is being unkind to other people in life, in the 6th people at work. Also try not to compare yourself to others. Look at how much you have accomplished in life. With your Capricorn Uranus and Neptune conjunction, it is important to not harness apathy and again what is being said is that you must not only look out for your interests but to look out for the interests of all. I believe this conjunction is about opening up to feelings such as love and compassion, and seeing the connection to humanity and how we have so many things in common.

With your North Node in Aquarius I think it is important that you hold on to your individuality, maintain your autonomy but also be able to combine forces with others that result in a win-win for all. I think you will find a lot of happiness when you work with others, especially for the greater good of all, humanitarian causes. Perhaps you could find luck in joining a group and finding someone who shares interests and the same goals. You probably already have great relationships especially with your family, and with your Mars in the 11th house, in Gemini you probably have a lot of friends too. I think this shows again how working with others is good for you and can help your achieve your hopes, wishes and dreams.

With Pluto in Scorpio in your 5th house of romance, you probably strive for the deep intimate connections. You are also very intuitive when it comes to reading others, with both your Mercury and Pluto in Scorpio. This also help prevents the indecisiveness that may occur with the Libra energies. This may also help you to know what you want and to go after it.

You must learn to balance your needs as well as the needs of others, so you are centered and nurtured and nurture others, so it truly is beneficial for all including yourself.

I hope this helps. I wish you all the best
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