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Unread 07-17-2009, 12:23 AM
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Where was the child asteriod at the birth of your child?

So I thought I would make this thread to find out a little more about the Child asteriod 4580 for us women trying to conceive and I need the help of others that have had children.

There is limited information on the internet, but if you find heaps of information do let us know!

This thread is for people that have had children.

So the questions are;

1. Where is you child asteriod in your natal chart?
2. What aspects was in making to your natal chart at the birth of your children? In the Transits/Progressions/Solar Arc chart was it making an aspect to the natal child asteriod itself, the 5th house, any of the 5th house planets, the 5th house ruler, any of the angles, or anything else of importance?

Thanks for your help! The child asteriod is very slow and doesnt move much during the day, it stays at the same degree pretty much all day.

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Cool. I will work on the answers for you. I did read somewhere today online that it is OUR childhood, not how many children we have. I could be wrong.
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Re: Where was the child asteriod at the birth of your child?

can some body look at my chart and let me know the number of children i can have and does this also include the number of miscarriages .....
i have first time heard about asteroid 4580 as being the one for child i looked on astro.com and it is placed in 2nd house along with deblitated and retrograde jupiter.... can some one tell me the effect of tthat on my chart http://www.astrologyweekly.com/chart.php?y=1973&m=9&d=4&h=14&min=10&lat=32.03&lon g=75.52&zone=29

by the way i have one child born on 24 th jan 2009
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Re: Where was the child asteriod at the birth of your child?

Well um natally mine is in 8th house in Cancer. Opposition Neptune, trine Pluto. Pretty all over the place with meanings for that one I think??

How do I work out where it was at the time my child was born?

FIrst time I heard of this asteroid really.
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Well um natally mine is in 8th house in Cancer. Opposition Neptune, trine Pluto. Pretty all over the place with meanings for that one I think??

How do I work out where it was at the time my child was born?

FIrst time I heard of this asteroid really.
If you post your natal chart with the transits for the date of your childs birthday. That will work.

Even the synastry chart between both of you, so we can get the angles for your childs birthdate too.

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can some body look at my chart and let me know the number of children i can have and does this also include the number of miscarriages .....
i have first time heard about asteroid 4580 as being the one for child i looked on astro.com and it is placed in 2nd house along with deblitated and retrograde jupiter.... can some one tell me the effect of tthat on my chart http://www.astrologyweekly.com/chart.php?y=1973&m=9&d=4&h=14&min=10&lat=32.03&lon g=75.52&zone=29

by the way i have one child born on 24 th jan 2009
Hi can you draw your chart using astro.com? I cant read the degrees of this.
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Cool. I will work on the answers for you. I did read somewhere today online that it is OUR childhood, not how many children we have. I could be wrong.
No I dont think its related to how many children we will have, I am hoping it has something to do with when a child will be born. In transits/progression, etc.
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If you post your natal chart with the transits for the date of your childs birthday. That will work.

Even the synastry chart between both of you, so we can get the angles for your childs birthdate too.
Hey Kerrie! I would send you a PM with my child's birth day but your PMs don't work ?
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The child asteroid doesn't boid well for me. I checked it out as I hadn't heard of it before viewing this thread. The child asteroid opposed my saturn at birth. Natally, capricorn rules my 5th, and saturn is in leo. I'm 32, and I still don't have children. The child asteroid may be a further indicator of me having children at a later age. I know the original poster was asking for feedback from parents, but I thought my observation fit in an educational kind of way. I hope you don't mind me posting.

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Re: Where was the child asteriod at the birth of your child?

i have added this chart from astro.com kindly look in details and let me know..... i want to know do i have another child in my chart and also shed some light that this asteroid child does this indicate the number of miscarriages or just the children also..

the child asteroid is in 2nd house along with the retrograde n deblitated jupiter......

i have a daughter born on 24th january 2009,,,, dyu see any more kids in future
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Hey Kerrie! I would send you a PM with my child's birth day but your PMs don't work ?
Mmm not sure why? I know I was mucking around with my settings, I will see if I can fix it.
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Mmm not sure why? I know I was mucking around with my settings, I will see if I can fix it.
Still not working lol. If you tell me where to find information of where the asteroid is at different times I can try and work it out for you and relay it back ?

