Progressed Sun and Moon conjunct Natal IC

Hi All!

I haven't posted in a while but while reviewing my chart recently I found significant progressions and I would enjoy any feedback and ideas on interpretation and most importantly timing for the what looks like major changes in my life.

Let me first give a little background information on my life. Since finishing Graduate school in 2004 there has been very little progress or movement forward in any aspect of my life. I have not been able to find full time work, just occasional part-time or temporary employment. I had to move back home since I could not afford my own apartment anymore. I have not been dating anyone since college, as well. Every effort I make gets me nowhere. Every attempt, fails. Needless to say, this has been an extremely frustrating time for me as everything has been static in every area of my life.

Recent Progressions:

Back in 2009 the angles of my progressed chart shifted sign at the same time, to all cardinal signs. The progressed Asc (Libra) formed a conjunction to my Natal Pluto. I thought that at this time the shift of these energies would bring about major changes in my life...boy, was I wrong. There have been only a few changes since then. These include during this past year ending some relationships that were not healthy (Transiting Saturn in Libra), putting more attention and effort into my songwriting and clearing out clutter and getting rid of things I no longer need. However, nothing new has entered my life.

Significant Progressions 2011 - 2012

Progressed Sun exact conjunction to Natal IC in June 2011

Progressed Moon exact conjunction to Natal IC in July 2011

Progressed Moon changed signs from Scorpio to Sagittarius on Dec. 9, 2011

Progressed Moon exact conjunction to Natal Neptune (ruler of natal 7th House) in January 2012

Progressed Moon exact conjunction to Natal Jupiter (ruler of natal 5th House) in April 2012

Progressed Sun moves past the exact degree conjunction to Natal IC in June 2012
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Now, I am aware that the Progressed Sun and Moon conjunctions to my Natal IC could bring significant changes to my home life and by opposition to my Natal MC, to my career sector as well. I have wanted to move for the longest time but obviously cannot afford to. I have also wanted a good, steady job but haven't found one yet. With the Progressed lunar energy now in Sagittarius and with the Prog. Moon conjunction to Natal Jupiter in April, will this bring the possibilities of new opportunities on the horizon? I know progressions represent internal shifts while transits are external but will this energy create something new in my life? Will this "expand" my chances and bring me good luck? I know that with Sag opportunities/energies would include relocation (even foreign), travel, writing, education, etc.

Of course this would also square my Natal Ascendant and also oppose my Natal MC and Saturn, which are not easy aspects.

What about timing on these progressions? What's the best way to see when they will be "triggered"... by transit and/or a Lunar Return chart?

Some current Transits:
Transiting Uranus is in opposition to my natal Pluto (exact) making me feel restless and like I want to break free. Transiting Jupiter is in opposition to my natal Venus (4 degrees) - a possible loss of temporary disappointment. Transiting Neptune and Chiron are conjunct my natal DC (by 2 degrees and 1 degree, respectively) - idealizing others and a time of pain and healing in a relationship. Transiting Saturn is conjunct natal Venus (1 degree) - a time of reassessment and reevaluation.

I feel I have a real window of opportunity here and I don't want to waste it! Any advice or insights would be much appreciated.

Thanks!

A chart with your transits and progressions please. This data is tedious to read and we are visual people. If you dont have a natal aspect with SUn Moon and your IC there wouldnt be any earthshaking events..

I attached the file in my initial post but the image didn't open but rather only attached.

Sorry...Thought the Natal, Progressed w/transits was attached. Here is the correct chart.

Now, I am aware that the Progressed Sun[prog sun is exact if your TOB is correcta and this to me suggests more focus on family matter, or possibly working from home even....] and Moon conjunctions to my Natal IC could bring significant changes to my home life and by opposition to my Natal MC, to my career sector as well.
[prog moon is currently conj natal neptune, this may well cause confused domestic circumstances and emotional sensitivity]
I have wanted to move for the longest time but obviously cannot afford to[can you poss do bit of decorating/painting?]. I have also wanted a good, steady job but haven't found one yet.

With the Progressed lunar energy now in Sagittarius and with the Prog. Moon conjunction to Natal Jupiter in April, will this bring the possibilities of new opportunities on the horizon? I know progressions represent internal shifts while transits are external but will this energy create something new in my life? Will this "expand" my chances and bring me good luck?[with regards to work/career OR romance? my bet more likely romance...] I know that with Sag opportunities/energies would include relocation (even foreign), travel, writing, education, etc. [so whilst looking for a job, have your thought out higher education?]

Of course this would also square my Natal Ascendant and also oppose my Natal MC and Saturn, which are not easy aspects.

What about timing on these progressions? What's the best way to see when they will be "triggered"... by transit and/or a Lunar Return chart?

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I would look to transiting mars, I call it the *ignition key* to activate slower transits, but prog moon is 'the quickest' moving and only last approx 3months.

