ashriia
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I'm attaching the natal chart, and progressed chart of the terrorist in manchester for the date of attack, bear in mind; time of birth is unknown so it is a noon chart.
I've been looking over this chart, and thinking alot about it philosophically, like what is the purpose of a native being born to a chart like this. How would a native, use a chart configuration like this in a positive way. Because to be honest, if I saw a natal chart like this of anyone I were to meet I'd run, fast. To me, the configurations are just plain evil.
Let's take for instance the t-square, between saturn- ruler of his sun, pluto the ruler of his north node+venus, and mars. With its outlet- smack on lilith. Lilith and Pluto are both at critical degrees 29. Then to make matters worse he had another t-square this time involving jupiter, ruler of his moon in that ugly configuration.
I doubt he possessed the ability to empathize at all with anything or anyone. Because the placements that could have provided -empathy are tainted. Saturn is in pisces restricting that. And his venus in scorp is pretty much cursed.
Then you take a look at his progressed chart, saturn in exact aspect to the nodes - is probably an indicator of his death more than anything - since it ruled his sun. But look at mars square pluto both at 0 degrees. Then there was progressed lilith angular, at the same degree as his natal mars.
I know astrologers often say we are born with challenges, but looking at a chart like this, what is the purpose of the native?. Take a look at the north node in scorpio, and pluto being involved in that horrible t-square. It's almost as though fate indicated the day he was born that he would be a monster. He probably targeted young mostly girls because he knew they would be easy targets as seen by his saturn opposition mars.
It just has me thinking about whether natives can be born into this life to indeed commit evil, as a destiny, to set other events in motion.
Because looking at a chart like this, I fail to see how these configurations could have been integrated for positive use.
I'd be interested in hearing any opinions/thoughts/ or analysis of how the native could have used the t-squares positively.
I've been looking over this chart, and thinking alot about it philosophically, like what is the purpose of a native being born to a chart like this. How would a native, use a chart configuration like this in a positive way. Because to be honest, if I saw a natal chart like this of anyone I were to meet I'd run, fast. To me, the configurations are just plain evil.
Let's take for instance the t-square, between saturn- ruler of his sun, pluto the ruler of his north node+venus, and mars. With its outlet- smack on lilith. Lilith and Pluto are both at critical degrees 29. Then to make matters worse he had another t-square this time involving jupiter, ruler of his moon in that ugly configuration.
I doubt he possessed the ability to empathize at all with anything or anyone. Because the placements that could have provided -empathy are tainted. Saturn is in pisces restricting that. And his venus in scorp is pretty much cursed.
Then you take a look at his progressed chart, saturn in exact aspect to the nodes - is probably an indicator of his death more than anything - since it ruled his sun. But look at mars square pluto both at 0 degrees. Then there was progressed lilith angular, at the same degree as his natal mars.
I know astrologers often say we are born with challenges, but looking at a chart like this, what is the purpose of the native?. Take a look at the north node in scorpio, and pluto being involved in that horrible t-square. It's almost as though fate indicated the day he was born that he would be a monster. He probably targeted young mostly girls because he knew they would be easy targets as seen by his saturn opposition mars.
It just has me thinking about whether natives can be born into this life to indeed commit evil, as a destiny, to set other events in motion.
Because looking at a chart like this, I fail to see how these configurations could have been integrated for positive use.
I'd be interested in hearing any opinions/thoughts/ or analysis of how the native could have used the t-squares positively.
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