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I drew a chart too - Will he be impeached?


Looks to be a yes - (sextile Mecury ruler of the 10th to the Moon - Interesting that both Venus (ruler of the 7th, (the others) is in the 11th with Rump.





Hmmm, that Moon is VOC. It is at 19'27 and has past Mercury, Venus, Jupiter, and Saturn.

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from Alex Miller Mignone - Asteroid Astrology (for those who follow them)



http://alexasteroidastrology.com/ast...ment-hearings/



Impeachment Begins

Things have started moving swiftly on Capitol Hill, now that the Ukraine dam has broken, and the resulting flood could wash away Trump and the swampy residents of his cabinet. On September 24, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced that impeachment inquiries have officially begun.

About **** time.

The Speaker is in a strong, not to say unassailable, position, with asteroid Nancy conjunct that cosmic enforcer, asteroid Nemesis, bringing ruin and downfall in its wake, while opposing Damocles, the doom hanging overhead, and Askalaphus, the whistleblower, in a t-square with Sedna, Vesta and asteroid Lie, signaling the isolation of a public servant who has deceived and betrayed the public trust. All of which overlays Trump's natal Angles.

With asteroid Troemper exactly conjunct Saturn, also conjoined Pluto and exactly opposed the US Sun, in a t-square with Mercury and America, the nation (America) is about to be treated to the calling to account and possible punishment (both Saturn) of its Chief Executive (also Saturn), based in a full disclosure of the facts (Mercury) regarding Donald Trump's corruption (Pluto).

With Whitehouse opposed Achilles, Trump's vulnerability is clear to see, and a pairing of Hybris with Icarus shows reckless arrogance to be the cause. Although asteroid Senator conjoins Whitehouse, perhaps giving Trump cover from removal from office via his Senate GOP allies, asteroid McConnell conjunct Nancy and Nemesis seems to be ranging itself for a possible turncoat moment.

Grab the popcorn, this is about to get good!
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Re: Donald Trump will be impeached.

Thanks Moondancing. Time for me to get out my notes as I do no do Horary that much anymore, so hope this can help us recall some caveats - (if indeed there are any?)




(see Lily’s rules below)
The strong significators are those of...
Taurus, Cancer, Sagittarius and Pisces... in those signs a VOC Moon is not much hindered and will perform much better, because Taurus, Cancer, Sagittarius and Pisces are all ruled by benefics. (i.e. Venus & Jupiter) ****


From notes I made years ago, can't recall where I read them now:


Lilly makes it perfectly clear that the only aspects to be considered are the traditional Ptolemaic aspects. The Conjunction, Sextile, Square, Trine and Opposition. The argument of whether a Moon is VOC centers on its application to the next planet. With the Moon, Lilly's rules allow for an applying orb of 12½ degrees, and a separating orb of 8½ degrees. The Sun and the Moon because of their over-riding importance in every horoscope are always given wider orbs because they exert such a dominant influence over everything they touch and the range of their power reaches further.

if the Moon is still within 12½ degrees applying orb of another planet we have to look further. If the Moon is making an application to another planet in the early degrees of another sign, then it is not VOC. The fact that this aspect will not perfect until the Moon has changed signs is irrelevant to the question.

"The sign cusp is NOT an Iron Curtain nor a concrete wall. It is the making of an applying aspect, rather than the perfection of the aspect that is important. If the Moon is making an applying aspect it is not VOC."


Another way to remember the rules:

The Moon IS VOC when it is in the first 18 degrees of a sign and makes NO applying Ptolemaic aspect to any other planet before it leaves the sign it is in. (There is basically no chance the 12.5 orb rule can apply before it leaves the sign.)

The Moon IS VOC when it is in the last 12 degrees of a sign and makes NO applying Ptolemaic aspect to planets in the first decanate of any other sign using a 12½ degrees orb.

The Moon IS NOT VOC when it is in the last 12 degrees of a sign but does make an applying Ptolemaic aspect to planets in the first decanate of another sign using a 12½ degrees orb.

Of course the Moon is definitely NOT VOC when it does make applying Ptolemaic aspects before leaving the sign it is in.

