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Unread 12-02-2011, 05:12 AM
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Will we go out?

Yesterday evening,after a long time I met a person I got along with really well.I'm probably infatuated with him for some reason.He's not even the usual kind of person I would go for,but he's a lot like me in many ways.I wasn't assertive enough as usual and didn't pay much attention as I didn't want to seem too keen.I had a friend with me who was very pushy with him,but he did give in the end.

Later on,we talked and I realized that I did like him a lot.I know hanging out with a person for 7 hours for the very first time won't determine anything,but soon I will be working with him as well and I'm meeting him through mutual friends very soon.

I'd appreciate it,if a brief look can be given to my chart.

I can see the grand trine,which does look good,but as I'm a beginner to horary,I can't make a lot out of it.

I'd appreciate your help!
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Unread 12-02-2011, 06:30 AM
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Re: Will we go out?

(Following is not in accordance with standard horary practice and uses whole sign house format)

-querent = 1st house = Scorpio = Mars
-quesited = 7th house = Taurus = Venus
-Venus flows away from Mars = - testimony
-Venus is applying in trine to Mars = strong + testimony
-querent's cosignificator Moon is in partile sextile to Venus (+) but flows away from Venus (-) = net neutral testimony
-querent's significator Mars is posited in quesited's 5th house (house of romance) which = + testimony

Results:
Positive = +2 testimonies
Negative = -1 testimony
Net = +1 testimony

...with a net +1, indications are MILDLY favorable for a "yes" answer to this question (that is, a mild yes you will go out answer) Since querent's significator Mars is elevated above quesited's (Venus), the querent has the "power" in this question-so, in my opinion, you will go out with him if you make it "happen"...
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Unread 12-02-2011, 10:37 AM
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Re: Will we go out?

Thank you Dr Farr! It does seem like I might have to make the first move this time,which is frightening as he's older than me by a few years and seems more mature as well.I came across that he's a Cancer sun as well,which I kind of did guess when I met him as he was very shy at first.

Hopefully he will feel the same way about me,but I might be asking for a lot Thank you anyway!
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Unread 12-02-2011, 07:23 PM
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Re: Will we go out?

I want to chime in here, just to mention a few things in the chart.

You are signified by Mars. He is Venus. Unfortunately, Venus and Mars cannot trine because the Sun inteferes with a square aspect to Mars. You mentioned working with this person and it is interesting that the Sun rules the 10th of career, work etc.

Also, the Moon is passing Venus, leaving it behind and, about to oppose Mars, and square the Sun which are not very facilitating aspects.

To me it appears there is a lot of interference to this relationship hinged on work or due to work or socal standing.

I think this other person is very work-oriented and concerned about their standing and how they appear and what they can attain/what will aid attainment. A very 'gain' oriented person and very serious about all they do.

You might do well meeting a nice Jupitarian person instead when the time comes.

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Unread 12-03-2011, 03:38 AM
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I want to chime in here, just to mention a few things in the chart.

You are signified by Mars. He is Venus. Unfortunately, Venus and Mars cannot trine because the Sun inteferes with a square aspect to Mars. You mentioned working with this person and it is interesting that the Sun rules the 10th of career, work etc.

Also, the Moon is passing Venus, leaving it behind and, about to oppose Mars, and square the Sun which are not very facilitating aspects.

To me it appears there is a lot of interference to this relationship hinged on work or due to work or socal standing.

I think this other person is very work-oriented and concerned about their standing and how they appear and what they can attain/what will aid attainment. A very 'gain' oriented person and very serious about all they do.

You might do well meeting a nice Jupitarian person instead when the time comes.

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Actually,there is a lot of interference to this relationship.It sounds juvenile,but it's another girl who I brought along with me,who was very pushy throughout the entire night,which did get his attention.It also does help that she's very attractive ( much more than me anyway).

He's very work orientated and is working in academia very soon.He's also very ambitious.

I guess I just thought it'd be nice to be with someone like him.I'm still not sure why,but I felt like he was like me in so many different ways.It is probably my very low self esteem,but I've been feeling less worthy these days.
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Unread 12-03-2011, 05:07 AM
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Re: Will we go out?

