Is Neptune an Astrological Planet?

petosiris

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The EARTH is the 11th planet, held fixed but REPRESENTED by transiting points DEPENDENT on: Earth's ecliptic + horizon + rotation (the Ascendant), on its ecliptic + obliquity + wobble (sidereal Age-indicator), and its ecliptic + elliptical orbit + wobble (tropical Age-indicator).

Objection overruled. :biggrin:

The Earth is not a planet. It does not move, unlike all heavenly bodies.
 

david starling

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The ecliptic is the path of the Sun and all the planets by 0 latitude. All planets and fixed stars rotate around the Earth every 23 hours and 56 minutes, not factoring their other motions.

Caution: At least a modicum of objective overview is required to recognize that the Earth is, in fact, a planet revolving around the Sun.
 

petosiris

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Because our astrology is rooted in the Hellenistic period, which coincided with the tropical Age of Sagittarius (c.1400 B.C.E.-400 A.D.)

Most Renaissance astrologers like Morinus said that astrology was practiced and transmitted to the nations by the patriarchs like Noah and Abraham. The traditions of the Jews in the Talmud also contain such stories.

Anyway most Hellenistic astrologers were idol-worshippers. However, by their own account, all their methods are natural and part of physics, not religious - https://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1020530&postcount=16
 
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david starling

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Most Renaissance astrologers like Morinus said that astrology was practiced by the patriarchs like Noah and Abraham. The traditions of the Jews in the Talmud also contain such stories.

Anyway most Hellenistic astrologers were idol-worshippers. However, by their own account, all their methods are natural and part of physics, not religious - https://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1020530&postcount=16

Aristarchus of Samos (c.250 B.C.E.) is first on record to envision the overview of the Heliocentric system.
 

petosiris

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Aristarchus of Samos (c.250 B.C.E.) is first on record to envision the overview of the Heliocentric system.

His theory wasn't widely accepted because he didn't provide much evidence. Anyways, there isn't just one heliocentric model and just one geocentric model, but variety of models some coming from antiquity - Eudoxus and philosophers used Earth as constant center, Ptolemy used deferents and epicycles, Copernicus used epicycles, Wittich and Capella thought that the orbits of the Sun and Mars do not intersect, Ursus thought the orbits of Venus and Mercury and Mars intersect, but not of the Sun, Tycho thought the Sun and Mars orbits intersect and so on.
 

david starling

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His theory wasn't widely accepted because he didn't provide much evidence. Anyways, there isn't just one heliocentric model and just one geocentric model, but variety of models some coming from antiquity - Eudoxus and philosophers used Earth as constant center, Ptolemy used deferents and epicycles, Copernicus used epicycles, Wittich and Capella thought that the orbits of the Sun and Mars do not intersect, Ursus thought the orbits of Venus and Mercury and Mars intersect, but not of the Sun, Tycho thought the Sun and Mars orbits intersect and so on.

Heraclides Ponticus (c.350 B.C.E.) is credited with the theory that Earth revolves on its axis.

My point is, that the overview can be used to provide interpretive information for the fixed-Earth configuration. Again, all movement is relative to the CHOICE of what is held stationary. Can't be proven one way or the other, but Kepler's 3 laws of heliocentric planetary motion, with Earth included as a planet, simplified it so well and so accurately, it's been adopted as the only "correct" modern, scientific theory .
 

petosiris

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Heraclides Ponticus (c.350 B.C.E.) is credited with the theory that Earth revolves on its axis.

My point is, that the overview can be used to provide interpretive information for the fixed-Earth configuration. Again, all movement is relative to the CHOICE of what is held stationary. Can't be proven one way or the other, but Kepler's 3 laws of heliocentric planetary motion, with Earth included as a planet, simplified it so well and so accurately, it's been adopted as the only "correct" modern, scientific theory .

Well it is not the only correct model according to the modern relativists Einstein and Infeld (1938).
 
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