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👏Calling objective thinkers👏: "The Higher Mind" topic

On another post we were talking about our experiences with certain air sun, moon, rising signs and someone gave an interesting perspective on Gemini and Aquarius:

{""I agree with that. Aquas are full of themselves but they will always act democratic, they will always play at your level, on the otherside geminis will try to show that they are a level above you.

Aquas are like a higher level of gemini. ""}

So it made me curious, what are your experiences with Aquarius and Gemini souls? Do you feel that Aquarius is truly capable of being the higher mind? Or do Geminis express more of the higher mind? Granted I'm aware that we have lower and higher order beings (whether gems, Pisces, caps,etc) so naturally there will be many not living up to the potential of the sign/energy. This is not strictly sun, moon, rising sign related. These are souls having strong Gemini/Aquarius energy in their chart.
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My daughter is a Gemini, with her Sun tightly trine her Aquarius Moon in the 3rd. She has Sag rising.

I believe the Aquarius Moon does enhance her intellect and mental processes. Sometimes she immediately reacts in a more Gemini mind of way, and gets caught up in minor upsets about tiny day to day matters. She will call me and complain about something, talk it out , and she always slowly comes to the conclusion that in 'the big scheme of things' it is not such a big deal. But she says she just needs to 'process it' first to let it go.
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I've had a generally terrible experience with the sign Aquarius. I don't know any Geminis so I can't comment on them.

Every Aqua I've encountered has been some variation of close-minded, bigoted or just downright crazy. There is this guy in my Calculus class who just can't help himself from connecting the Math to his beloved extraterrestrials. Ok buddy, you're just "eccentric" not crazy at all.

I was debating with an Aquarius the other day and for all of their objectivity the person wouldn't stop trying to attack my character rather than my points. Being a smug Sagittarius, I just smiled and went on my merry way.

So I disagree wholeheartedly that Aquarius can even touch anything resembling "higher mental thought". LMAO please.

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My daughter is a Gemini, with her Sun tightly trine her Aquarius Moon in the 3rd. She has Sag rising.

I believe the Aquarius Moon does enhance her intellect and mental processes. Sometimes she immediately reacts in a more Gemini mind of way, and gets caught up in minor upsets about tiny day to day matters. She will call me and complain about something, talk it out , and she always slowly comes to the conclusion that in 'the big scheme of things' it is not such a big deal. But she says she just needs to 'process it' first to let it go.
Sounds familiar lol. My Mothers similar. Your daughter sounds like her journey "may" be mercury ruled. Moon in third (house of Gemini). Sun in 7th (ruled by Gemini) or sun in 6th house (house of Virgo.)
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My daughter is a Gemini, with her Sun tightly trine her Aquarius Moon in the 3rd. She has Sag rising.

I believe the Aquarius Moon does enhance her intellect and mental processes. Sometimes she immediately reacts in a more Gemini mind of way, and gets caught up in minor upsets about tiny day to day matters. She will call me and complain about something, talk it out , and she always slowly comes to the conclusion that in 'the big scheme of things' it is not such a big deal. But she says she just needs to 'process it' first to let it go.
By the way... Did her Aquarius moon give off a "reserved intellectual" energy?
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Re: 👏Calling objective thinkers👏: "The Higher Mind" topic

A gemini is talking
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By the way... Did her Aquarius moon give off a "reserved intellectual" energy?
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Technically speaking, Gemini is the lower mind, Sagittarius is the higher mind. Not that any one or two placements will tell you if someone is objective.

Gemini and Libra, and even Aquarius can often be very socially oriented and ditzy also; there's no way of telling how the air energy is expressed without knowing the chart and the background.
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On another post we were talking about our experiences with certain air sun, moon, rising signs and someone gave an interesting perspective on Gemini and Aquarius:

{""I agree with that. Aquas are full of themselves but they will always act democratic, they will always play at your level, on the otherside geminis will try to show that they are a level above you.

Aquas are like a higher level of gemini. ""}

So it made me curious, what are your experiences with Aquarius and Gemini souls? Do you feel that Aquarius is truly capable of being the higher mind? Or do Geminis express more of the higher mind? Granted I'm aware that we have lower and higher order beings (whether gems, Pisces, caps,etc) so naturally there will be many not living up to the potential of the sign/energy. This is not strictly sun, moon, rising sign related. These are souls having strong Gemini/Aquarius energy in their chart.
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Well, I wouldn't say Aquas are a higher level of Gemini, per se. It is too broad a statement. Given the fact that there are 12 signs only, you are mathematically labelling 1/12th of the world-population there.

I think what might perhaps be more befitting is that Uranus is the higher octave of Mercury.

Then come the various facets of the higher mind, and what you mean by it.
If you talk about 'the higher mind' in the sense of a sharp mind and a good grasping power, that often comes from Uranus-Mercury aspects on the positive side, the flip side of that being a rash/sharp tongue (often out of excitement and quick thinking). People with this aspect (unless other planetary aspects are involved) get bored easily and have concentration issues. They continually need new challenges and riddles to solve. These are the people that understand things in seconds and can already think two steps further. Unless the rest of the chart is more sanguine with, say, Saturn aspects, or planets in Taurus/Capricorn/Scorpio, these natives could be excellent students on the junior, middle school level, but will have problems as they grow because then a longer attention span is required to focus and absorb things.

