cancer or leo?

Nightsky

Banned
That liking of pink sounds strange to me as moon child's always go for blue, silver or grey perhaps.

May be u have ur moon in libra?

Tell me more abt how you see things...or how you expect thing out of life...

Your hobbies, how u expect others to treat you, how you want to treat others, how you see friendship, work, what countries you like, what you fear of, that will give us a clue which sign each house falls on...to create a whole chart in mind...then we go accordingly...

It will be easier if we find out ur moon sign...don't confuse ur likes or dislike with just cancer sign.
 
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Nightsky

Banned
if we find ur moon sign and ur acendent sign...then we can find the hr of birth as the asc changes sign every 3 hrs or so..

To find ascendenc check these, you physical appearance resembling specific sign or so...
 

neptunian

Well-known member
That liking of pink sounds strange to me as moon child's always go for blue, silver or grey perhaps.

May be u have ur moon in libra?

Tell me more abt how you see things...or how you expect thing out of life...

Your hobbies, how u expect others to treat you, how you want to treat others, how you see friendship, work, what countries you like, what you fear of, that will give us a clue which sign each house falls on...to create a whole chart in mind...then we go accordingly...

It will be easier if we find out ur moon sign...don't confuse ur likes or dislike with just cancer sign.


I also like white,grey and blue. But pink is my favorite :) I wear grey,pink,white,black mostly.

In my dream, my grandfather said it is 9th of jul; that day moon is in libra. interesting.
people guess me as pisces or libra. the ones know me well think cancer or scorpio.

I want peace, spirituality and well being of my close ones in life most. I like to daydream and read about spiritual, mysterious things.
I don't like socialising much. I feel drained. I want a small circle of people. my mother, my best friends etc.
my hobbies again learning about spirituality, dancing,poetry, art,music,history.

I'm very kind but I really get angry with selfish or abusive people. I think a lot before talking. overthinking always. anxiety. also social anxiety to a certain extent. if there is a close friend, it disappears.
I expect others to treat me kind yet want them to give me space. I need emotional closeness and affection but also i need my space, my alone time.

I'm very considerate, expect others to do the same. I have intensity. too much happy or too much sad.
I'm impractical.

How i see friendship, i want affection from my friends and also my space and time when i need.
I keep in contact with my childhood friends.

I need a partner who is gonna make me more optimistic, travel with me. I want a kind person, but can't attract such a kind person so far. :) I don't want to travel alone.
What countries i like, i like old england and french towns. provence came to my mind also.

Fears; ocd (cleanliness) fear of something happening to my health. or my close ones.

work, i don't like formality much. boring. i want to a job related to spirituality or psychology.
i studied foreign languages. i don't work now. now i don't know what i should do. confused about career.

very bad relationship with the father figure. He makes me feel suffocated.

These are the things came to my mind. I hope we can find. Thanks sooo much Nightsky. :)
 

neptunian

Well-known member
if we find ur moon sign and ur acendent sign...then we can find the hr of birth as the asc changes sign every 3 hrs or so..

To find ascendenc check these, you physical appearance resembling specific sign or so...

I'm thirthy, but i look younger. If I say 16, they would believe. very thin. can't put on weight easily. my teeth is crooked. my front teeth noticeable.
 

neptunian

Well-known member
I hope I gave clear answers to your questions Nightsky. i hope i didn't give confusing answers.

Also i perceive my mother as stuck, in a diffciult situation, can't help herself, but strong person. and my brother is carefree.( adoptive family members of course)
 

Nightsky

Banned
To me i think you might be a leo sun /pisces rising with cancer moon with venus in libra. some one born between 21st june to 30th june.
 
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Nightsky

Banned
You might have a 4 as you birth number i.e, 4, 22,13


You seem to have a personality type of number 4 and the second number a 2 or a 5

22-06-1989
04-07-1989
13-07-1989
22-07-1989
04-08-1989
13-08-1989

Or a 5-08-1989


05-08-1989 could match with you to give a 5 and a 4 personality type.
 