There is an additional exception. Even if the Moon is VOC... Lilly says: "All manner of matters goe hardly on (except the principall significators be very strong)"

The strong significators are those of... Taurus, Cancer, Sagittarius and Pisces... in those signs a VOC Moon is not much hindered and will perform much better, because Taurus, Cancer, Sagittarius and Pisces are all ruled by benefics.





I have to wonder about this note however, and hope the Committees doing the investigations have and use lawyers and others more efficient in their question time the we saw the other day with G.O.P. Lewandowski, clearly being coached to waste the 5 minute time limit and "win the charade" he was playing.




A void of course moon in Sagittarius is milder than others as the straying moon is milder in signs in which the planet Jupiter is exalted. You may be the victim of a prank or find out that information you thought was false was actually true after all. This stray moon is exasperating, more than anything, as others may become very vague when they communicate with you.

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Hmmm, that Moon is VOC. It is at 19'27 and has past Mercury, Venus, Jupiter, and Saturn.
Good catch. That's probably because the poster didn't have the authority to pose the horary question in the first place.

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The threat of an unnecessary war with Iran has never been higher.
Conflict with Iran is inevitable regardless who holds office.

The US has a strategy that envisions the Future, about 40-50 years from now.

In order to bring that vision to fruition, conflict with Iran is an absolute necessity.

Failure to realize the US vision will be disastrous for Americans.

Your own government says so:

The costs of not implementing this strategy are clear. Failure to meet our defense objectives will result in decreasing U.S. global influence, eroding cohesion among allies and partners, and reduced access to markets that will contribute to a decline in our prosperity and standard of living.

https://www.defense.gov/Portals/1/Do...gy-Summary.pdf


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Many Democrats refused to vote for her.
Many Independents refused, too.

The best candidate by far was Jim Webb, but the Lame-Stream Media had already anointed Hillary and were hellbent on ramming her down everyone's throats no matter what the cost.

It's unfortunate the lame people who whine about Russian influence are silent when it comes to US Media influence.
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AJ, the difference is that U.S. media is allowed by law to promote one candidate and denigrate another. Foreign influences posing as American are against the law, had a substantial impact, and therefore invalidated the Election.
As for the major media outlets, they ended up helping him win, by giving him at least a billion dollars in free publicity and lulling Democrats into a false sense of security that his candidacy was a joke, and that he couldn't possibly win. With "enemies" like that, who needs friends?
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'Fraudulent Impeachment Hearings' against President Trump
over Ukraine--DEEP STATE ATTACK!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuLhl7iCra4
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The way I see it (not that anyone else does) is that there is a right way to go about things and there is a wrong way.


Giving the potus the benefit of the doubt that he is sincere in his belief that somehow, Joe Biden's VP position gave his son a leg-up to riches is imo, probably true. But of course the same can be said of Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner with foreign countries. The "right" way would be to ask the Justice Dept to investigate the lawbreakers if he believes a law has been broken. Not to go around the bend acting like a mafia boss with a foreign country, (be it an ally as in this case, or as in 2016, the opposite as with Russia)


Trump rants about Hunter Biden and China, but doesn't blink an eyelash about his own daughter and son in law's antics in China, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar and elsewhere:
https://www.latimes.com/business/la-...418-story.html


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/28/b...rademarks.html


and, since she announced her"brand" would shut down, MORE trademarks a gift?

https://boingboing.net/2018/11/05/tr...-machines.html



The way that Trump decided to go about leveling the playing field was certainly without doubt, "the wrong way" and very probably illegal at that. Yet I have no doubt it came natural to him, as will defending his "god-given right" to stay in office beyond the allotted 4 years if he loses in 2020.
People who know him personally have said as much, that he will not go away if he loses or to leave the office behind in January of 2021. Instead, another suggested just the other day, he would likely get the military to keep him installed while insisting he won even if he loses.



Yet to be determined.



