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Unread 03-22-2018, 01:26 PM
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Saturn Return in Saggitarius?

Hello guys!
Maybe somone can help me with understanding this

My Saturn is in 10th house in Saggitarius, I have always knew what I wanted to do in life and where I wanted to be. I put a lot of effort to make my dreams come true and at 24 I moved to another country to get higher education and it felt like all my wildest dreams were becoming real

But for some reason starting from 2014 I got stuck in life, feels like every door is closed even tho I try my best to succeed. I’m torn between two countries, can’t properly settle in the one I want to live and hate the one I’m in right now. I have had many great things happen during this time, but nothing seems to be permanent and my progress is so slow, I feel like I’m making one step forward and two back. I have had crazy opportunities and I would go for them but in the end they won’t last.

I just turned 30 and I am nowhere near where I want to be, despite technically/professionally I have great prospects.

What is wrong with my chart? I read that Saturn rewards people that work hard and are patient, I feel like iv been tested for patience for so long, Iv been through so much frustration and hard work. Saturn left Saggitarius in December 2017 and literally nothing happened for me. My brother who has Saturn in Saggitarius as well (but first degrees of it) just moved to the place he wanted to and has great career prospects.

Is it Saturn conjuct Uranus?

Is it because I have my sun in 12th house? I feel like I’m in jail and isolation because I am so far away from my friends and places I want to be.

Is it because my Saturn is in last degrees of Saggitarius and with it being retrograde till September it wont get far away from my natal Saturn enough till then?

When will my life start properly?
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Unread 03-22-2018, 01:43 PM
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Re: Saturn Return in Saggitarius?

adding transits and progressed chart
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Unread 03-26-2018, 02:17 PM
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Re: Saturn Return in Saggitarius?

anyone?
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Unread 03-28-2018, 03:11 PM
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Re: Saturn Return in Saggitarius?

Aquarius ascendant is always nice. But you need to post your birth-wheel with birth-time, so We can analyze it better. (In private)
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Unread 03-29-2018, 12:34 AM
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Re: Saturn Return in Saggitarius?

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Aquarius ascendant is always nice. But you need to post your birth-wheel with birth-time, so We can analyze it better. (In private)
Hello Gemini! Thank you,
My birth time 8:10 am 10 February 1988 and the coordinates/time zone GMT+2
I hope it's what you meant.

Its a bit confusing because different sites give slightly different charts. The one I have printed out and been using to study myself doesn't have as many squares as the astro one I posted! For example my Sun doesn't have any squares to other planets, and my Venus is only square Saturn and Uranus - that I feel is more accurate

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Unread 03-30-2018, 09:23 PM
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Re: Saturn Return in Saggitarius?

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Unread 03-31-2018, 09:44 AM
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Re: Saturn Return in Saggitarius?

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I have had many great things happen during this time, but nothing seems to be permanent and my progress is so slow, I feel like Iím making one step forward and two back. I have had crazy opportunities and I would go for them but in the end they wonít last.

The answer to the issue may lie in your above attitude. You are seeking permanence in the opportunities that come your way, yet how do you know that won't happen if you do not give them a try?

Ever heard the joke about the man sitting on his roof in a time of flood, waiting to be rescued. and refused help from a friend, boat, and helicopter that came along, saying 'God will provide'. When faced with his maker and asked why he was not rescued, the Almighty replied, 'I sent you a friend, a boat, and a helicopter. What more did you want?'

The same can be said for opportunities. They may come in the small packages offering advantages that, at first glance, might not seem worth taking, yet come to fruition later. E.g. a market stall can be the forerunner of a conglomerate enterprise.

Your chart lacks the Earth temperament; that which provides reliability upon and in material substance given by/taken from others. In the flexible business society of today, job permancency is no longer a fact of life. If you rely solely on that, you will continue to be disappointed in your endeavours. Yet the same 'lack' of faith in outer substance turned inward toward yourself, positively provides the gift of having faith in your abilities to succeed. Standing on your own two feet, and giving those abilities a structure YOU made possible can make something substantial from them.

You have a well aspected Jupiter, ruler of Sagittarius, in the first house. Do you believe in yourself?
Transit Uranus, the bringer of re-form through change has been long aspecting that side of you. Maybe the time has arrived to be less rigid and more open to those sudden possbilities and opportunities that present themselves, even if they do appear to come in the form of a friend, boat or a helicopter.
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Unread 03-31-2018, 05:05 PM
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Re: Saturn Return in Saggitarius?

Hello Frisiangal!
Thank you for looking at my chart

Regarding Jupiter and believing in yourself - I do! I always had this crazy ideas of what I want and can achieve that were not based in reality but because I believed in them and worked on them became true. I always keep pushing myself and need to grow, otherwise I feel like im wasting my life. The desire to grow and in the middle of events is eating me from inside when life gets quiet and theres no movement.

Regarding "friend, boat or a helicopter" - that is exactly what iv been doing, I would go after every opportunity I can, I would risk, I would think quick and take it e.t.c

The problem here is that since 2014 I feel like iv been put in jail or isolation, no matter what I do I don't move forward. There no opportunities coming that I could take, I feel like I exhausted them all and feel like I wasted my energy and theres nothing thats going to change

Theres a thing I noticed tho, in my life there were loads of super weird deus ex machine/ synchonocities that would move my life forward and open all the doors for me all of a sudden out of nowhere, I can work and work and work and look for ways of moving forward - but nothing will happen, it would give no result. But all of sudden some bizarre synchronicity happens and life changes dramatically.
I read it has to do with North Node in Pieces and South Node in Virgo - that no matter how much you try to move forward your career it will only progress from these deus ex machine moments.