Progressed Sun conjunct Neptune" A drifting and perhaps moody period enables you to get in touch with your dream world and pull some things up from your depths that had been waiting for a daylight audition. It's a good time for making promises that can be put off, and a bad time for writing down your personal direction in stone. Let things gel and crystallize, before you sign."
http://cafeastrology.com/progressedplanetsaspects.html

Thank you Astrologer50! I appreciate your feedback.

I have been working from home doing occasional translations which is the only recent employment I've had - so there is the work at home aspect coming into play. I've looked into expanding those opportunities but so far it's been a no-go. I'm really more interested in the possibilities on the job front since making money is a priority right now. Romance is on the back-burner as it has been for some time. I am aware that Neptune is the ruler of my natal 7th House so something may get activated...we'll see. For now I'm focusing on job prospects.

I will keep an eye on transiting mars to *ignite* something and hope for the best.

Thanks again!

Ivy, i will have this progressions too next year: progressed sun conjunct jupiter and IC, and progressed asc conjunct natal moon.
It would mean a lot to me if you could be so kind to let me know how you experienced this.
Thanks darling

Joss nichols said:

Ivy,
i will have this progressions too next year:
progressed sun conjunct jupiter and IC,
and progressed asc conjunct natal moon.
It would mean a lot to me
if you could be so kind to let me know how you experienced this.
Thanks darling

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fact is your response is to a comment

Ivy posted nine years ago


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Joss nichols said:

Ivy, i will have this progressions too next year: progressed sun conjunct jupiter and IC, and progressed asc conjunct natal moon.
It would mean a lot to me if you could be so kind to let me know how you experienced this.
Thanks darling

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07-25-2010, 09:23 PM
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Looking at Progressions
A lot of people seem to have problems understanding progressions. The progressed Planets are nothing more than very very slow moving transits. Progressions are very internal in nature, meaning they're more likely to affect you mentally than physically. That doesn't mean progressions don't affect you physically, they can, for example a Planet progressing into the 6th House or the 6th House Ruler progressing into the 8th or 12th House or into certain aspects with the rulers of the 6th, 8th or 12th Houses can signify an illness.

Progressions are something you do maybe once in your life, and one of the best ways to do that is to write them down. You can use a spread sheet (like I use) or a word processor or write them on a legal pad, or you can use construction paper and crayons, it doesn't really matter. Other than that, all you need is a list of your Planets and the Ascendant and MC, and an ephemeris, which you should buy, but you can also find them online.

An ephemeris will look something like this:

Date............Sun....... Moon..... Mercury...Venus
May 26 1962 04°Ge28' 26°Aq47' 20°Ge23' 03°Cn43'
May 27 1962 05°Ge25' 10°Pi51' 20°Ge22' R 04°Cn55'
May 28 1962 06°Ge23' 25°Pi05' 20°Ge16' 06°Cn07'
May 29 1962 07°Ge21' 09°Ar25' 20°Ge05' 07°Cn19'

The symbolism is "day-for-a-year" so each day after your birthday is one year of your life.

Generally, you want to look at 120 days, which is 120 years of your life. Yes, I know you're not going to live 120 years, but none of you are special. When you die, the Solar System does not grind to a halt; it continues moving. Your chart lives on, even after you die.

There are somethings you might want to know about. Is your Will contested? Does your Estate end up in Probate Court? Does the government seize your Estate? Do your children fight over it? Does your spouse remarry? Maybe you want to comeback and haunt your spouse (or protect your spouse). Do your children marry, divorce, have more children, do your grandchildren marry etc.


Will you receive any awards or accolades, or publish a book? No kidding, a guy in Australia found his grandfather's diary of life in the trenches during World War I. He published it. Guess what? It showed up in the progressions of the grandfather's natal chart.

Here's a snippet from my progressions (sorry the formatting is less than desirable):

Natal .. Position.. Action.. Age.. Date .. ..........Location .. Contact
Venus.. 04°Cn39' Sign .....19 ....Jun 13 1962... 25°Cn14'.. 9th House
Saturn .11°Aq22' Square ..19 ... Jun 13 1962 ...11°Ta17'.. Mars
Neptune 11°Sc29' Opp .....19.... Jun 13 1962 ... 11°Ta17' Mars
Mars 28°Ar29' ...Square ...22 ....Jun 16 1962 .... 28°Cn47' Venus
Uranus 28°Le37' Qu .........22 ....Jun 16 1962..... 28°Cn47' Venus
Venus 04°Cn39' Sign .......23 .....Jun 17 1962..... 29°Cn58' Leo
Mercury 20°Ge22' D ........26...... Jun 20 1962 .....11°Ge52' D Mercury
Mars 28°Ar29' Sextile ......26 ......Jun 20 1962 .....28°Ge23' Sun
Uranus 28°Le37' Sextile ....26 ..... Jun 20 1962 .... 28°Ge23' Sun
Venus 04°Cn39' SSx........ 27 ......Jun 21 1962...... 04°Le41' Venus
Sun 05°Ge13' Con........... 28 ...... Jun 22 1962 .... 05°Le52' Venus
Sun 05°Ge13' Sign ..........28 ....... Jun 22 1962..... 00°Cn18' Sign
Jupiter 10°Pi38' SSx ........28....... Jun 22 1962...... 10°Aq38' Saturn
Moon 07°Pi41' Qu ..........29....... Jun 23 1962 ...... 07°Le03' Venus
Pluto 07°Vi32' Con ........29 ...... Jun 23 1962....... 07°Le03' Venus
MC 01°Vi31' Sextile...... 29 ........Jun 23 1962....... 01°Cn15' Sun

