Do transits to progressed planets/S.A. planets "count"??

I've tried to read a bit about this, but haven't found a clear-cut answer. In one thread I read, people had very differing views on this topic. SOme said these transits were very powerful, others said that only transits to natal planets had any influence, and transits to progressions made no sense....

What do you people say?

Thanks!

Practical experience is a good judge.

My son was undergoing a s.p. Sun conjunct Venus. Sun rules 7th house.
As transit Uranus conjoined, his Libra Sun (ruler Venus) wife stated that she wanted a divorce when he confronted her with being unfaithful. A very realistic but also metaphorical 'bolt out of the blue'.

The transit to s.p.Sun meant a once-in-a-lifetime change to his life. Heartbreaking divorce, yet it gave him back the independence (Aquarius Sun in 1st) he had lost through marriage.

He's his own man.

Transits to progressions
make no sense. They are not meaningful.

Sometimes a progression to another progressed planet can make sense, like a progressed
Moon to Sun conjunction or opposition, which is a progressed New or Full Moon. These kinds of progressed to progressed aspects are of interest to some.

But typically it is transits and progressions to natal planets or points that are meaningful.

Could this be considered as counting?

My youngest daughter has:
sec. prog. Mercury on 19* in her 3rd house,
" " Venus on 18* in her 4th house,(ruler Asc. and Sun),
" " Moon now on 18* in her 6th house.

They aspect nothing in her personal chart NOW after having completed aspects to natal 1st house Pluto conjunct Mercury on 14* and Saturn on 15* 3-4 years back, corresponding to her brother-in-law dying too young from a terminal disease.
All are now influenced by transiting Saturn and Pluto through Sag. and Capricorn.
What do....or could.... they mean????

Her Taurus Sun (ruler Venus) mother-in-law is in the last stages of a terminal disease.

Thanks both for your views! Other opinions?

Frisiangal: could you post the chart of your daughter? Difficult for me to visualize the aspects you mention..

northernstar said:

I've tried to read a bit about this, but haven't found a clear-cut answer.
In one thread I read, people had very differing views on this topic.
SOme said these transits were very powerful
others said that only transits to natal planets had any influence
and transits to progressions made no sense....

What do you people say?

Thanks!

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A thread with clear cut answers from BobZemco
is at http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26827
examples from that detailed thread are as follows:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Inside Out Orange
I definitely want to do this because my chart is becoming ever more Libran.

BobZemco said:

If your Sun or Ascendant, progresses into Libra
you'll take on some (but not all) of those qualities.
As a Virgo, if you're a perfectionist and Venus is in bad shape and the Sun moves into Libra
you might become a little apathetic and that'll take some of the edge of that perfectionist streak.That's probably a bad example but the only one I can think of at the moment.

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Originally Posted by Inside Out Orange
My sun progressed there five years back
in 2017 even my Pluto progresses into it
to give me Sun/mercury/venus/uranus/pluto in there
at the same time that my Ascendent moves into Cancer
(squaring progressing pluto - hmmm)
and my progressed midheaven will oppose my natal Leo planets.

BobZemco said:

Then that house is going to have a lot of activity
especially as transiting Planets move round and set off aspects.

Jupiter goes round in 12 years or so
and spends about a month in each sign more or less
and is currently retrograde in Aries until about mid-November.
Jupiter will oppose those Planets, then move to trine, then square, then sextile
and you'll need to look at the natal houses Jupiter rules
plus the houses ruled by the progressed Planets in Libra
and the house of Libra to get a picture of what to expect.

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The American Ephemeris for the 20th Century
and The American Ephemeris for the 21st Century (2000 to 2050)
are available on amazon
but if those are unaffordable, then astro.com offers free
EPHEMERIS FOR 9000 YEARS http://www.astro.com/swisseph/swepha_e.htm

I've tried several times but can't upload the chart. Northern Star. Sorry.

You'll have to use visual imagination.

Frisiangal said:

I've tried several times but can't upload the chart. Northern Star. Sorry.

You'll have to use visual imagination.

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Maybe you can post the details of BC and maybe someone will upload it. *shrugs *

Perseverence wins?

I didn't scroll widthwise enough, so couldn't find upload!!!

JUPITERASC said:

A thread with clear cut answers from BobZemco
is at http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26827
examples from that detailed thread are as follows:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Inside Out Orange
I definitely want to do this because my chart is becoming ever more Libran.