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JUPITERASC

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Since I'm an adopted child, my birthdate is not known accurately.
my sun sign either is cancer or leo.
useful if you would state the data on which your birth is based
i.e
whether on medical records
or birth certificate
I don't have a chance to find my birth parents and learn;
so I'm trying horary.
sorry if asking this type of questions is not appropriate.
this type of question is not appropriate for horary
wrong. Kp astrology uses horary for btr.
that is misleading

kp astrology is Vedic sidereal :smile:
our horary boards are western tropical

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JUPITERASC

Well-known member
When I look at the chart, moon conjunct ascendant. This makes me think of cancer. Mars is the chart ruler, its last aspect with mercury which is in cancer received by moon.

What do you think? Could you please share your opinion?
guessing and speculation is fun but unreliable

IF the birth data
is AT ALL reliable
then
there is the option to use one of the many rectification methods
such as prenatal epoch


The Prenatal Epoch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGfhMNJPEsA
Read more on the prenatal epoch :smile:
here: https://juanestadella.com/Predictive_Astrology_Juan-Estadella_3rd_edition.pdf

How to install Polaris: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2aCu...
www.fadimazboudi.com

The horary chart that you casted can be used for birth time rectification.

Are you born in 1996 or 1984?
that is misleading :smile:

our horary boards are western tropical
with western tropical charts
and

western tropical horary

cannot use horary for birthtime rectification

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JUPITERASC

Well-known member
I'm using Kp astrology to answer the question.
KP Astrology is Vedic Sidereal

post the chart you are using to answer the question

There are 2 methods. The following infos I get from your chart: Ruling Planets are Sa, Ma, Me, Mo, Ra, Ke.
First method: Since we have 2 options (1. Cancer or 2. Leo), we just have to decide which option is the right one. Therefore I only use the RPs. Answer here would be Cancer.
2nd method is to do a birth time rectification: In 1989 Jupiter was in sidereal taurus sign till June 15. From June 16 Jupiter was in Gemini. Mercury is ruler of Gemini and is one of the RPs, hence we can delimit the time frame (June 16-end 1989).
For the right month we look if the Rps appear in the Sun sign. This would be from June 15 till August 15, October and December. If you are sure that you could only be Cancer or Leo, then we can exclude Oct. and Dec..
For the right day we have to examine:Moon's Sign+Starlord, Sun's Sign+Star+Sublord,Sun's Sublord should be connected to Moon's Sign or Starlord in some way, moon's sign+starlord should be linked to the RP Moon sign+star in both levels. At the end only 4 dates are left: 22.6.,23.6.,21.7. and 11.8.. So you could be born at one of these days. In 1989 Sun was in tropical Cancer from June 21 till July 22. That's why it's quite likely that you are Cancer Sun and not Leo.
..... from June 15 till August 15, October and December...

is vague :smile:

The right day

and also your ascendant sign

could be found out
but this takes much more time
and more informations about your life are needed.
i.e.

clearly an inappropriate question for horary

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neptunian

Well-known member
kalinka did not mention that KP horary uses VEDIC SIDEREAL :smile:

not western tropical


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Hi JUPITERASC

I know she used sidereal astrology. She meant sidereal gemini which is tropical cancer. I understand it.

Why are you so stubborn not giving a chance to such questions. Are you a taurus or taurus south node?:smile:

I believe we can ask such questions too. This is my opinion, that is your opinion. I think we can have different opinions.
 

neptunian

Well-known member
You might have a 4 as you birth number i.e, 4, 22,13


You seem to have a personality type of number 4 and the second number a 2 or a 5

22-06-1989
04-07-1989
13-07-1989
22-07-1989
04-08-1989
13-08-1989

Or a 5-08-1989


05-08-1989 could match with you to give a 5 and a 4 personality type.

Nightsky, omg :smile: Thanks a lot. i am gonna look at all these days to see which fits better.

