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And why do you think that is? When my son in law gets a 911 call, is he more likely to be sent to a low income neighborhood, or a suburb?
Is anyone saying that the bad cops aren't committing brutality far beyond what's necessary to keep the peace? That's what started this whole mess, and it's been going on for so long, it's become considered normal. These cops are protected by higher ups and there's a code of silence the good cops are afraid to break.

These "low income neighborhoods" wouldn't happen to be minority occupied , would they? Are you blaming minorities for what's happening?

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Up here in Canada, with a much smaller population than the US, it is quite easy to observe the increasing government uses of the very old term "Divide and Conquer"

It is a very efficient way to control the masses.

We are finding ourselves more and more divided, and solutions are evading all, as each subgroup looks out only for their own subgroup.

There are so many divisions now, there is no way to heal each one, as curing one issue, steps on the rights of another subgroup.

Divided we fall.
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Up here in Canada, with a much smaller population than the US, it is quite easy to observe the increasing government uses of the very old term "Divide and Conquer"

It is a very efficient way to control the masses.

We are finding ourselves more and more divided, and solutions are evading all, as each subgroup looks out only for their own subgroup.

There are so many divisions now, there is no way to heal each one, as curing one issue, steps on the rights of another subgroup.

Divided we fall.
Can you list a few of the issues that are driving a wedge between previously friendly communities?

From what Oddity said, one of them might be the government's strict laws concerning absolute respect for "transgender rights". And, the extremely high price of housing?
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We're astrologers. Given the current and ongoing configurations, we should be expecting trouble. Tragedies are happening from the pandemic, and from the social/political strife, which are how the astrology is playing out. As we well know, things will change with the transits. No sense projecting how they are now too far into the future.
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Just wait til the pile up in December.
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katydid, tell your son in law thank you and stay safe. We back the blue
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Re: Black Lives Matter, Marxist?

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Do you blame all white people because some belong to the KKK?
You blame all cops for the actions of a few.

POLICE LIVES MATTER.
Thing is if police actually follow the code of conduct vs in response to "I can't breathe", a cop says "I don't care" should be fired automatically."Serve and protect" does not mean kill just to close a incident. Even being white eventhough chances of me getting arrested slim to none, I'd be still cautious of the cops today. I have never had a single problem with cops. One pulled me over for a lighbulb out. He was nice to me but that doesnt mean he will be nice to someone who is black/African-American. I don't think disbanning police force is a good idea BUT i can see why people want to push that. Your "few" is my too many. This is a rerun of 1992 riots in Los Angees. As Rodney King said nothing really changed.
I have my own beef with cops but it is an isolated case. I won't hold entire force on sh*tlist.

Way too many people are getting killed for no reason.
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Not seeing it where I am on the Central Coast. Just some young people hanging homemade nooses on street signs.

My guess is, the Trump administration is paying provocateurs to make it possible for him to declare martial law and suspend the Election. It's been predicted that he won't accept being voted out of office. There's no way to determine who's a BLM member and who's a paid agitator.
Do a little research. It's not Trump paying these dolts. It is Soros.

Watch some livestreams of the riots and you can see clearly who is rioting. They talk about it themselves.

https://www.twitch.tv/cctvuser

https://www.twitch.tv/teebsgaming
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Do a little research. It's not Trump paying these dolts. It is Soros.

Watch some livestreams of the riots and you can see clearly who is rioting. They talk about it themselves.

https://www.twitch.tv/cctvuser

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I mean the cop killers.
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Is anyone saying that the bad cops aren't committing brutality far beyond what's necessary to keep the peace? That's what started this whole mess, and it's been going on for so long, it's become considered normal. These cops are protected by higher ups and there's a code of silence the good cops are afraid to break.

These "low income neighborhoods" wouldn't happen to be minority occupied , would they? Are you blaming minorities for what's happening?
I am saying it is a two way street. If you stop and dissect each case that BLM complains about, 95% of the cases are justified shootings.

And by Justified, I mean that the person was armed and fighting back from being arrested for a crime, or unarmed but physically fighting over a weapon, etc.

So YES, I would be blaming the so called 'victims' in those cases.

As to your question 'am I blaming the minority communities' for what's happening. I would say Yes, in part, I am.

The cops are being called there, dispatched there , sent there because of crimes being committed. And although being called there, they are often in bad circumstances because of the strict non-snitching policies. So they answer a call for a shooting, but no one will talk and help them find who did the shooting,.

