Omnisphericus
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I've decided to open another thread where I can present the Hellenistic Method of delineating marriage.
I feel the need to have a separate section where the methods of Dorotheus, Valens and etc, will be presented.
I will start with Dorotheus and then with Valens. As in other threads, I will try to give practical examples on the matter.
Dototheus in his second book 'Carmen Astrologicum' advices us to look the following when delineating marriage.
So, Dorotheus is telling us to look at the Lords of Triplicity of Venus, if they are in the same sign with Venus or in Trine with it then this is good indication.
Also, if they are in angular or succedent Signs this is also good indication.
If they are in succedent houses, it is good if they are direct in motion and their light is not corrupted from the Sun's beams.
But if you find the lords of triplicity of Venus in a bad sign (presumably 6, 8 and 12?!) or cadent, near the West or USB, then this is a bad indicator.
Here's the chart of the Emperor of Japan Akihito.
I have in my computer a folder named "Happy Marriages". I suppose I picked up his chart from astrodatabank under the same category of happy marriages.
How much happy really the marriage is, only he and his spouse knows that. But the fact is that in the publicity they leave their impression as a happy couple.
We can see that Venus is in Aquarius.
Triplicity Lords are:
Mercury/Saturn/Jupiter.
Look the Whole Signs even though the chart is calculated in Alcabitius.
Venus falls in cadent sign but look all the Lords of Triplicity.
Mercury is in the 1st sign. Saturn is WITH Venus and Jupiter is on MC.
Two of them are Cardine and one is with Venus.
Dorotheus was right!
Lets now look at the chart of his wife: Princess Michiko.
We find Venus in 12th in Libra.
But look at its Lords:
Saturn in 4th/ Mercury on AC, Jupiter in 1st sign.
Well, Jupiter and Venus are combust or at least USB (Though Jupiter in another sign, but yet..).
Again Dorotheuses testimony is right.
Lets now look at a chart of a person who never get married.
This is the chart of the Oprah Whinfrey's lover. They never get married.
We can see that Venus is in the 6th sign (bad place).
Jupiter is in 5th but under the Sun's beams.
Sun is in 5th.
Saturn is in 12th and Retrograde.
Not so good placements as the previous two?!
With 3 examples only Dorotheus is right on the spot!
We will discuss more in the following posts.
I feel the need to have a separate section where the methods of Dorotheus, Valens and etc, will be presented.
I will start with Dorotheus and then with Valens. As in other threads, I will try to give practical examples on the matter.
Dototheus in his second book 'Carmen Astrologicum' advices us to look the following when delineating marriage.
"Look at Venus where it is, and which are the first, second and third lords of its triplicity as, if they are with Venus, or in a cardine or trine to it (Venus) than this is a good indication because Venus is full for the matter of marriage.
If you find the lords of the triplicity of Venus with it, or in the cardines or what follows after the cardines, rejoicing in their light and direct (in their) motion, all of this is a good indication in the matter of marriage so that the father of the child was happy. But if you find the lords of the triplicity of Venus in a bad place or a cadent, corrupted, or they are under the rays of the Sun or near the West, than predict differently from that about the badness of marriage because those who are born will be of those who will never marry or whose marriage is with slave girls or whores or old women who are disgraced or those young in years, or he is a leaser of whores; we have seen someone (in a nativity) like this who leased his wife, and he was disgraced in this. If you find the lords of the triplicity of Venus in a bad place, but Venus is with a benefic planet and (they are both) beneficial in one house then he will marry an agreeable wife. But when the lords of the triplicity of Venus come in between (Venus and the benefic), they indicate disaster and disgrace because of women and anxiety and grief because of them".
So, Dorotheus is telling us to look at the Lords of Triplicity of Venus, if they are in the same sign with Venus or in Trine with it then this is good indication.
Also, if they are in angular or succedent Signs this is also good indication.
If they are in succedent houses, it is good if they are direct in motion and their light is not corrupted from the Sun's beams.
But if you find the lords of triplicity of Venus in a bad sign (presumably 6, 8 and 12?!) or cadent, near the West or USB, then this is a bad indicator.
Here's the chart of the Emperor of Japan Akihito.
I have in my computer a folder named "Happy Marriages". I suppose I picked up his chart from astrodatabank under the same category of happy marriages.
How much happy really the marriage is, only he and his spouse knows that. But the fact is that in the publicity they leave their impression as a happy couple.
We can see that Venus is in Aquarius.
Triplicity Lords are:
Mercury/Saturn/Jupiter.
Look the Whole Signs even though the chart is calculated in Alcabitius.
Venus falls in cadent sign but look all the Lords of Triplicity.
Mercury is in the 1st sign. Saturn is WITH Venus and Jupiter is on MC.
Two of them are Cardine and one is with Venus.
Dorotheus was right!
Lets now look at the chart of his wife: Princess Michiko.
We find Venus in 12th in Libra.
But look at its Lords:
Saturn in 4th/ Mercury on AC, Jupiter in 1st sign.
Well, Jupiter and Venus are combust or at least USB (Though Jupiter in another sign, but yet..).
Again Dorotheuses testimony is right.
Lets now look at a chart of a person who never get married.
This is the chart of the Oprah Whinfrey's lover. They never get married.
We can see that Venus is in the 6th sign (bad place).
Jupiter is in 5th but under the Sun's beams.
Sun is in 5th.
Saturn is in 12th and Retrograde.
Not so good placements as the previous two?!
With 3 examples only Dorotheus is right on the spot!
We will discuss more in the following posts.
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