The Tropical Ages of Earth
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david starling
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Not everyone gets the concept of "Ages". An Age sets the context of the entire Chart. It enhances the qualities of the Age-sign, and increases the authority of the Age-sign ruler. Bumps it up a notch. The rest of the Chart is about how we deal with that Astral environment while living our daily lives.
david starling
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Is that electro magnetic radiation sir¿
The Earth is our electro-magnetic environment. And, we each have an electromagnetic field of our own that connects with it. It's hidden in plain sight. Does a fish know it's wet?
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SunConjunctUranus
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JUPITERASC
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Let's view petosiris actual comment"The Earth is not a planet...." -{petosiris}.
Exactly - as petosiris mentioned
within the obvious context of a Geocentric astrological chart
the earth is not a wanderer like Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn
because
The Earth is a Geocentric observation point for astrological charts
and as such
the ascendant of an astrological chart
is the ascendant of Earth itself
therefore
clearly
obviously therefore
ridiculous to expect to observe Earth orbiting its own skies above its own horizon
IN CONTRAST
from our Geocentric perspective
seven classical planets reflecting light from the Sun
are easily observable above Earths horizon
whereas obviously
Earth is not separately visible in its own skies above Earths own horizon
A HISTORICAL NOTE FOLLOWS
Before artificial aids to vision
such as spectacles, binoculars, telescopes, Hubble Telescope, Observatories,
the Ancient utilised simple naked eye observation
to view local night skies
These Ancients noted celestial objects easily visible with the naked eye
that in fact have been observed for all of human history:
Technically,
there was never a scientific definition of the term Planet before 2006.
Greeks observing skies thousands of years ago
noticed celestial objects acting differently from Fixed Stars.
These points of light seemed to wander around the sky throughout the year.
hence the Greek term "planet" from the Greek word "Planetes"
- meaning wanderer.
i.e.
JUPITERASC
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REMINDER
Remember to mention the physical body
i.e.
an horoscopic astrological natal chart
illustrates visually
the moment of birth of a newborn
JUPITERASC
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Since we are located ON Earth
obviously then Earth itself is of major importance to those located on Earth
the Point of Sunrise is created by Earth rotating on its own axis
and
in fact
there is a form of astrology
known as THE SUNRISE CHART
that is frequently utilised when no reliable time of birth is available
https://lienhard4astrology.wordpress.com/sun-rising-chart/
david starling
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Moderation in all things, including a subjective view of how we are situated. It can be informed by the objective view that the Earth is both rotating on its axis, and a planet wandering around the Sun on an elliptical orbit, without abandoning the astrological, Geocentric coordinate-system.
JUPITERASC
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david starling
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So, petosiris is half-right in my opinion, concerning whether the Earth is a "planet". Objectively speaking it is, but not in the same sense as in the purely subjective view.
JUPITERASC
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reviewing petosiris actual comment we find the following observation
Exactly because planet is derived from a Greek word "wanderer"
The Earth is a Geocentric observation point for astrological charts
within the context of a Geocentric astrological chart
the earth is not a wanderer like Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn
and as such
the ascendant of an astrological chart
is the ascendant of Earth itself
therefore
ridiculous to claim ability to observe Earth orbiting its own skies above its own horizon
clearly
Earth is not separately visible in its own skies above Earths own horizon
HISTORICALLY
to view local night skies
Ancient utilised simple naked eye observation
NOT spectacles, binoculars, telescopes, Hubble Telescope, Observatories
These Ancients noted celestial objects easily visible with the naked eye
that in fact have been observed for all of human history:
Technically there was never a scientific definition
of the term Planet before 2006.
Planet is a word derived from Ancient Greek
because, when Greeks noticed particular celestial objects
acting differently from Fixed Stars
seeming to wander around the sky throughout the year
the Greeks identified these points of light as "Planetes" aka 'wanderers'
It is not simply a coordinate system. We are actually standing on Earth.
david starling
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ALL movement is relative to what's being held stationary within the coordinates.
It makes sense to have Earth at the center of the circle, because it's where we are. But, it can still be rotating, with a Sun that orbits the Earth. The Ecliptic has a dual nature, as informed by an overview: It's the Earth/Sun orbital plane, and our plane of zodiacal measurement.
As for the location of the measured-point Sign-boundaries along the circumference of the Earth-centered zodiacal circle, tropical chooses to hold the Seasonally-measured points stationary within its coordinates. Sidereal chooses to hold the lines of Celestial Longitude that run through the distant stars, including Aldebaran and Spica, stationary.
BlackLioness87
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Mr. Starling, Would you please post the chart you are referring to? Is it current tropical age "birth chart" or we human people charts? If you are talking about people then... If we are currently experiencing Capricornian Age then Saturn as it's ruler is someway "enhanced". And all people under heavy Saturn influence are the ones in charge of leading this tropical age?
BTW I have Saturn in Sagitarius in 3H, it rules my 5H, and it's in trine with my Leo Sun. Most of the time I don't feel its transits affect me, IDKW.
I wish people would comment on this thread when they have something really important to add. If we are to criticize then it's better to wait until Mr. Starling finishes his introduction to Tropical Ages.
I'm officially subscribed to this thread yay!!!
BlackLioness87
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If I move to Mars then I'll need a mars-centric relocation chart. Mars wouldn't be an influence on me anymore because it wouldn't be a planet from an astrological and mars based perspective.Let's view petosiris actual comment
Exactly - as petosiris mentioned
within the obvious context of a Geocentric astrological chart
the earth is not a wanderer like Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn
because
The Earth is a Geocentric observation point for astrological charts
and as such
the ascendant of an astrological chart
is the ascendant of Earth itself
therefore
clearly
obviously therefore
ridiculous to expect to observe Earth orbiting its own skies above its own horizon
IN CONTRAST
from our Geocentric perspective
seven classical planets reflecting light from the Sun
are easily observable above Earths horizon
whereas obviously
Earth is not separately visible in its own skies above Earths own horizon
I wonder if you have an opinion about that, dear JupiterASC.
SunConjunctUranus
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@black
The "Age" concept is generational timing that based on Sun as single Star, counting 0° degree Aries from equinoxes, and using highly complex mathematical equotations.
The "Age" concept is generational timing that based on Sun as single Star, counting 0° degree Aries from equinoxes, and using highly complex mathematical equotations.
david starling
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Where is it currently located in a Chart?
SunConjunctUranus
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david starling
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I don't know sir. As you are the OP, I wish you could share the chart.
To use the 0 degrees tropical Aries point to locate the Sign and degree of the Age, you'll need a sidereal chart and whatever ayanamsa you trust. The transiting Age-indicator is in all sidereal Charts, but not tropical, using this method. Sidereal only. Currently, using Aldebaran to center sidereal Taurus, it's located at 5 degrees Pisces, and moving Retrograde.
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SunConjunctUranus
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Sir David, as I stated before it is based on equinoxes so sidereal didn't take a part of it because not using constellations. May us aqcuire the chart ¿