And NO, regardless of the "wiggle room" with the Impeachment VOC moon, I don't believe the Republicans will hold their man to the fire for his crimes, other then for a few who broke away already from his charms.
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How California’s Attack Against President Trump is Unconstitutional!
Inside Judicial Watch
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A WAR with IRAN?!? Is THIS what his supporters signed on for?!?
We need a balance in the middle east!
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A WAR with IRAN?!? Is THIS what his supporters signed on for?!?
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We need a balance in the middle east!
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Hi All,

Conflict with Iran is inevitable

regardless who holds office.

The US has a strategy that envisions the Future, about 40-50 years from now.
In order to bring that vision to fruition, conflict with Iran is an absolute necessity.
Failure to realize the US vision will be disastrous for Americans.
Your own government says so:
The costs of not implementing this strategy are clear.
Failure to meet our defense objectives
will result in decreasing U.S. global influence, eroding cohesion
among allies and partners, and
reduced access to markets
that will contribute to a decline in our prosperity
and standard of living.

https://www.defense.gov/Portals/1/Do...gy-Summary.pdf
Many Independents refused, too.
The best candidate by far was Jim Webb, but
the Lame-Stream Media had already anointed Hillary and were hellbent on ramming her down everyone's throats
no matter what the cost.
It's unfortunate the lame people who whine about Russian influence
are silent when it comes to US Media influence.
Deep State/House Dems Manufacture ANOTHER Crisis
to Justify Unlawful Impeachment of Trump!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BZhRYg7YdQ
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He never should have been ANYONE'S President.

218 votes for impeachment now. That's the required number.
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IMPEACHMENT OBSESSED DEMS PEDDLE NEW HOAX
Hannity: Transcript shows no misconduct whatsoever
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Iran never attacked New York nor Pentagon. U.S should just take the oil's money, and let them fight with each other. Period.
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Iran never attacked New York nor Pentagon.
U.S should just take the oil's money, and
let them fight with each other. Period.

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Not gonna happen in the near future, since Moscow still hold the grudge against D.C.


40% ninjas??? Lol.
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Not gonna happen in the near future, since Moscow still hold the grudge against D.C.

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Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand!

Read, study, and vigilantly practice
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Eeeexactly jupiterasc. There's a saying that goes like this "it doesn't matter who you vote for, the government still gets in." and I happen to agree with it. Obama was already helping with destroying two of those 7 listed countries, and Trump will just continue with it whether he likes it or not, because there are bigger forces at play than the president. The 9/11 attacks served as a catalyst and an extremely convenient excuse for invasion going forth. I don't think it's really a democrat vs republican battle, or at least not anymore. It's just an illusion created to divide and conquer people.
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Eeeexactly jupiterasc. There's a saying that goes like this "it doesn't matter who you vote for, the government still gets in." and I happen to agree with it. Obama was already helping with destroying two of those 7 listed countries, and Trump will just continue with it whether he likes it or not, because there are bigger forces at play than the president. The 9/11 attacks served as a catalyst and an extremely convenient excuse for invasion going forth. I don't think it's really a democrat vs republican battle, or at least not anymore. It's just an illusion created to divide and conquer people.
Who's forcing him to endorse GMOs, authorize the use of bee-killing pesticides, override the States regarding his lowered automobile emission standards, push for more coal and oil energy without requiring pollution controls, allow drilling on our coasts (except where it would impact his golf resort at Marlago) and in our wilderness areas, etc.? Is it this mysterious "Deep State" boogeyman, or the greed of the very real Corporate State he represents? Not ALL Republicans are in favor of the destruction of our shared environment, but ALL Trump-supporters are in collusion with it.

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It's happening. The Criminal-in-Chief will be forced out of office very soon.


There will be mass celebrations in the streets & tears of pure joy once this madman is gone & the trump name trashed forever. He won't go quietly, he'll try to drag as many down as he can; he won't avoid his own family being thrown out like trash like him. Kushner, Don Jr. all ending up in jail.



It is unacceptable for the president to talk like a sociopathic mobster when attacking the Ukraine scandal whistleblower.


The Sexual-Predator-in-Chief himself, has already said that he would like to know the identities of those who have placed him in jeopardy (or, in yet more jeopardy) of impeachment. Indeed, trump thinks the whistleblower should be dealt with as an enemy spy and a traitor to the state.