All I've done is write out the year in which there is some contact with progressed Planets.

At age 19, my natal Venus progressed to conjunct the 9th House Cusp at 25° Cancer.

How do you interpret that?

The 9th House Cusp is Cancer ruled by my Moon in my natal 4th House. What is the 9th House? Among things, it's long journeys. 4th House is the home.

I left the United States and didn't return for about 10 years.

See? It ain't so hard.

At age 23 my Venus progressed into the Sign of Leo. I got married. Because Venus progressed into Leo? Not entirely. My natal Mercury was Stationary in the natal 7th House, then it went Retrograde and then it went direct at age 26. In reality, I was actually 25 1/2 years old when Mercury went Direct in my 7th House of Relationships.

That is one of the advantages of writing out your progressions. When you see something like that, natal Venus progressed into the 9th House then into the Sign of Leo while Mercury goes Direct, you want to actually do a chart for that time period and then also look at the transits so you can get a sense of the timing (in this case transiting Moon conjunct Ascendant).

When I was 28, natal Sun changed Signs and entered Cancer. Did I become a Cancer? No, but I did take on some of the traits of Cancer. I became more sensitive, very emotional and extremely traditional, plus I took on a few of the negative characteristics, like brooding and being way too cautious, but then I was suffering from PTSD and the effects were starting to manifest themselves in a serious way.

When my Ascendant progressed into Sagittarius, I did not become a Sagittarius, but I did take on a few traits, like being really straightforward, to the point of being very blunt, and also broadminded and quite the procrastinator.

Natal .... Position .. Action ....Age... Date ............ Location .. Contact
Asc...... 20°Sc43' ..Sextile ....90 .... Aug 23 1962 ...20°Vi41' ... Mercury
Sun..... 05°Ge13' .. Sign .......91 .... Aug 24 1962... 00°Vi33' ....Virgo
MC ......01°Vi31' ....Sextile.... 91 .... Aug 24 1962 .. 01°Cn06'... Mars
Sun.... 05°Ge13'.... House .... 92..... Aug 25 1962 .. 01°Vi31' ...10th House
MC ......01°Vi31'..... Con .......92 .... Aug 25 1962... 01°Vi31' ... Sun

There's where I exit stage left. Not because of those particular progressions, mind you, but because of that and other things going on with transits and the Anareta wants to Tango.

The other benefit to writing out your progressions is that if you don't know the houses, signs, elements and natures (and that would be about 80% of you), then you will when you're done. The elements trine, the natures oppose and square, sextiles are always Fire/Air or Earth/Water etc.

I recommend using some of the minor aspects, like the quincunx, semi-sextile and semi-square.

Often in your life you might notice periods where your relationship with your children, spouse, parents, friends, co-workers or supervisors is a little testy and irritating. I guarantee you'll always find a semi-sextile or semi-square there. And the advantage of knowing that in advance is that you can take a "time-out," give yourself a "yellow card," take a different approach or do other things to make your life and everyone else's more pleasant.

Aspect orbs for progressions are 30' to 1° maximum. In addition to aspects, Planets changing Signs, Houses or going Direct or Retrograde are very important to note. For Planets that go Direct or Retrograde, flip ahead in the ephemeris and look to see if any transiting Planets are conjunct that point, because it will be emphasized. The same is true if a progressed Planet goes Direct or Retrograde at the pre-natal eclipses or the last Moon before birth (which will either be a Full Moon or a New Moon).

What if a progressed Planet goes Direct or Retrograde at the same point where there is a transiting Eclipse or New/Full Moon for that month? I don't know, but note it and look at it in detail later. You can ignore Lunar Eclipses after 3 months, but for Solar Eclipses it'll depend on the nature of the Sign (ie 3 months for Cardinal, 6 months for Mutable and 12 months for Fixed).

After you make your list or table, look at past events and see if you can make sense of them. As I said, not everything will manifest itself in a way that you can physically see. Once you get a feel for past events, you can start looking at future events.
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