You could also try sending me a PM see if that works, if it works for you should work for me too then hey?
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Re: Where was the child asteriod at the birth of your child?

Kerrie,

At the birth of my 1st child, the asteroid Child was at 24'35" Taurus in my 5th house - conjunct Algol. It was tightly conjunct her father's Jupiter in Taurus conjunct Algol, in his 7th house, and squaring his Sun in Leo in the 10th.

At the birth of my 2nd child, the asteroid Child was at 22'10" Libra in my 9th house, conjunct Spica. It was also within 3 degrees of being conjunct my MC. It was in her father's 7th house, conjunct Quaoar ( has to do with liberation), exactly square his Sun in Cap in the 10th, and exactly trine his Saturn in Aquarius in the 12th.

I sense that the asteroid Child's placement in your chart at the birth of the child has something to do with the karmic reasons you are having that particular child - the lessons you will learn in the process of parenting the child.
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Re: Where was the child asteriod at the birth of your child?

Is it possible to have a safe pregnancy and healthy child
I recently checked on asteroid child, if you use the placidus system which mostly fits circumstances in life, I end up with asteroid child in the 8th House
sat directly opposite my sun. It also sits next to lillith, so am i right in thinking this is pretty bad, Child asteroid has a lot of hard aspects to it but a sextile to Jupiter in my 11th House, Which I think could mean, a child that comes via other sources or is beneficial or brought up by others. the last bit gives me the fear.
However if you look at my chart in the equal house system Child Asteroid sits in the 9th House, a child from another culture or via a religious group.
This is interesting because my Jupiter sits in the 11th House still with either system and as far as is often a good indication of adoption, I have Moon conjunct Neptune to which I understand is also a good indication of adoption.
My Parnter also has Neptune Conjunct Moon on his ascendent. In the both systems he has Asteroid Child in the 3rd House, but in the Equal House system he has Jupiter in that same 3rd House, and Uranus in the 11th House. In Equal House he has Mars and Chiron in the 5th, in Placidus he has only Sedna badly aspected. Anyway this seems a minefield to interpret and the mood I'm in I seem to look at the darker more depressing outcomes.
My intuition strongly feels the reason I've only just noticed these aspects is because it is crunch time, there are a lot of heavy transits going on as well so sometimes it hard to see the wood for the trees.
Please find both charts posted I know I keep going on and on about this but the urgency of the issue just won't go away.
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Kerrie,

At the birth of my 1st child, the asteroid Child was at 24'35" Taurus in my 5th house - conjunct Algol. It was tightly conjunct her father's Jupiter in Taurus conjunct Algol, in his 7th house, and squaring his Sun in Leo in the 10th.

At the birth of my 2nd child, the asteroid Child was at 22'10" Libra in my 9th house, conjunct Spica. It was also within 3 degrees of being conjunct my MC. It was in her father's 7th house, conjunct Quaoar ( has to do with liberation), exactly square his Sun in Cap in the 10th, and exactly trine his Saturn in Aquarius in the 12th.

I sense that the asteroid Child's placement in your chart at the birth of the child has something to do with the karmic reasons you are having that particular child - the lessons you will learn in the process of parenting the child.
This is what I was hoping for, the child asteriod was transitting the mothers 5th house with child 1 and about to transit an angle (MC) with child 2.

Where was it in your progression chart if you dont mind me asking with child 1 and child 2?
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Re: Where was the child asteriod at the birth of your child?

@beatnikgirl
I know little about the child asteriod and there is little information that I can find on the internet too. So I am not sure how successful a pregnancy will be for you, this thread was started so we could find out more information.

I am wondering why you consider now to be urgent? Would you be able to enlighten us of your dilemma. (do you have children already? how long have you been trying to conceive? are you looking at adoption?)

Thanks,
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This is what I was hoping for, the child asteriod was transitting the mothers 5th house with child 1 and about to transit an angle (MC) with child 2.

Where was it in your progression chart if you dont mind me asking with child 1 and child 2?