I am a bit suspicious of my sun in 12th house - is it going to cause this isolation feeling and put me in these situations of restrictions forever?

Or is it just a rough patch of Saturn return that iv been experiencing?
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Re: Saturn Return in Saggitarius?

Hi again,
With so much fire in the chart, waiting and doing nothing one's self (rather than waiting for something to happen!) can be hard. It may not be the fault of Saturn within you that does not yet appear to have the incentive to develop patience, but rather the effect of the obsessional and compulsive character of Moon-Pluto in its own sign.
Moon is within square orb to the 12th house Sun that is, itself, conjunct Mercury. You might consider asking yourself WHAT the 'background' reason is WHY you are so driven in the way you are.

The chart offers so much positive in opportunity for advancement. Could it be that the self-made man' of Sagittarius ruled 'riches' is seeking that which brings and increases personal wealth only? Sufficient is not enough (Virgo influence). Maybe there is 'more' to be found in life than the vision you have of it?

There is a lot of activity going on in the secondary progressed chart for this year.
S.p. Sun is squaring natal Mars, which could be dashing the hopes you have had. Energy may be lower than usual as you see all you have worked towards going down the proverbial drain.
Is S.p. Venus conjunct s.p. Asc. in the 2nd house bringing some kind of financial difficulty, or do you think you are not being appreciated and being paid what you are worth?
S.P. Mercury is returning to its natal position. Are you considering any kind of change? of direction
S.p. Mars sextiles Moon-Pluto through the 11th house. Early next year tr. Saturn will conjoin it. Are you in a position to become self-employed? Are friendships (or lack of them) playing any part?

S.p. Moon is moving through the 10th house. The next 18 months (till separating from natal Neptune) could see circumstances changing in regards to work (Moon rules Placidus 6th house) that could tie in with health patterns if you tend to overstretch.

Tr. Jupiter will move into its own sign and natural house towards year's end, after having retrograded over natal Moon-Pluto, influencing the natal Sun-Mercury. Foreign influences bringing opportunities and insight?

Hopefully everything will work together in unison and coincide with a time when those visions and dreams begin to bear fruit.

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Unread 04-03-2018, 02:28 AM
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Re: Saturn Return in Saggitarius?

Thank you Frisiangal!

I always felt the Moon-Pluto 8-house Scorpio as one of the main influences on my character. I am an artist so it helps me well in my work, but it also puts me into weird/fantastic situations in life. I feel like I am junkie for intense energy, also I realised I trigger transformation in everyone I get close to (lovers,friends) Can read people and situations like a scanner, have great intuition that helps me navigate the intensity, critical situations, trauma, mental underworld e.t.c
People usually come to me for advice or to help them deal with their transformations - but I can't seem to work my own life out atm.

I am driven because I come from a dysfunctional background that made me realise that no-one will help me and I need to work for everything by myself.

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The chart offers so much positive in opportunity for advancement. Could it be that the self-made man' of Sagittarius ruled 'riches' is seeking that which brings and increases personal wealth only? Sufficient is not enough (Virgo influence). Maybe there is 'more' to be found in life than the vision you have of it?
Im not sure I understood this well - I have really ambitious and out there ideas of what I want to do in life, where I want to be and what I want to achieve, and they are not that much material. They are all to do with huge creative projects and moving abroad where I can make them real e.t.c Tho I am not entirely "out there" in the clouds about my dreams, I am quite good at down to earth stuff like money and hard work as well.


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There is a lot of activity going on in the secondary progressed chart for this year.
S.p. Sun is squaring natal Mars, which could be dashing the hopes you have had. Energy may be lower than usual as you see all you have worked towards going down the proverbial drain.
Is S.p. Venus conjunct s.p. Asc. in the 2nd house bringing some kind of financial difficulty, or do you think you are not being appreciated and being paid what you are worth?
S.P. Mercury is returning to its natal position. Are you considering any kind of change? of direction
S.p. Mars sextiles Moon-Pluto through the 11th house. Early next year tr. Saturn will conjoin it. Are you in a position to become self-employed? Are friendships (or lack of them) playing any part?
It makes sense but more so because I am currently in most of these situations.
In short - I am self employed artist, I am currently stuck in my hometown due to a dead-end(how I see it) situation with visas. Despite this I get paid great money and work with loads of big clients - All my clients are from abroad, so are all my friends and lovers.I am basically currently isolated from the life I want/had/connected to, what I see as my "real" life, the place where I fit.
I have zero connection to my hometown where I am right now - no friends, interests, work, perspectives. I feel like a foreigner here so I just mainly stay in and work.
Im not happy with the situation because I would love to get employed by some company abroad and get visa through work and just come back to my normal life there. I am a great specialist, ambitious, talented, theres so many things I can do and want to learn as well, I am very career-driven - but its like right people dont see me.
I have had few interviews last year but for some reason nothing works out - it's just hard to get visa even tho these companies seem to want to hire me and are super interested. I am currently stuck and wondering if I can get out of this deadend.

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Tr. Jupiter will move into its own sign and natural house towards year's end, after having retrograded over natal Moon-Pluto, influencing the natal Sun-Mercury. Foreign influences bringing opportunities and insight?
The Foreign influence can be literally anything as my whole life is abroad. I am hopeful Jupiter in his own sign will move things forward for me tho and I will find some new doors opening - I just can't see them atm

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Hopefully everything will work together in unison and coincide with a time when those visions and dreams begin to bear fruit.
Thank you again, its very kind of you to take time and look at my chart!

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Unread 04-11-2018, 02:21 PM
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Re: Saturn Return in Saggitarius?

Though I might bump this up and attach the equal system - maybe it would be easier for someone to take a look

Thanx!
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