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Well, you seem to think employment status has a huge impact on one's right to express an opinion. Heaven help those poor civil servants who must be forever silenced.

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right cuz public schools are the only places where teachers exist ahahahah

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Besides, that's an equivocation. Being an independent from a political party is different from thinking for yourself.
I do both, thanks.

I read your list of "virtues."
Ayn Rand??
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Well, you seem to think employment status has a huge impact on one's right to express an opinion. Heaven help those poor civil servants who must be forever silenced.

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I never said that.

I just said there is a diference between those who work for the private sector, and those who work for the government.

Those who work for the government, tend to have socialist views. They like they idea of a government providing them with a job - otherwise they wouldn't be able to make it on the private sector.

People who work on the private sector, don't have need for government. This is why we tend to have more libertarian views.
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Show me the data which proves this benefited the employee and the economy david.

You guys are just afraid of numbers it seems.
The numbers are in linked articles, Dirius.

Which you don't read.

Your arguments are mighty thin on the ground so far as references go.
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I do both, thanks.

I read your list of "virtues."
Ayn Rand??
no it's john smith
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Court system
Fire Department
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Traffic rules
Emergency Hospitals

All those have existed since before the first socialist republic.


In any case: data?
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and you put virtues in quotes

independence. isn't a virtue?
honesty isn't a virtue?

What even is virtue to you waybread? Lol do I even dare ask?
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So like waybread, you can't produce data to back-up your statements.
Dirius, I've given you tons of data. It's in linked articles. Many of them.

Which you refuse to read.

So don't come crying to us about a lack of data.
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I never said that.

I just said there is a diference between those who work for the private sector, and those who work for the government.

Those who work for the government, tend to have socialist views. They like they idea of a government providing them with a job - otherwise they wouldn't be able to make it on the private sector.

People who work on the private sector, don't have need for government. This is why we tend to have more libertarian views.
Unless you back this up with links and data-- in English, as this is an English language forum-- I will know that you're blowing smoke.
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and you put virtues in quotes

independence. isn't a virtue?
honesty isn't a virtue?

What even is virtue to you waybread? Lol do I even dare ask?
I follow the standard dictionary definition of virtue.
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Unless you back this up with links and data-- in English, as this is an English language forum-- I will know that you're blowing smoke.
Lol yeah you would also need links and data for why robbers hate locked doors
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Dirius, I've given you tons of data. It's in linked articles. Many of them.

Which you refuse to read.

So don't come crying to us about a lack of data.
No No No.

You posted a few links, to some articles some newspaper published.

Those aren't studies. Those are opinon pieces.

And most of them focus on one topic (the last one on "income inequality").

I gave you multiple variables for each country, from unemployment, to GDP, to wage growth, etc.

And everything I wrote came from me, not from someone else writting that down. I only linked the data which proves my point.

Thats the diference. I am writting from my knowledge.

You are just passing off some articles by someone else, which don't even come close to disproving what I said.
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All those have existed since before the first socialist republic.


In any case: data?
Where is your data to the contrary?
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Unless you back this up with links and data-- in English, as this is an English language forum-- I will know that you're blowing smoke.
Fine I will.

After you respond to my examples.
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Where is your data to the contrary?
He made the assertion, not me. He has to provide the evidence to back up his statement.
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No No No.

You posted a few links, to some articles some newspaper published.

Those aren't studies. Those are opinon pieces.

And most of them focus on one topic (the last one on "income inequality").

I gave you multiple variables for each country, from unemployment, to GDP, to wage growth, etc.

And everything I wrote came from me, not from someone else writting that down. I only linked the data which proves my point.

Thats the diference. I am writting from my knowledge.

You are just passing off some articles by someone else, which don't even come close to disproving what I said.
Well, you've got a lot of nerve, asking for the type and depth of information you won't (or cannot) even provide yourself. First you demand references, then you don't read them, then you are unable to distinguish between the facts and opinions in a given article.

I saw your variables for NZ and Ireland.That hardly scratched the surface of the issues they purported to describe. What was this from? Your honors thesis?

For Pete's sake, Dirius. This is a thread on Osamenor's auntie and Black Lives Matter.

Time to focus.
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Unless you back this up with links and data-- in English, as this is an English language forum-- I will know that you're blowing smoke.

Thats a hypothesis I mentioned to Leo.
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I follow the standard dictionary definition of virtue.
BAHAHAH
virtue just means moral behavior. in the dictionary. that doesn't answer anything. Goodness is highly dependent on the persons idea of goodness.

What is moral behavior waybread? What is a virtue? What is a vice? You actually have to think for this
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Time to focus.
the irony of you saying that
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So like waybread, you can't produce data to back-up your statements.
If someone says something that sounds incorrect, I keep an open mind. I research it from as many sources as possible. And, if it's proven correct, I admit it.

Are you saying you don't believe that New Zealand has a much-needed welfare system? My research, which included looking at graphs and charts regarding child-poverty in particular, is easily found on the internet, and says it does.

Btw, the sky is generally blue when it's not dark or gray. Although, it can appear red, orange, pink and/or yellow, as well as even purple or green, just above the horizon at dawn and dusk, depending on atmospheric conditions.. If this sounds incorrect, you can easily do the research as to whether it's true or not.

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you could provide an entire shipload of evidence and it won't be good enough for waybread
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Well, you've got a lot of nerve, asking for the type and depth of information you won't (or cannot) even provide yourself. First you demand references, then you don't read them, then you are unable to distinguish between the facts and opinions in a given article.

I saw your variables for NZ and Ireland.That hardly scratched the surface of the issues they purported to describe. What was this from? Your honors thesis?

For Pete's sake, Dirius. This is a thread on Osamenor's auntie and Black Lives Matter.

Time to focus.
Oh I see.

Well why don't you explain to us why it doesn't scratch the surface of the issue they purported to describe then?

No my honor thesis was on fiscal policy and inflation cycles related to debt applied to Argentina and Uruguay. I don't think you would understand much of it.
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If someone says something that sounds incorrect, I keep an open mind. I research it from as many sources as possible. And, if it's proven correct, I admit it.

Are you saying you don't believe that New Zealand has a much-needed welfare system? My research, which included looking at graphs and charts regarding child-poverty in particular, is easily found on the internet, and says it does.
Love how you assume that child poverty is a problem. What about all the other problems in the world?
Love how you assume welfare is the solution. What about charity? What about businesses providing jobs?

Not to mention poverty is a rather undefined term. Where is the line that distinguishes poverty and prosperity?
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Here's one you'll probably have research in order to attempt to prove it's incorrect:
In 1973, the Trumps, Donald included, were charged in court with housing discrimination based on race and ethnicity. They fought the charges for 2 years, spending $$$millions attempting to beat the rap.They lost.
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