A new perspective on the exaltation and The prototype of the Babylonian Zodiac and Aq

JUPITERASC

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The Instructions of Enki - Ancient Sumerian Records Wide Open :smile:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ibd4Q5K1aqw&t=29s


Most Sumerian literature is preserved indirectly, via Assyrian or Babylonian copies.
The Sumerians invented one of the first writing systems,
developing Sumerian cuneiform writing out of earlier proto-writing systems
by about the 30th century BC.
The earliest literary texts appear from about the 27th century BC.
New Sumerian Tablets of Creation Documentary 2018 Original Texts Exposed Bare :smile:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykVwsJaHqik

Hi JUIPITERASC,

That much is true. Ages are a modern astrology concept. It has no place in traditional astrology because nobody ever cared about the ages.

They did have huge festivals when they changed from Gemini to Taurus and Taurus to Aries.


Sun rises in Aquarius in:

2499 (Fagen)
2207 (Deluce/Lahiri)
2602 (Raman)
2511 (Krishnamurti)
2779 (Ushanashi)
2201 (Djwhal Khul)
2601 (Sundara Rajan)
2702 (Sri Yuktessar)
2222 (Ely)
2500 (Takra)

Maybe you all can figure which one of those very fine sidereal systems is the real one.

Kinda reminds me of modern astrology. We can argue what Pluto actually does and then when we get tired of doing that, we can argue about whether Pluto is really a planet. And then when get tired of arguing about whether Pluto is planet, we can go back and argue about what Pluto really does.


Hi Kiril stoychev,
The rising of Sun on the vernal equinox is what marked the change.
I'll explain that......


....there's a clay tablet that lists the ages from Pisces to Taurus with commentary for all except Taurus, presumably because the tablet was written during the age of Taurus.

The tablet is broken so it's not possible to read the comments for Pisces, Aquarius, Capricorn and Sagittarius, and only part of Scorpio, but there is commentary for Libra, Virgo, Leo, Cancer and Gemini.

The comment for Leo is that a sphinx was built in Egypt to mark the Deluge. Since they were usually in pairs, I'd guess there might have been a second sphinx on the Saudi Peninsula across the Red Sea, or maybe even in India.

What does that have to do with ages?

The Sumerian story of the Deluge is that Nergal has an observatory in his domain in southern Africa and sees something in the heavens. It never says what exactly he saw, but a reasonable guess is an asteroid or comet. He calls his father Enki and brother Ningishiddza to confirm it. They send for Marduk who comes down and says, yeah I see what you're seeing.

The four of them go to Enlil and tell him this thing is going to happen and wipe out most humans. Enlil calls an emergency council of the gods, tells them what's going to happen and then makes them swear an oath of secrecy to not tell any humans of the pending disaster.

According to the Sumerians, Enki and his half-sister Ninhursag and son Ningishiddza create humans and Enki loves humans.

Enki wanted to give humans knowledge, but Enlil and two of his sons Ninurta/El Shaddai and Adad say no, but Enki does it anyway and makes Enlil mad. The Hebrews perverted that story into a morality play, but the serpent in the Garden of Eden is Enki, who like his son Ningishiddza was a "serpent god" and their symbol was two snakes entwined on a pole, the caduceus the symbol for the medical profession today.

Enki finds a way to tell his faithful servant Ziursurda without violating his oath of secrecy how to build a certain ship and the name of a man who can navigate the ship.

The Deluge lasts 3-5 days and the gods, where ever they were watching it all were horrified and started crying. When it's over, the gods are walking around and Enlil sees smoke from a camp-fire. He knows Enki tricked him again, but he isn't mad, he's actually happy. Enlil finds Ziusurda and entourage and promises that nothing like this will ever happen again, a rainbow appears in the sky and Enlil says that's a symbol of our promise to you.

Now, fast forward a few ages to the end of the age of Taurus.

Previously, the gods had divided duties on Earth by drawing lots. An drew the short straw and got the heavens, Enlil got Eurasia and Enki got Africa, plus Enlil was in charge of Earth....

...until the age of Aries. When Aries came, Enki was supposed to take over and rule Earth, but he had no desire to rule so he gave the honor to his son Marduk.

Marduk is at his brother Nergal's observatory in southern Africa, then goes to the council of gods and says, hey, we're in Aries. I'm supposed to be ruling now.