Jupiter-Mercury would enhance one's thinking power quite a bit also. This person will want to consistently expand their thinking faculty with more knowledge. They could have a bent towards philosophy, and the more deep areas of life.

Saturn-Mercury will make for quite sensible and practical thinking. The slow and steady kinds. On the flip side, this can mean people that develop their speech later, some stammer in the childhood years. Saturn works its wonders normally during mid-age, or at least around/after the first Saturn return.

However, these aspects will not give a well-rounded picture about the native without considering their complete chart. You would need to see the quality of Mercury they have in terms of sign and house. You would need to see what other planets aspect that Mercury. Then what the third house and its ruler look like. Last but not the least, the two luminaries, the Sun (basic core of the native) and the Moon (emotions) have to be considered, as these will always colour the thinking of the person.
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Lol hmm like a coolness to them. Cerebral. But reserved.
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I've had a generally terrible experience with the sign Aquarius. I don't know any Geminis so I can't comment on them.

Every Aqua I've encountered has been some variation of close-minded, bigoted or just downright crazy. There is this guy in my Calculus class who just can't help himself from connecting the Math to his beloved extraterrestrials. Ok buddy, you're just "eccentric" not crazy at all.

I was debating with an Aquarius the other day and for all of their objectivity the person wouldn't stop trying to attack my character rather than my points. Being a smug Sagittarius, I just smiled and went on my merry way.

So I disagree wholeheartedly that Aquarius can even touch anything resembling "higher mental thought". LMAO please.
Of course they can exhibit higher mental thought but Aquarius can also be dogmatic due to the fixed nature. This applies to all Aquarius placements, including the Moon.
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I've had a generally terrible experience with the sign Aquarius. I don't know any Geminis so I can't comment on them.

Every Aqua I've encountered has been some variation of close-minded, bigoted or just downright crazy. There is this guy in my Calculus class who just can't help himself from connecting the Math to his beloved extraterrestrials. Ok buddy, you're just "eccentric" not crazy at all.

I was debating with an Aquarius the other day and for all of their objectivity the person wouldn't stop trying to attack my character rather than my points. Being a smug Sagittarius, I just smiled and went on my merry way.

So I disagree wholeheartedly that Aquarius can even touch anything resembling "higher mental thought". LMAO please.
@ {I've encountered has been some variation of close-minded, bigoted or just downright crazy. There is this guy in my Calculus class who just can't help himself from connecting the Math to his beloved extraterrestrials. Ok buddy, you're just "eccentric" not crazy at all.}

Lmao😂. Oh my goodness please stop. Too accurate.
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I've had a generally terrible experience with the sign Aquarius. I don't know any Geminis so I can't comment on them.

Every Aqua I've encountered has been some variation of close-minded, bigoted or just downright crazy. There is this guy in my Calculus class who just can't help himself from connecting the Math to his beloved extraterrestrials. Ok buddy, you're just "eccentric" not crazy at all.

I was debating with an Aquarius the other day and for all of their objectivity the person wouldn't stop trying to attack my character rather than my points. Being a smug Sagittarius, I just smiled and went on my merry way.

So I disagree wholeheartedly that Aquarius can even touch anything resembling "higher mental thought". LMAO please.
The dogmatic-ness I've also seen but surprisingly with libras more
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Which signs are known for objective thinking?
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Of course they can exhibit higher mental thought but Aquarius can also be dogmatic due to the fixed nature. This applies to all Aquarius placements, including the Moon.
Sibyl, you give the sign too much credit. It's only a given though because you have an Aquarius Mercury. So much for objectivity.
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Sibyl, you give the sign too much credit. It's only a given though because you have an Aquarius Mercury. So much for objectivity.
No, I think any sign is capable of higher thought, not just Aqua. Trying to make any determination about objectivity from a Sun sign is mostly a useless endeavor, IMO.
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No, I think any sign is capable of higher thought, not just Aqua. Trying to make any determination about objectivity from a Sun sign is mostly a useless endeavor, IMO.
Yeah, sun sign astrology is Sunday paper tier. But it the most practiced form of "astrology" out there.
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I think it is worth mentioning that wherever the Sun is, mercury is close by. It is either in the same sign as the Sun or an adjacent one just by its close proximity. So, a Gemini Sun can only have their mercury in Taurus, Gemini or Cancer. An Aquarius Sun can only have their mercury in Pisces, Aquarius or Capricorn.

And due to this (and to a lesser extent venus) people often have their personal planets grouped together in an area of their chart. Gemini is the only air sign that is in the 'day-light is greater' half of the zodiac. This is the time from the spring equinox to the fall equinox. It is the half that best deals with the individual whereas the 'darkness is greater' half of the zodiac deals better with the collective. This is a quick explanation as to why Gemini would be considered the lower mind and Sagittarius the higher mind as Sibylline pointed out. In short its individual thinking as opposed to collective thinking.

