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Edgar Cayce Venus conjunct Saturn
John F Kennedy Junior Venus conjunct Saturn

Thomas Edison Venus conjunct Saturn

Christopher Columbus Venus conjunct Saturn
Lord Byron Venus conjunct Saturn


Florence Nightingale Venus square Sturn

Franklin D Roosevelt Venus square Saturn
Felipe VI of Spain Vemis sqiare Saturn

Marjorie Orr astrologer Venus square Saturn
Louis XIV of France Venus square Saturn


generalisation is fun, yet unreliable
and so on ad infinitum
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I agree, it was not my intention to generalize. I simply find it to be fascinating that Jeff and his buddies all have Venus-Saturn aspects and they seem to deal with it in the same way.
People with harsh Venus-Saturn aspects may have issues with their self worth, feel unlovable, feel as if they have to sell themselves in some way in order to gain money or work way too hard to deserve money. Some feel that they have to pay to get love or intimacy (like a sugardaddy). Everyone will experience and deal with their Venus-Saturn issues in different ways depending on what their entire chart looks like. I also believe that we have a free will and that we can choose to evolve and transform aspects.

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Interesting debates throughout this whole thread, but hopefully whilst considering what may or may not cause people to be bullied or to people to bully others there is empathy for anyone that is subject to this in any shape or form given that we are meant to be the higher species.
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this thread is eye opening in many ways. I have encountered some bullies and some of them are fully aware of their behavior and how it affects everyone around them and they use it to wield power. I have noticed chiron in 11th or 7th of those who are bullied a lot and it remains as an internal wound and becomes part of their personality. Some people stand up to their bullies or at least defend themselves and those usually have strong leo charts, or pluto saturn conjunction, or even venus somewhere in aspect to the ruler of chiron or saturn.
I have seen that venus works in a neutralizing manner in charts of those that are bullied and able to walk away from the bullying person. This is not to say they are not harmed by the bullying, they definitely are, but they manage to at least find an escape or a way to reduce the intensity of bullying. Venus is a very powerful planet when it comes to neutralizing any conflict with authority figures.
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Interesting debates throughout this whole thread,

but hopefully whilst considering what may
or may not cause people to be bullied or to people to bully others
there is empathy for anyone that is subject to this

in any shape or form

given that

we are

meant to be the higher species.
an interesting illustration of the topic

with example of social media doxing:
GOP Wayne County canvassers expose Democrat bully tactics
call for audit in Michigan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cdmz8JcTju4




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an interesting illustration of the topic

with example of social media doxing:
GOP Wayne County canvassers expose Democrat bully tactics
call for audit in Michigan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cdmz8JcTju4




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Trump literally FIRES anyone on his campaign staff who EVEN MENTIONS Biden's name! And, threatens or fires any Republicans who have publicly accepted the Election results as projected by the Media.

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Trump literally FIRES anyone on his campaign staff who EVEN MENTONS Biden's name! And, threatens or fires any Republicans who have publicly accepted the Election results

as projected by the Media.

The U.S. election fraud has now become the focus of the world
but the U.S. "...mainstream media..." is turning a blind eye to it
and not reporting it at all.
More sensational news won’t be covered
by the mainstream media.
Therefore, I am here to share it with you.

Inside story behind Michigan reversal exposed
Cash-for-Vote scheme used by Pro-Biden group

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1FwH9xHs0s

If Congress rejects the conclusion of the election
under the Twelfth Amendment of the United States Constitution
the House of Representatives would hold a “...contingent election...”
to select the president.
The Senate would also hold a contingent election
to select the vice president
this would be very favorable to Trump.


Regarding the election data, Brian Trascher of the Trump team
said on Wednesday in a interview with Newsmax
that they had recovered the raw data of the election
from Dominion servers seized in Frankfurt, Germany

...“The data that is going to come out will shake the globalists to their very core....." says Trascher.

He pointed out the problems
such as
why U.S. election servers are overseas
how ballots are changed from one candidate to another
and how a nationwide fraudulent system is operated.
He said that with this software
tens of thousands of ballots were automatically changed
and this information “...will...” be made public.




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In keeping with the theme of the OP, what would cause someone to be especially vulnerable to sexual bullying in the first place? The generally accepted answer is: Low self-esteem.

So, that's probably the case for all forms bullying. What in a Chart would cause one to have a sense of low self-esteem?

Maybe a weak, badly-Aspected H1?
Apologies but I thought I had responded to this but obviously didn't. What would be defined as sexual bullying?

In general bullying/harassment/mobbing etc how does the victim having a badly aspected H1 work if they have only been bullied at a particular time in their lives (not continually throughout life) and don't suffer from self esteem issues?

It is interesting to read throughout this thread from the very beginning where people have shared their experiences and it hasn't always been throughout life. I think it rarely is. I still believe transits are important in bullying for this reason.

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Re: Bullying

Are a few of these last responses better placed in mundane (if there is one) even though you are both relating to bullying in them?
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