The gods say, no, we're still in the age of Taurus. Marduk says, no, when the Deluge happened, it did something to Earth to mess up the skies. We're supposed be in Aries. The gods say, we don't care what happened, you can start ruling just as soon as Sun rises in Aries.

Marduk gets mad and declares war on the gods (except his father Enki who decided to sit it out).

Marduk's first-born son is Nabu, like King Nebuchadnezzar which means something like blessed of Nabu or beloved of Nabu or something like that. Nabu is commanding Marduk's armies, who happen to be located in the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah.

Ninurta/El Shaddai, one of Enlil's sons and Nergal a son of Enki destroy Sodom and Gomorrah in an attempt to destroy Marduk's armies. That's another story the Hebrews turned into just another morality play. They are successful, but it doesn't matter because Marduk ends up winning the war anyway.

If you're wondering what Marduk was talking about, there are impact sites in Canada and the US dated to 12,000 years ago during the age of Leo.

The friction in Earth's atmosphere will cause smaller asteroids and comets to oblate, which is a fancy way of saying "deform." Pieces break off and those impact sites suggest that's exactly what happened.

You can imagine an asteroid or comet landing in the south Pacific Ocean. It would generate a tsunami. It might even melt or partially melt one of the ice sheets on Antarctica and make it worse.

The tsunami, or the asteroid impact, or both could retard the rotational speed of Earth. Not by much. Maybe one-one hundredth of a second (0.01).

That's not a lot. We'd never notice that.

But over a long period of time, say 10,000 years, that 0.01 second turns into 36,500" of arc which is 608' of arc which is 10 degrees of arc.

You can see why Marduk might be very angry if he thought things were off-kilter by a few degrees of arc.


Anyway, they marked ages by sunrise on the equinox, and I think it's reasonably clear they were referring to constellations and not signs.
 
Hi JUIPITERASC,

That much is true. Ages are a modern astrology concept. It has no place in traditional astrology because nobody ever cared about the ages.


The figure Christ himself bears many of the temperaments and personality traits of a Pisces,[30] and is thus considered an archetype of the Piscean.[31] Moreover, the twelve apostles were called the "fishers of men," early Christians called themselves "little fishes," and a code word for Jesus was the Greek word for fish, "Ikhthus."[29]



FROM Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pisces_(astrology)
 
The rising of Sun on the vernal equinox is what marked the change.


This is somewhat true, but not quite.
I explained this in my report, if you didn't pay attention, please read it

When the sun rises in the spring, you cannot see in which constellation it is and use it as a marker.

You can see which zodiacal constellation is visible at East 1 hour before sunrise.

The ancient Sumerians were observing what was seen, not the invisible. Particular attention was paid to the heliacal sunrises of stars and planets.
 
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CapAquaPis

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Re: The prototype of the Babylonian Zodiac

Yes, but the traditional board restricts discussion. I agree, we need a sidereal board.

After almost 8 years of posting in the AW forum, finally someone has to point out a need to expand the board before the 2020's arrive. The so-called Age of Aquarius (it didn't start in 2000-01, nor 2012, 1989, 1979 and 1968-69). And the thread title: A new perspective on the exaltation and The prototype of the Babylonian Zodiac and Aq...uarius? Is this a tropical or sidereal age? The combination of Aquarius and Capricorn is a Saturnian one about science, humanism, egalitarianism and most of all, an increased interest in astrology. Uranus is the modern ruler of Aquarius, but Saturn remains its big co-ruler.
 

CapAquaPis

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The 4 recent ages of astrology and where the "center of world civilization" is located:
Taurus (4000-2001 BCE) - Ancient Egypt (symbolized by Turanians/Turkics).
Aries (2000-1 BCE) - Northern India (the Aryans sharing European origins).
Pisces (1 AD-2000 AD) - Christianity (and Islam, both are Semitic Abrahamic monotheist religions).
Aquarius (2001 AD-today) - Northern Europe (symbolized by the Indian subcontinent).
And each 1/12th of the earth is divided into 30-degree longitudinal areas ruled by a certain sign.
Aquarius (29W-1E) - Western Europe.
Pisces (1E-31E) - European continent.
Aries (31E-61E) - Areas east of the Great Pyramids of Giza, Egypt like Israel.
Taurus (61E-91E) - India and South Asia.
Babylonia is between the signs Aries and Pisces (the beginning and ending of the astrological zodiac year).
 
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