So, Aquarius may be a bit frustrating for those that don't like things to be too rigid, and too reserved for those that don't like their traditional ruler Saturn, but they most certainly are more concerned with objective thought than Geminis. They simply cant help it, both their Sun and their mercury are in the 'darkness is greater' half of the zodiac and in tropical terms that means thinking objectively.

I personally don't think its necessarily that great to think objectively. It has its merits for sure. But as you will see, mercury rules Gemini and Virgo, both 'day-light is greater' signs. Mercury does better when it can think a little more close to home. Leave the objective thinking for Jupiter.
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I think it is worth mentioning that wherever the Sun is, mercury is close by. It is either in the same sign as the Sun or an adjacent one just by its close proximity. So, a Gemini Sun can only have their mercury in Taurus, Gemini or Cancer. An Aquarius Sun can only have their mercury in Pisces, Aquarius or Capricorn.

And due to this (and to a lesser extent venus) people often have their personal planets grouped together in an area of their chart. Gemini is the only air sign that is in the 'day-light is greater' half of the zodiac. This is the time from the spring equinox to the fall equinox. It is the half that best deals with the individual whereas the 'darkness is greater' half of the zodiac deals better with the collective. This is a quick explanation as to why Gemini would be considered the lower mind and Sagittarius the higher mind as Sibylline pointed out. In short its individual thinking as opposed to collective thinking.

So, Aquarius may be a bit frustrating for those that don't like things to be too rigid, and too reserved for those that don't like their traditional ruler Saturn, but they most certainly are more concerned with objective thought than Geminis. They simply cant help it, both their Sun and their mercury are in the 'darkness is greater' half of the zodiac and in tropical terms that means thinking objectively.

I personally don't think its necessarily that great to think objectively. It has its merits for sure. But as you will see, mercury rules Gemini and Virgo, both 'day-light is greater' signs. Mercury does better when it can think a little more close to home. Leave the objective thinking for Jupiter.
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Re: 👏Calling objective thinkers👏: "The Higher Mind" topic

Alakazam is a pokemon that I suspect is a Gemini, but its psychic-type comparison, Metagross, is an Aquarius.

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See, Metagross is this way because it has been registered in his pokedex as having four brains that is similar to that of a supercomputer, and its steel body is unbending, which accounts for the its fixed nature (the similarities of astrological lore and its characteristics).

Alakazam


Alakazam is known for his psychic abilities of the mind, and being able to twist and bend spoons, which is a metaphor for the bendable nature of Gemini. It is intelligent, with its IQ being in the extreme level, and its body being much more flexible, agile, and limber. He is quicker, which represents the quick nature of Mercury.


Both of these pokemon have leveled up and reached their highest evolved state, their final evolution, and have reached their maximum potential. This is a lesson applicable for all of us.
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Alakazam is a pokemon that I suspect is a Gemini, but its psychic-type comparison, Metagross, is an Aquarius.

Metagross



See, Metagross is this way because it has been registered in his pokedex as having four brains that is similar to that of a supercomputer, and its steel body is unbending, which accounts for the its fixed nature (the similarities of astrological lore and its characteristics).

Alakazam


Alakazam is known for his psychic abilities of the mind, and being able to twist and bend spoons, which is a metaphor for the bendable nature of Gemini. It is intelligent, with its IQ being in the extreme level, and its body being much more flexible, agile, and limber. He is quicker, which represents the quick nature of Mercury.


Both of these pokemon have leveled up and reached their highest evolved state, their final evolution, and have reached their maximum potential. This is a lesson applicable for all of us.
Your way of explaining that was genius.
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Yeah, sun sign astrology is Sunday paper tier. But it the most practiced form of "astrology" out there.
I get what you are saying, but it is not a form of astrology actually, or really just very peripheral, because the millions reading "Aquarius this week" in the papers are not astrologers. They are laymen that are just curious to know about their future, which is a normal human trait.

This being an Astrology forum almost 'expects' people to step beyond the Sunday paper Zodiac section, since the aim here is to learn, practise and share real Astrology.
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In my opinion, 'Sun Sign Astrology' IS real astrology. There are attributes seen in the sign the sun is placed in , natally and by transit and progression. The Sun is of major importance in astrology and I think that the mass appeal of sun sign astrology helps get people interested in learning more.
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Sounds familiar lol. My Mothers similar. Your daughter sounds like her journey "may" be mercury ruled. Moon in third (house of Gemini). Sun in 7th (ruled by Gemini) or sun in 6th house (house of Virgo.)
You would be right, except I had not mentioned where Mercury, the ruler of all that stuff is placed. Her Mercury and Venus are in Taurus trining her Neptune/Uranus in Cap/2nd. So rather than intellectual pursuits, she is working in the arts. Has made a good living as a singer and voice over actress since childhood.
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