The condition of Mars in this chart signifies you: the Sun square Mars, which is within 12 minutes of perfection, accounts for the feelings of lack of self worth right now; next the Moon will oppose Mars (actually this is within orb of application right now)-this accounts for self-conflicted emotional feelings, at this time. But the following aspect will be Venus trine Mars-that's coming up soon. This means that positive influences/feelings involving love are coming into play-now, since Venus signifies HIM in this chart, this MIGHT indicate an upcoming favorable situation in regard to you and him, but it definitely indicates a more favorable situation for you, regarding things like love, friendships, sympathy, and so on...
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The condition of Mars in this chart signifies you: the Sun square Mars, which is within 12 minutes of perfection, accounts for the feelings of lack of self worth right now; next the Moon will oppose Mars (actually this is within orb of application right now)-this accounts for self-conflicted emotional feelings, at this time. But the following aspect will be Venus trine Mars-that's coming up soon. This means that positive influences/feelings involving love are coming into play-now, since Venus signifies HIM in this chart, this MIGHT indicate an upcoming favorable situation in regard to you and him, but it definitely indicates a more favorable situation for you, regarding things like love, friendships, sympathy, and so on...
Thank you! I've been so insecure and having so many rough days.

Hopefully things will turn better.He's been on my mind even today,but then I don't think he'll ever reciprocate.

Thank you for the reading!!!
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Just see what develops as the Cosmic picture changes over the next few weeks!
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Re: Will we go out?

Hopefully it will work! I highly doubt he feels the same way about me,which is the most bitter feeling ever But I guess we've all been there.
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Unread 12-04-2011, 01:03 AM
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Re: Will we go out?

Well, regardless of what is going on...perhaps this person mirrors something you aspire to be.

I believe sometimes people come into our sphere of influence because they are catalysts. They might not necessarily stick around or be "ours" to hold or keep but, they remind us who we are or what dreams we used to have. They sort of put us back on track with our self.

I don't think you have low self-esteem. Perhaps you are in a period of reinvention but I think you are just fine. Your worth comes from within, not exterior illusions. You already know this.

I wish you the best.
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Unread 12-04-2011, 05:45 AM
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Well, regardless of what is going on...perhaps this person mirrors something you aspire to be.

I believe sometimes people come into our sphere of influence because they are catalysts. They might not necessarily stick around or be "ours" to hold or keep but, they remind us who we are or what dreams we used to have. They sort of put us back on track with our self.

I don't think you have low self-esteem. Perhaps you are in a period of reinvention but I think you are just fine. Your worth comes from within, not exterior illusions. You already know this.

I wish you the best.


TBH,He isn't someone I want to be,perhaps right now,someone I'd like to be with.

I've always had low self esteem as a very young kid.Me questioning my self worth was one of the main reason why I was diagnozed with clinical depression.

Right now I'm not depressed,but I'm certainly not happy with what I am.
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Unread 12-04-2011, 07:13 PM
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Re: Will we go out?

Funny how Dr Farr said I'll have to 'initiate and make the first move'; my venus and his mars are in the same sign ( aries ).I'm not sure if this does indicate a conjunct or not though
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Re: Will we go out?

I just thought I'd update after quite a while.The guy mentioned in this post has contacted me after quite some time,but I'm not sure what really to think of it.

I'm the venus,he's the mars.
Venus and mars make an aspect,but I'm moving towards him.
My co-significator has been rejected by his mars.
I'd like to know what does itmean when his sign trines the ascendant and the moon (signified by me) is in h7 and true node is in H7.

It doesn't look too good,as in this chart it's just me doing the work.
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I just thought I'd update after quite a while.The guy mentioned in this post has contacted me after quite some time,but I'm not sure what really to think of it.
Well, then, there is your answer: When in doubt, don't.

As for the horary, though, he is signfied by Mars, as you said. The Moon is about to square Mars which, is difficult and there is no reception there to facilitate the matter much.

You, Venus are about to trine Saturn which, is in the 6th ruling the 9th, 10th and 11th. To me, this is more a work/career and scholastic potential aspect rather than romantic. So, I'd stay on a course of career/school rather than romance, at least in this matter, for now.

Sun and Jupiter in your own ASC make you quite attractive but, the main significators I would like to see meeting, are not. Even the co-significators really aren't in great rapport.

So, in short, you could meet him...sure, of course but, I don't think it worth your time, right now at this point iny our life. I have seen WAY better contacts for romance and goodness than this chart is offering, right now.

I'd stand back and observe that person, you might be surprized by what you find out.
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hi anachiel

thank you ! You told me to observe him..what about it though? x
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Forget that friend of yours. He's as attracted to you as you're to him.
But I doubt if you two will end up dating. The sun & the moon don't seem to be doing any good. Too much of interference. The ascendant in via combusta doesn't help matters either.

I've a doubt! The Sun & the moon are secondary significators & in this chart are about to square. Let's assume that they were about to trine or sextile. Would that give a yes then?
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Thank you so much scorpittarian!!!

