How To Verify Asc Rising Using Wedding Day Transits

JUPITERASC

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Particularly at the time vows are spoken at a wedding

(a) the Ascendant Ruler and the Ruler of Cusp Seven
must connect to the Natal Horizon DESC/ASC axis
because
that is what a wedding is, astrologically :smile:


(b) On the wedding day
Sun, Moon, Venus and Mars
must also connect to the Natal Horizon DESC/ASC axis

Why?

because:
Venus and Mars must connect in order to symbolise the
'...Archetypal Lovers...'

Sun and Moon must connect in order to symbolise the
'...Domestic Couple....'
– now united by marriage
and involved in '...house-keeping...'
child-bearing, child rearing



Some ways ASC/DESC rulers connect to Natal Horizon:

(1) Trine, sextile, square, opposition, conjunction


(2) Any ASC/DESC ruler conjunct MC
is considered to connect to the local horizon via the MC/IC AXIS

(3) I have noted from personal observation
that Midpoints of transiting ASC/DESC rulers of the wedding date
frequently connect to the Natal Horizon.







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FACTORS TO CONSIDER
IF time of birth COULD have been 10 - 20 minutes out
would there have been the same ASC/DESC axis?
by the way
posts to this forum by a young midwife/nurse
confirm from her personal observation
times of births
AND
times of deaths
are frequently noted many HOURS AFTER the event.
Obviously, a birth cannot be noted AT THE PRECISE TIME OF THE EVENT
because at that time medical staff are focused on health and well being
of mother AND newborn
because their physical well being is far more important
than noting the time
- either (a) in written form or (B) computer notation of some form :smile:


No matter how efficient hospital staff are
there is human error
e.g. regarding births around midnight
it is easily done to note the birth for the previous day/next day in error.
also a person told me they discovered that
their birth was registered for the wrong day
because
their father got the day wrong when he went to the office for registration of birth
and
once a birth is registered it cannot be changed
EXCEPT perhaps a note may be ADDED
but then only under special circumstances.
In general most would agree a time of birth is noted AFTER the event

and therefore
the question is simply
HOW LONG after the event? Minutes? Hours? Days? Months? Years even?

It MAY be noted within fifteen minutes to half an hour
but not always

According to our forum member nurse/midwife
after newborn has been bathed, clothed and attended to
a member of the medical team checks their own
or a hospital timepiece
and notes the time.
IF however a mother is experiencing a medical emergency
during or immediately after the birth of a newborn
then
it is possible that time of birth of newborn is not noted
until the mother has been attended to
and so
THEN it is an ESTIMATED time
reliant on the memory of medical staff who were present.
consider reliability of clocks/watches

Ever checked the time with someone and discovered a variation?
Some mothers can give an accurate time for the birth of their child
- whereas some have more hazy recall
due to having been medicated for labour pain experienced at the time.

If the father or other friend or relative was present at the birth
then there is a greater likelihood of getting a time estimate
- even an exact time
- from their memory of the event.
Hospitals in US
compared with hospitals in France/Germany/Spain
Russia/China/India/Australia/South America and so on
have entirely different protocols regarding times for paperwork completion
That makes rectification necessary
simply to
check/verify existing paperwork/documentation :smile:


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