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Re: Karmic implications of antares and aldebarren

Fixed star Aldebaran is found at 9º Gemini 47’ in the right eye of the bull in Taurus. It is probably the most famous of the four Archangel stars representing St Michael. God’s military commander and opposite his nemesis Antares in the Scorpion. Aldebaran seems to have gained the better reputation than his opposite number. But really, in my opinion, Aldebaran and Antares are two sides of the same coin.
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I have the energy of warrior in me, but will not fight for the shear sake of it. I am determined when I have a just cause, eg, I will fight for ecology, for the elderly in society, for the infirm, against injustice and corruption via corporations. In a way, it is my way of making peace, or balance, which is somewhat anti-Mars, using the energy of Mars. I guess I need a channel for my energy.
So do I. I think our charts are very similar

I've always associated antares with Uriel the angel though and Aldabaran with Michael. My south node is conjunct aldebaran and north node conjunct antares with my mars and neptune

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I think ppl with nodes on these degrees have a history and future of a warrior of some sort, perhaps not always in a physical way depending on the person.
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I have Moon conjunct Antares in the 12th -it doesn't get much more karmic than that!

In my previous life, I was a soldier who died a violent death in WWII.

This is a crazy star though. Antares is clearly associated with both benefic Jupiter and malefic Mars because the star is in Jupiter-ruled Sag. yet part of Mars-ruled Scorpius so that's why the meanings look like a hodge-podge description of both: Mars/Scorpio (death, power, violence, war, etc.) and Jupiter/Sag. (philosophy, fortune, etc.). It seems difficult to reconcile such contrasting qualities into a single influence, so I really don't know what to expect from this placement...

I do have a feeling of dread about it though, especially since T Saturn will be conjunct my Moon this December.

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I have the same placement of my nodal axis, I was born just a few weeks after you....
What the south node implies in conjunction with Aldebaran goes very well with the rest of the karmic aspects of my chart - and funnily enough was also confirmed by a past life revisit experience I had under hypnosis recently.

My 12th house is ruled by Mars which is in the 8th house. My south node is in the 1st house and my taurus ascendant is conjunct algol and them lot (which teaches us that if fixed stars descriptions were to be taken literal, I should be a serial killer or something....). I also have the asteroid Karma conjunct the South node. So there is an overall lone warrior or military theme with all the karmic aspects of my chart.

My past life revisit showed me a past life as some sort of female warrior princess and later chief. Nothing fancy or famous, just the chief of a small tribe in a setting that felt somewhat nordic or celtic. I was the first female to lead my tribe so it did have some revolutionary aspect to it. I felt a very strong emotional connection to what I "saw" and it shed some light on experiences I keep having in this life. I can only recommend this.....

Having said that - my North node in 7th constellation is giving me a hard time because I can't seem to shake off that lone warrior theme even now....
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I have the same placement of my nodal axis, I was born just a few weeks after you....
What the south node implies in conjunction with Aldebaran goes very well with the rest of the karmic aspects of my chart - and funnily enough was also confirmed by a past life revisit experience I had under hypnosis recently.

My 12th house is ruled by Mars which is in the 8th house. My south node is in the 1st house and my taurus ascendant is conjunct algol and them lot (which teaches us that if fixed stars descriptions were to be taken literal, I should be a serial killer or something....). I also have the asteroid Karma conjunct the South node. So there is an overall lone warrior or military theme with all the karmic aspects of my chart.

My past life revisit showed me a past life as some sort of female warrior princess and later chief. Nothing fancy or famous, just the chief of a small tribe in a setting that felt somewhat nordic or celtic. I was the first female to lead my tribe so it did have some revolutionary aspect to it. I felt a very strong emotional connection to what I "saw" and it shed some light on experiences I keep having in this life. I can only recommend this.....

Having said that - my North node in 7th constellation is giving me a hard time because I can't seem to shake off that lone warrior theme even now....

I haven't been to this thread in a while.

Thanks all for sharing your insights.

Janoe, interesting experience. Your north node is in the 7th? Mine is in the first house. Would you also then have Neptune conjunct North node, though I do consider the outer planets, not all people do.

For me, I've read that I influence myself more with that aspect. North node in 7th I've read that others influence you more.

For me, my path is very spiritual in nature, I'm learning more about listening to energies other than the material 'everyday' ones. I'm doing a shamanic journey course soon. Its a life long lesson to understand my intuition,but I have a lot of Pisces influence in my chart.

With the fixed stars, they are powerful stars. I have a first house 26 degree Sag Mars and I think with the stars conjunct nodes, it makes me kind of fearless when faced with injustice.Moreso as I get older and loose my inhibitions. I fight for the right of others, I stand up for those who are vulnerable (Venus/Merc in Aquarius), I put myself in quite challenging situations just so as I can learn and grow. People reading what I write sometimes think I'm a male, but I'm female with a warrior spirit, but I think that also comes from the Chiron aspects in my chart.