Yes,we won't date for sure.He's leaving the country sometime in June and there's no chance I'll ever see him after that.Why would you say he's attracted to me though? I created a chart once again.A mutual friend of mine said something about him,which made me sound he was very interested but for the wrong reasons (sexual).I'm honestly not interested in it,since it won't turn into anything serious at all.I' casted a chart once again asking about if it will ever happen,and the only thing I can see is that,his co significators (mars,sun) is trining my 1st house once again.And me rejecting him (Moon opp venus in the new chart where he is moon and I'm venus).I wouldn't do it just because my morals as there's no way it'll go anywhere.
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Re: Will we go out?

hey Summer

if you do it will be a couple of dates or so. I dont see long term here at all!

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thank you tikana!! yeah he's leaving in quite some time
it took me so long to forget about him and now he's back on the scene when he has to leave the country

do u see him attracted to me? it's always been a push-pull between us.I'd have to rephrase the question as well right now as I don't really want to date him.It would be more like if there's any kind of valid attraction between us (for the second chart) and if we would ever hook up.
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From him to you yes
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Venus is in Capricorn, the sign where mars(you) is exalted. It's also the slower planet & is chasing Mars(you) but the Sun & Moon get to you before he can. He is certainly attracted to you.
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thank you tikana! the only reason i'd say no is because i'm way too inexperienced and scared to move anything forward as well.He's extremely intimidating and even though when I met him( and i still do right now) i feel like he's possibly the only person of potential i've met in my university.
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Venus is in Capricorn, the sign where mars(you) is exalted. It's also the slower planet & is chasing Mars(you) but the Sun & Moon get to you before he can. He is certainly attracted to you.
hello! oh wow i'm talking about the second chart now =) it's weird..that night my friend was there with me and i felt like he gave her a lot of attention.She sensed it because it was of jealousy and I always felt like he was never interested in me at all.It's May now
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I haven't looked at the first chart, but the second one shows he definitely has strong pull towards you. Sun (his animal side) is in your 1st and in sign ruled by Venus, so he is physically attracted to you, but Mars (his thinking part) is in fall of Venus. So I think he wouldn't mind having sexual relations with you, but he is not interested in longterm for now.

Mars and Venus peregrine, Moon as well peregrine squaring Mars - looks too much work for both of you to do anything and not enough motivation/strength. Looks like both of you waiting for the other to do something. Moon/Mars square does show some upcoming tension - start to something, but Moon is too weak right now.

Venus (you) is also about to go Rx soon as well and will square Mars (I haven't look at ephermeris). So with what you've told us, if he is leaving that may be the reason things don't really develop into something that you can call a real relationship...you may have short romance if you willing to give this a chance, but it seems with Venus soon to go Rx you will just change your mind anytime....
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I haven't looked at the first chart, but the second one shows he definitely has strong pull towards you. Sun (his animal side) is in your 1st and in sign ruled by Venus, so he is physically attracted to you, but Mars (his thinking part) is in fall of Venus. So I think he wouldn't mind having sexual relations with you, but he is not interested in longterm for now.

Mars and Venus peregrine, Moon as well peregrine squaring Mars - looks too much work for both of you to do anything and not enough motivation/strength. Looks like both of you waiting for the other to do something. Moon/Mars square does show some upcoming tension - start to something, but Moon is too weak right now.

Venus (you) is also about to go Rx soon as well and will square Mars (I haven't look at ephermeris). So with what you've told us, if he is leaving that may be the reason things don't really develop into something that you can call a real relationship...you may have short romance if you willing to give this a chance, but it seems with Venus soon to go Rx you will just change your mind anytime....
Wow Rafaella! I actually sense that we're both waiting for eachother to make the first move.The second time I met him,I decided to ignore him until he made the first move.He didn't blank me completely,but was apparently standing behind me the entire night .It was bad of me to do something like that (just ignore a person),but I've never made the first move in my life.We were extremely cold to eachother that night,but a friend who was present that day sensed that we were into eachother even though he hardly spoke.It felt very Plutonian and honestly the only reason I blanked him off so far is because his coldness made me feel like he was repulsed of me.I can see he notices me,but that's all.He awkwardly tries to make conversation on facebook,but I don't give too much attention as I feel like he's way too much to handle.If he was simpler I would have definitely tried to make clear that I thought he was very attractive.

I'm changing my mind quite often,but if he makes an extra effort and actually does make it clear that he's attracted,I wouldn't mind pursuing him (his suns in cancer,and my moon's in cancer as well.His Sun is on my Descendant at 1 degree)
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