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That doesn't even have to do with the thread topic.

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If there was some way to stop describing people using colors, and instead, refer to them by culture and group history, I think it would be a step forward. Labels are a powerful influence. "Native American" instead of "Red-race", "Afro-American" instead of "Black", "Euro-American", instead of "White", etc.
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Hey, how about those Redskins! And, isn't it an appropriate name for the athletic franchise of the Capital city of the nation that committed racially inspired atrocities against the indigenous culture, while expropriating their land?

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Other naming conventions have been proposed and used
but NONE are accepted by ALL indigenous groups
Typically, each name has a particular audience
and political or cultural connotation, and regional usage varies.


That's a problem with labels. For example, the children of Mexican immigrants have various names for their groupings from one State to another. It's not a "one label fits all" situation. But,"Latino" is being used indiscriminately, regardless of what Spanish-speaking culture is involved, or whether the people immigrated here or were born and raised here.
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All those descriptive labels refer to "Americans"
thus underlining
the disregard of the mass genocide
of the vast majority of the indigenous peoples

and the theft of their land

regarding the indigenous peoples
whose land has been stolen
the label pre-fix "American" simply adds insult to injury
Good point. Except, there are Indigenous peoples in Canada, Honduras, Ecuador, Chile, etc. And this country is NOW referred to in geopolitical terms as "America", so Indigenous cultures based here, that survived the Holocaust, are accurately described as such. Not all "Indigenous" cultures have the same historical legacy.
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That's a problem with labels. For example, the children of Mexican immigrants have various names for their groupings from one State to another. It's not a "one label fits all" situation. But,"Latino" is being used indiscriminately, regardless of what Spanish-speaking culture is involved, or whether the people immigrated here or were born and raised here.
or the definition of Asian-American, between 25 to 35 Asian nationalities and ethnicities (immigrants or native-born) in East, Southeast, South and Central Asia (the continent). Pacific Islanders too from the Pacific ocean region. And Middle Easterners are counted as "white", like Arabs (20-25 nations), Armenians, Assyrians, Azeris, Afghans, Kurds, Persians and Turks.
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"Aboriginals" could be used, but you'd still have to specify their group history. Also, it's been taken to mean the Indigenous cultures of Australia and New Zealand. Admitting this land is now under the effective control of a group calling it "America" (notice the exclusion of Canada and Mexico in the slogan "Make America Great Again", even though those nations are North-American as well) isn't the same as excusing what was done, and is still being done here.
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An article on my newsfeed this morning: America was never white and will never be. http://www.newsweek.com/america-was-...will-be-655363 The first US census in 1970 found about 26% (may be as high as 35%) of the population was black or 740,000 Africans, about 90% of them were slaves. Also between 5-10% are Native Americans with US citizenship. and many Irish and German immigrants, as well earlier Dutch, French and Swedes before the British colonial era (but the Spanish were already in Florida).
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An article on my newsfeed this morning: America was never white and will never be. http://www.newsweek.com/america-was-...will-be-655363 The first US census in 1970 found about 26% (may be as high as 35%) of the population was black or 740,000 Africans, about 90% of them were slaves. Also between 5-10% are Native Americans with US citizenship. and many Irish and German immigrants, as well earlier Dutch, French and Swedes before the British colonial era (but the Spanish were already in Florida).
Right. The CULTURE of this Nation is currently of EUROPEAN origin. But, you, yourself, shouldn't have to be of European origin to FULLY participate in it and benefit from it. That's where the racism comes into play.
Try eliminating the label "White", and substitute "Caucasian"(a label referring to those primarily of European origin).

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Right. The CULTURE of this Nation is currently of EUROPEAN origin. But, you, yourself, shouldn't have to be of European origin to FULLY participate in it and benefit from it. That's where the racism comes into play.
Try eliminating the label "White", and substitute "Caucasian"(a label referring to those primarily of European origin).
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"Aboriginals" could be used, but you'd still have to specify their group history. Also, it's been taken to mean the Indigenous cultures of Australia and New Zealand. Admitting this land is now under the effective control of a group calling it "America" (notice the exclusion of Canada and Mexico in the slogan "Make America Great Again", even though those nations are North-American as well) isn't the same as excusing what was done, and is still being done here.




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While of the same Race, the bitter, violent strife between Sunnis and Shiites began over 1300 YEARS ago!
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Neither Tradition nor Society can free us from hate and war--we, as Individuals, have to do that for ourselves.
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