He thinks he's The Godfather when in reality, he's a complete loser who is not above the law.







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He's the FAKE President with a fake university who cheated his way into the WH just as he's been cheating the IRS his entire life & cheating the legal system. He's a rapist, a racist, a mentally deranged criminal who has broken every financial law that America has & FINALLY his luck has run out. He & his criminal family are all going to end up in prison except for pretty Ivanka who will cry her eyes out & throw daddy to the wolves so she can keep custody of her children.
There are currently eight investigations into financial crimes for the Trump family & organization.


One investigation centers on the role of the UAE, Saudi Arabia, and Israel, which were eager to help the campaign and, in some cases, have business ties to Trump or presidential son-in-law Jared Kushner. Kushner specifically appears to have been a key focus of these foreign efforts: The New Yorker and other news outlets have carefully traced how China, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia targeted Kushner.









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218 votes for impeachment now. That's the required number.
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Great contribution. He'll be gone by the end of the year or at the Pluto/Saturn conjunction early Jan 2020. It was clear from the inauguration chart that he was never going to remain in the WH for one term.

He's a goner & he's becoming even more crazy as the legal walls close in on him. He's on the Titanic; the ice-berg has hit & he & the rest of his criminal gang are all headed for deep, frigid water. No more life-boats for these losers!



Adam Schiff (D-CA) made the following statement:

“The Committee this morning will be releasing the declassified whistleblower complaint that it received late last night from the ODNI. It is a travesty that it was held up this long.

“This complaint should never have been withheld from Congress. It exposed serious wrongdoing, and was found both urgent and credible by the Inspector General.

“This complaint is a roadmap for our investigation, and provides significant information for the Committee to follow up on with other witnesses and documents. And it is corroborated by the call record released yesterday.

“I want to thank the whistleblower for having the courage to come forward, despite the reprisals they have already faced from the president and his acolytes. We will do everything in our power to protect this whistleblower, and every whistleblower, who comes forward.

“The public has a right to see the complaint and what it reveals.”

Liar-in-Chief can't wriggle his way out of this one.




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Impeachment Begins

Things have started moving swiftly on Capitol Hill, now that the Ukraine dam has broken, and the resulting flood could wash away Trump and the swampy residents of his cabinet. On September 24, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced that impeachment inquiries have officially begun.

About **** time.

The Speaker is in a strong, not to say unassailable, position, with asteroid Nancy conjunct that cosmic enforcer, asteroid Nemesis, bringing ruin and downfall in its wake, while opposing Damocles, the doom hanging overhead, and Askalaphus, the whistleblower, in a t-square with Sedna, Vesta and asteroid Lie, signaling the isolation of a public servant who has deceived and betrayed the public trust. All of which overlays Trump's natal Angles.

With asteroid Troemper exactly conjunct Saturn, also conjoined Pluto and exactly opposed the US Sun, in a t-square with Mercury and America, the nation (America) is about to be treated to the calling to account and possible punishment (both Saturn) of its Chief Executive (also Saturn), based in a full disclosure of the facts (Mercury) regarding Donald Trump's corruption (Pluto).

With Whitehouse opposed Achilles, Trump's vulnerability is clear to see, and a pairing of Hybris with Icarus shows reckless arrogance to be the cause. Although asteroid Senator conjoins Whitehouse, perhaps giving Trump cover from removal from office via his Senate GOP allies, asteroid McConnell conjunct Nancy and Nemesis seems to be ranging itself for a possible turncoat moment.

Grab the popcorn, this is about to get good!
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Re: Donald Trump will be impeached.

https://intelligence.house.gov/uploa...nt_unclass.pdf



Where is UNIQUE ASTROLOGER who nailed it correctly with his great astrology knowhow. He said this summer would be the beginning of the end for this Orange Monster-in-Chief.


GOOD CALL UNIQUE & I hope you are doing well; I know you were dealing with some health issues like myself but I'm hanging in there & hope you are too. We've gotta celebrate the end of this nightmare!!!

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