I've read Antares makes one devils advocate, I often find myself saying what others in the group are thinking, which doesn't always work out great for me, but I just don't like unfairness which also stems from childhood experiences that are carried in the unconsious.
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I have Moon conjunct Antares in the 12th -it doesn't get much more karmic than that!

In my previous life, I was a soldier who died a violent death in WWII.

This is a crazy star though. Antares is clearly associated with both benefic Jupiter and malefic Mars because the star is in Jupiter-ruled Sag. yet part of Mars-ruled Scorpius so that's why the meanings look like a hodge-podge description of both: Mars/Scorpio (death, power, violence, war, etc.) and Jupiter/Sag. (philosophy, fortune, etc.). It seems difficult to reconcile such contrasting qualities into a single influence, so I really don't know what to expect from this placement...

I do have a feeling of dread about it though, especially since T Saturn will be conjunct my Moon this December.
Horus, that sounds like a very sensitive spot to have the Moon. That will be a transit to watch, Saturn conjunct Moon in 12th. It will be square my Pisces Moon when it conjuncts my Node/Antares in 12th/Ascendant.
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Janoe, interesting experience. Your north node is in the 7th? Mine is in the first house. Would you also then have Neptune conjunct North node, though I do consider the outer planets, not all people do.

For me, I've read that I influence myself more with that aspect. North node in 7th I've read that others influence you more.
Yes, I also have Neptune conjunct node, in the 7th in this case...It definetely has a strong effect on my life. I tend to fall in love with men I can't have because they're either remote celebrities, married men, etc.... so far I'm having trouble answering to my node in 7th, as I pointed out in this thread: http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...ad.php?t=88205

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For me, my path is very spiritual in nature, I'm learning more about listening to energies other than the material 'everyday' ones. I'm doing a shamanic journey course soon. Its a life long lesson to understand my intuition,but I have a lot of Pisces influence in my chart.

With the fixed stars, they are powerful stars. I have a first house 26 degree Sag Mars and I think with the stars conjunct nodes, it makes me kind of fearless when faced with injustice.Moreso as I get older and loose my inhibitions. I fight for the right of others, I stand up for those who are vulnerable (Venus/Merc in Aquarius), I put myself in quite challenging situations just so as I can learn and grow. People reading what I write sometimes think I'm a male, but I'm female with a warrior spirit, but I think that also comes from the Chiron aspects in my chart.
I can very much relate to that... my Mars Chiron is in the 12th house, so I take it into consideration when I look at karmic aspects. When I did this hypnosis thing, it was crazy how much I felt like I was still that person that must have lived like a 1000 years ago or so. People were scared of me then and they're sometimes still scared of me today - warrior women don't have it so easy in our day and age.... I am slowly learning to have my anger issues in check, but people still perceive me as tense. Which is crazy considering my Cancer Moon (then again - conjunct Saturn so there you go....).
Speaking of which: I guess you have a Cancer SAturn as well - how do you deal with it?
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oh - I just took another look at your chart and realised just how much alike our charts are... sun, moon and the axis system is in different place, but all the slower elements are almost in the same spot.

So I was wondering: How does the tr Pluto opp Saturn play out in your life?
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Interesting!

I was always told ever since I was little that I have anger problems. Its only now, and since I spoke to a lady shaman, that I realise where it stems from. Natal Chiron trine Mars, and Chiron square Sun, Chiron in the 4th house. I'm reading alot about the 'mother wound' and parental influences on children, the messages that go into the unconscious and negative messages from parents that get internalised which later can emerge as anger/frustration/depression/apathy. Eg, a parent may never have faced their own internal wounds, so when the child expressed themselves and makes the parent uncomfortable, parent may deny the child's emotions. I think transit Uranus conjunct my natal Chiron is revealing this to me, insights coming like lightening.

Tr Pluto opp Saturn, seems to be kind of a long term earthquake rumbling steadily in the background. For me, its the destruction of all the structures I had in place in my life - it could be my understanding , again, of the roots of my childhood wounds. Its also external structures that I hold onto out of fear - my current place where I rent, I know the environment is now bad for me but I am afraid to move, though I know I will in next few months.

Pluto opp Saturn, with Saturn in Cancer, it may also be related to my mum and the insights I'm getting into our relationship. Saturn in Cancer in the 7th/8th house has always made relationships difficult for me, but its because I seek the love and security that I lacked in childhood - maybe that is the Saturn (time traveller) aspect that until I learn from the past, the lessons keep repeating themselves.

I agree, warrior women, or it could be called the divine feminine energy, does have a hard time in our society but it is increasing as people become more self aware. But, no one benefits if people keep themselves 'small' just so as not to make other people uncomfortable.
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Karmic implications of antares and aldebarren

There aren't any.

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Karmic implications of antares and aldebarren

There aren't any.

Jim

I love this. Some sites go ahead and tell you all the way you’re going to die with conjunctions to these stars without telling you any benefits as if we’re all not going to die some day. I’m good woth having a “sudden painful death” if I’ve achieved way more than most people. My name will never be forgotten and that’s okay
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Aldebaran. ....
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