Thank you soo much. You are wonderful.:love:
 

kalinka

Well-known member
1. The horary chart that was casted CAN answer the question: "Am I Cancer or Leo Sun sign?" even with western methods.
2. Kp astrology is vedic with sidereal zodiac but nevertheless Kp uses horary for btr.
3. Moreover, I mentioned it that I use Kp methods with sidereal zodiac for the btr. It's not necessarily to post any vedic sidereal chart that I used for the btr because all I needed are the Ruling Planets (also mentioned), which I got from the horary chart that the querent posted. If you really need the same chart in sidereal zodiac, I think you know how to calculate it.
4." from June 15 till August 15, October and December...is vague"...why???
 
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JUPITERASC

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Hi JUPITERASC
I know she used sidereal astrology.

She meant sidereal gemini which is tropical cancer.

I understand it.
Why are you so stubborn

not giving a chance to such questions.
Are you a taurus or taurus south node?:smile:
nothing to do with stubbonness
quite simply
horary astrology is not designed to answer your question
read SAHL :smile:

I believe we can ask such questions too.
This is my opinion, that is your opinion.
I think we can have different opinions.
you are entitled to your beliefs
 

JUPITERASC

Well-known member
1. The horary chart that was casted CAN answer the question:
"Am I Cancer or Leo Sun sign?" even with western methods.
you are entitled to an opinion

2. Kp astrology is vedic with sidereal zodiac but nevertheless Kp uses horary for btr.
3. Moreover, I mentioned it that I use Kp methods with sidereal zodiac for the btr. It's not necessarily to post any vedic sidereal chart that I used for the btr because all I needed are the Ruling Planets (also mentioned), which I got from the horary chart that the querent posted. If you really need the same chart in sidereal zodiac, I think you know how to calculate it.
4." from June 15 till August 15, October and December...is vague"...why???
as to why June 15 - August 15, October and December is vague
explain your reason HOW it is exact/precise :smile:

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JUPITERASC

Well-known member
You might have a 4 as you birth number i.e, 4, 22,13


You seem to have a personality type of number 4 and the second number a 2 or a 5

22-06-1989
04-07-1989
13-07-1989
22-07-1989
04-08-1989
13-08-1989

Or a 5-08-1989


05-08-1989 could match with you to give a 5 and a 4 personality type.
nothing to do with horary :smile:


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neptunian

Well-known member
you are entitled to an opinion


as to why June 15 - August 15, October and December is vague
explain your reason HOW it is exact/precise :smile:

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I want to share my opinion. It doesn't need to be exact. what is precise? I don't know my birthday accurately. This is a difficult situation. Kalinka and Nightsky helped me and shared their interpretations with me and it means me a lot to me. I'm happy that this forum is available. Is the outcome of every horary question is precise? This one doesn't need to be. Who knows, maybe the date is one of them. God knows.
 

JUPITERASC

Well-known member
I want to share my opinion.
we all are entitled to our opinions and to share those opinions
It doesn't need to be exact.
what is precise?
I don't know my birthday accurately.

This is a difficult situation.
realistically
reliable natal delineation
- at the very minimum
requires reliable time of birth on actual day of birth
Kalinka and Nightsky helped me
and shared their interpretations with me
and it means me a lot to me.
I'm happy that this forum is available.
that's great - I'm happy that you are happy
Is the outcome of every horary question is precise?
This one doesn't need to be.
It is the nature of an horary question
- and whether it is appropriate for horary
that is important
and
not whether the outcome is precise or not
Who knows, maybe the date is one of them.
God knows.
that is the key
horary doesn't know

i.e.
there is no way horary can answer your question

NEVERTHELESS
being adopted must be difficult
and so
since you are happy with non-horary speculation
then that's great
by the way
consider having your DNA tested
because
would be amazing if you discovered
a DNA match
that led to you finding your biological family members!
DNA is precise and exact

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Nightsky

Banned
nothing to do with horary :smile:


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Hi jupi,

Yes, it is not a horary. She has asked a question in horary and I have noticed that she is very desperately needing help. I just wanted to help her someway :) I hope that, with the personality number traits I could find a number that matches with her personality and with that we cast a chart and see which the planets sits in which sign that time.

Is it wrong to experiment? After all we all are here to learn and one can correct us when we are wrong.

Seems that you are in correcting mode today :D
 
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