So that limits the cops abilities to stop the criminal element. And so it continues.

When a cop is in the inner city, it is often a tense situation. He knows he is often unwelcome. If someone pops out of a car quickly he is on edge. It creates a bad situation. People want to say that cops are racist and want to hurt minorities.

And that is not what is happening, in my experience with the cops I know. They are just in tense, volatile situations and fear for their own lives and sometimes things go sideways. If they are chasing a perp into an alley at night, and he stops and pulls something out of his waistband, the cop is likely to shoot. Is that racism or self defense?

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Governor Inslee's own cousin, Mike Brown, unfortunately a 40 year veteran of the Seattle police department, posted a meme entitled "All Lives Splatter" following the death of a young woman when a car plowed into BLM protesters.
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I am saying it is a two way street. If you stop and dissect each case that BLM complains about, 95% of the cases are justified shootings.

And by Justified, I mean that the person was armed and fighting back from being arrested for a crime, or unarmed but physically fighting over a weapon, etc.

So YES, I would be blaming the so called 'victims' in those cases.

As to your question 'am I blaming the minority communities' for what's happening. I would say Yes, in part, I am.

The cops are being called there, dispatched there , sent there because of crimes being committed. And although being called here, they are often in bad circumstances because of the strict non-snitching policies. So they answer a call for a shooting, but no one will talk and help them find who did the shooting,.

So that limits the cops abilities to stop the criminal element. And so it continues.

When a cop is in the inner city, it is often a tense situation. He knows he is often unwelcome. If someone pops out of a car quickly he is on edge. It creates a bad situation. People want to say that cops are racist and want to hurt minorities.

And that is not what is happening, in my experience with the cops I know. They are just in tense, volatile situations and fear for their own lives and sometimes things go sideways. If they are chasing a perp into an alley at night, and he stops and pulls something out of his waistband, the cop is likely to shoot. Is that racism or self defense?
Depends on the cop. Gotta get the natural born killers outtathere!
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Governor Inslee's own cousin, Mike Brown, unfortunately a 40 year veteran of the Seattle police department, posted a meme entitled "All Lives Splatter" following the death of a young woman when a car plowed into BLM protesters.
That was a rotten joke to make.

But that car did not purposely run into that protester. It was a black man, a refugee from Africa, that was stoned, and confused, and drove onto the freeway.

The protesters closed down the freeway every night for a month. And they had dance pArties on the middle of the interstate every night. The chances that someone was going to be hurt were high.

The police told the protesters that it was a dangerous thing and they couldn't fully protect them. NOW the city is being sued by the family of the victim,, even though she was told by the cops that they couldn't protect her and it was dangerous.

It is sick that anyone made a cruel joke about her death. But it doesn't change the fact that it was wrong for them to shut down the interstate for a full month, blocking everyone else from using them, and endangering themselves, just so they could have their dance parties.

The night it happened I was watching the livestream. IMMEDIATELY the protesters said it was a white right wing supremacist in the white jaguar that hit them. That went out all over the internet.

In fact, it was a black refugee that was driving for Grubhub and was smoking and getting high before he drove past the barricades and into the fwy.
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Depends on the cop. Gotta get the natural born killers outtathere!
There are not natural born killers filling up our precincts. The amount of illegal and egregious cases is very small.

Why isn't anyone talking about the blacks killed by the protesters and looters during the riots?

Like Officer Dorn.

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Depends on the cop. Gotta get the natural born killers outtathere!
My question was about what a cop should do if they chase a robber down an alley and he pulls something out of his waistband, should he shoot in self defense.

Your answer was to get the Natural Born Killers out of there?

Seriously? You think only 'natural born killers' would shoot to defend themelseves?
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Interesting.

So there is more police brutality against whites than there is against blacks?

So you are saying All lives matter?

facts are
there are more white people per capita than black
but the ratio is much higher for black/African Americans than whites
violence against native americans and latinos are up there too.
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That was a rotten joke to make.

But that car did not purposely run into that protester. It was a black man, a refugee from Africa, that was stoned, and confused, and drove onto the freeway.

The protesters closed down the freeway every night for a month. And they had dance pArties on the middle of the interstate every night. The chances that someone was going to be hurt were high.