Child 1: 10'41" Aries, retrograde in the 2nd, tightly conjunct Eris Rx 10'26"Aries.

Child 2: 11'21" Aries, direct in the 2nd - still tightly conjunct Eris Rx 10'26" Aries,

Natally, Child is Retrograde at 10'03" Aries, tightly conjunct Eris Rx 10'31" Aries, in the 3rd
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i have added this chart from astro.com kindly look in details and let me know..... i want to know do i have another child in my chart and also shed some light that this asteroid child does this indicate the number of miscarriages or just the children also..

the child asteroid is in 2nd house along with the retrograde n deblitated jupiter......

i have a daughter born on 24th january 2009,,,, dyu see any more kids in future
I just had a look at your transits chart, the child asteriod was less than 1 degree off entering taurus which is the cusp of your 5th house... it was also sextiling your natal child asteriod.

And just on another note your part of fortune was heavily actived with the Uranus conjuction and the saturn opposition, as well as the sextile from Mars to the POF. (Its nice to see that the uranus/saturn opposition is clearly good too )
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I'm 37 I had to wait for a couple of years to get the all clear from my cardiologist I was born with a heart defect had surgery as a child, when I was 27 I had a blood clot on the heart due to a virus attacking the heart, I almost died I came off the pill and while I was still in recovery found out I had a very early miscarriage and after that I took some time to recover my heart condition has been monitored for the last 10 years it is only recently that my specialist has said if my next echo scan is good he will discharge me of his care. I have been waiting for a long time to feel sure my health was safe, but now I'm terrified I have left it all too late. I am concerned for my child and my own safety during a pregnancy so I guess I have decided to go more for the adoption or surogacy route, but even this is proving difficult, so I guess this is the urgency. In the Uk we have a limit for domestic adoption, people have to be under 40 if you wish to adoption a child under 5. It's pretty tough over here you can only adopt kids who are the same racial mix exactly as you, me and my partner have already been informed as he is white and I'm half Indian half Irish and was brought up by the Irish side, the odds for adoption seem pretty narrow so yes I guess this is probably why all the urgency. I've been desperate to have kids since I was 30 but health and relationship issues have meant time has gone on and on, just scared Its too late and I blame myself and feel I'm potentially ruining my partners chance of ever having a family. The other reason for the urgency is I recently had hormone imbalances which my GP thought could be signs of onset of menopause this is what brought home the ever decreasing options. I cry every day thinking I'm doomed to be childless.
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Re: Where was the child asteriod at the birth of your child?

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There are many options that you can do, but as you are progressing in age, there is a little urgency (for both the domestic adoption and your eggs) so dont be sitting and waiting for it to come to you.

You need to speak to your cardiologist specialist to ask how your heart will handle a pregnancy, or a multiple pregnancy (in case you go down the path of ART).

Go and see a fertlity specialist, if they are anything like they are in australia, you need to book 2 or 3 months in advace, the FS will be able to fix any hormonal issue that you have so you can conceive, thats the least of your problems.

Maybe the cardiologist and the fertility specialist can talk to each other and see how you will go.

If you cant conceive because of your heart, you could even try a surrogate, with your eggs and your partners sperm. Not sure of the laws in the UK, I was reading a book last night and a gay couple sent some sperm to LA for a surrogate, and I know there is a place in india that women also carry babies, I saw it on TV program. Maybe that could be one of your last options, as it might be expenive.

If you are looking at adopting, you could even try international adoption.

Its not all doom and gloom, you just cant be waiting forever. Go through as many doors as possible.
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Re: Where was the child asteriod at the birth of your child?

I know this is super late but Im wondering if there really is something up with the asteroid child 4580.

I checked my moms chart for when I was born, the transiting child was conjunct her moon im not sure about other aspects.

for my older sister her transit child was in her 5th house trine her natal venus.

im not sure how to tell transit aspects to natal using astro.com so ill figure the others out when I have more time, but I was wondering if anyone had anything more to add to the child asteroid... or had any experience with it?

also her natal child is in her first house almost conjunct ascendant in Gemini and she has 5 kids with all different dads.
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