Originally Posted by Inside Out Orange
My sun progressed there five years back
in 2017 even my Pluto progresses into it
to give me Sun/mercury/venus/uranus/pluto in there
at the same time that my Ascendent moves into Cancer
(squaring progressing pluto - hmmm)
and my progressed midheaven will oppose my natal Leo planets.



The American Ephemeris for the 20th Century
and The American Ephemeris for the 21st Century (2000 to 2050)
are available on amazon
but if those are unaffordable, then astro.com offers free
EPHEMERIS FOR 9000 YEARS http://www.astro.com/swisseph/swepha_e.htm

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Thanks for the link to the thread on progressions! But I couldn't really see that it answered my question about TRANSITS in relation to progressions... are they meaningful?

Frisiangal said:

Could this be considered as counting?

My youngest daughter has:
sec. prog. Mercury on 19* in her 3rd house,
" " Venus on 18* in her 4th house,(ruler Asc. and Sun),
" " Moon now on 18* in her 6th house.

They aspect nothing in her personal chart NOW after having completed aspects to natal 1st house Pluto conjunct Mercury on 14* and Saturn on 15* 3-4 years back, corresponding to her brother-in-law dying too young from a terminal disease.
All are now influenced by transiting Saturn and Pluto through Sag. and Capricorn.
What do....or could.... they mean????

Her Taurus Sun (ruler Venus) mother-in-law is in the last stages of a terminal disease.

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Glad you managed to upload! I will have to look at this when I have som more time...as I am a rookie in here

northernstar said:

my question about TRANSITS in relation to progressions... are they meaningful?

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Most definitely they are. Transits to Progressed Planets are typically used for timing. I've read it from a few sources. A quick google search revealed:

Transits to the Progressed Planets and Points: Transits to progressed planets and angles are extremely significant, and should never be overlooked. For example, transiting Saturn may not be making any significant aspects to our natal chart, but if it is squaring our progressed Sun, we will feel its influence in our lives.

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courtesy of cafeastrology.com

Transits to progressions
make no sense. They are not meaningful.

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In my experience specifically these are meaningful and can have visible consequences just as if the natal planet is receiving the transit. In fact I have witnessed several events which were predicted by such transits and came to pass in recent years.

The following are all valid from my research:

- Transit to natal ('regular' transits)
- Transit to progressed
- Progressed to natal
- Progressed to progressed

With 1 and 2 having quite a few similarities to 3 and 4 on the list.

northernstar said:

Thanks for the link to the thread on progressions!

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That's ok

northernstar said:

But I couldn't really see that it answered my question about TRANSITS in relation to progressions...
are they meaningful?

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You seem to have missed the following comment which answers your question
on the link to the thread on progressions!
i.e.

BobZemco said:

Then that house is going to have a lot of activity
especially as transiting Planets move round and set off aspects.

Jupiter goes round in 12 years or so and spends about a month in each sign...
...Jupiter will oppose those Planets
then move to trine
then square, then sextile
and you'll need to look at the natal houses Jupiter rules
plus the houses ruled by the progressed Planets in Libra
and the house of Libra to get a picture of what to expect.

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The transits BobZemco mentions are those of Jupiter to progressed planets
that have progressed into new houses
and
similarly ANY transiting planet aspecting any planet emphasised by progression
has the potential to influence events

JUPITERASC said:

That's ok

You seem to have missed the following comment which answers your question
on the link to the thread on progressions!
i.e.

The transits BobZemco mentions are those of Jupiter to progressed planets
that have progressed into new houses
and
similarly ANY transiting planet aspecting any planet emphasised by progression
has the potential to influence events

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Ah, ok- thanks! My bad

In my personal experience, looking at my life and my chart, transits to progressed planets or solar arc planets most definitely work and can be looked at to predict events or understand the current situation.

Also regarding transits to progressed planets/angles, especially the slower moving ones, we will, obviously, feel the effects of the transit to the natal point/planet first but then (assuming the progressed planet wasn't going retrograde back from the natal point) we will experience something related to that situation again when the transit hits the progression. For example in my chart I had transiting uranus going over the descendant approximately nine years ago, and significant relationships and friendships ended then. Recently when transiting uranus went over my progressed descendant one of those same people came back into my life again, for a short while (as is the nature of uranus).

Transiting neptune is opposite my progressed sun and all around me men in my life are terminally ill. The progressed sun hasn't made any aspect to other progressed planets that would indicate this, and my natal sun isn't suffering this transit.

I think this is an article written by Celeste Teal, who is generally respected for her knowledge of astrology, which mentions that you can look at transits to progressions.

http://www.moonvalleyastrologer.com/secondary-progressions/