The police told the protesters that it was a dangerous thing and they couldn't fully protect them. NOW the city is being sued by the family of the victim,, even though she was told by the cops that they couldn't protect her and it was dangerous.

It is sick that anyone made a cruel joke about her death. But it doesn't change the fact that it was wrong for them to shut down the interstate for a full month, blocking everyone else from using them, and endangering themselves, just so they could have their dance parties.

The night it happened I was watching the livestream. IMMEDIATELY the protesters said it was a white right wing supremacist in the white jaguar that hit them. That went out all over the internet.

In fact, it was a black refugee that was driving for Grubhub and was smoking and getting high before he drove past the barricades and into the fwy.

They obviously need better barriers.

Her family was grieving. This veteran cop is one of the bad ones, totally lacking in compassion. Wonder what his incident sheet looks like!

I have personally met some excellent cops, and very few bad ones. But it takes only a few bad cops to spark a riot, and ruin the reputation of an entire police department.
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Did a search for Eritrea, which is where the driver's family emigrated from. They have a dictatorship and are heavily militarized due to a long war with Ethiopia which only recently ended. About half of Eritreans are of an ethnic group called the "Tigray". They look like Middle Easterners. I haven't seen his picture. The one report I saw said that he looked "sullen". We won't know if the act was deliberate or not until further reports.

Yes, we can rule out White Supremacists for this tragedy.
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They obviously need better barriers.

Her family was grieving. This veteran cop is one of the bad ones, totally lacking in compassion. Wonder what his incident sheet looks like!

I have personally met some excellent cops, and very few bad ones. But it takes only a few bad cops to spark a riot, and ruin the reputation of an entire police department.
scarriest sht is... one of the Rampart division investigators was working where I used to work. some shady stuff was going on there. To this day I dont understand what whirlpool mess I was in. On the surface it is all clean, but underneath it looked bad!
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scarriest sht is... one of the Rampart division investigators was working where I used to work. some shady stuff was going on there. To this day I dont understand what whirlpool mess I was in. On the surface it is all clean, but underneath it looked bad!
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facts are
there are more white people per capita than black
but the ratio is much higher for black/African Americans than whites
violence against native americans and latinos are up there too.
"Overall, in 2019, 24 percent of all police killings were of black Americans when just 13 percent of the U.S. population is black an 11-point discrepancy. Mapping Police Violence also showed that 99 percent of all officers involved in all police killings had no criminal charges pressed against them."

https://www.statista.com/chart/21872...ack-americans/

All Lives Matter?
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My question was about what a cop should do if they chase a robber down an alley and he pulls something out of his waistband, should he shoot in self defense.

Your answer was to get the Natural Born Killers out of there?

Seriously? You think only 'natural born killers' would shoot to defend themelseves?
Natural Born killers deliberately look for, and try to actually cause situations like the one you describe--the perfect excuse.

A good cop can work wonders while avoiding such dangerous scenarios.
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"Overall, in 2019, 24 percent of all police killings were of black Americans when just 13 percent of the U.S. population is black an 11-point discrepancy. Mapping Police Violence also showed that 99 percent of all officers involved in all police killings had no criminal charges pressed against them."

https://www.statista.com/chart/21872...ack-americans/

All Lives Matter?
https://www.pnas.org/content/116/34/16793
police protects its own.

each life matters
take a look at Rampart division scandal and LAPD connection with Suge Knight
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For anyone who doesn't want a President-for-life as Dictator-in-Chief, consider that Trump's appointed successor would be none other than Donald Trump Jr.!
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facts are
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but the ratio is much higher for black/African Americans than whites
violence against native americans and latinos are up there too.
So? it is still showing that police kill whites along with blacks, latinos, asians, etc.

Meaning that police brutality is directed in every direction towards individuals who are perceived as threats, but not necessarily by the color of their skin.

Sure there are corrupt cops. Sure there are poorly trained and inept cops. But if everyone is a victim, aside from black people, why is it wrong to say "all lives matter?"

The idea that blacks are targeted more because of the color of their skin seems kind of simple.

Blacks do proportionaly commit more crimes, so it is more likely for police to have encounters with black suspects than any other type of skin color.

This is why you have a disproportionate number.

You want to have less black people killed by police? then you need to change the fact that black people commit the majority of the crimes.

How do you do that? well by stop electing democrats, who have reigned over the inner city for half a century.
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