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Savannah Guthrie

Savannah Guthrie is one of the main news anchors for NBC and has been since 2012. Her exact birth time is not known, so the published chart shows a noon birth. Guthrie has a bachelor's degree in journalism. She has a graduate law degree.

Despite her successful career, Guthrie has been involved in two alarming scandals. In an interview with a teenager, she verbally molested him on national TV for ostensibly wearing a red MAGA hat in support of Donald Trump. She pressured him to get him to express guilt and shame about false charges related to a major news event. After the real news came out the teen was cleared of all accusations. Every accusation was provably false. The teen is still in the process of suing countless news organizations over their false reporting and their hit job against the teenager.

Guthrie was the correspondent on a live interview of President Trump on October 14. In stark contrast to the press's softball treatment of Joe Biden, Guthrie launched a series of attacks against Trump. None of the interviewers asked Biden about the investigation into Hunter Biden's dealings whose news continues to mount in media fury. In contrast, Guthrie declared a series of false accusations against the Qanon group, then she demanded to know what Trump's involvement with the group was. Trump said he did not know about the accusations that Guthrie made. When Guthrie demanded that he believe her and condemn Qanon, he refused. He said he didn't believe her accusation, and offered what little he knew about the mysterious group.

Little is known about Qanon, except they were founded by a anonymous Washington insider who wants to publicize evils of the Washington elites. Qanon is also very critical of the mainstream media. Newsmax has thoroughly investigated all the evidence of Qanon's content online, and found that none of Guthrie's accusations were true. There was no evidence for any the wild claims made by Guthrie. It was treacherous attempt to harass and smear Trump on national TV. It is another nail in the coffin of mainstream media's reputation.

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In Guthrie's chart, we see a T-square embedded in a grand trine to yield a kite formation. Mars opposing Pluto with Sun square to both, is dangerous T-square that has been seen often in dangerous characters. It shows fierce determination to dominate. It is extremely aggressive, and it is usually ruthless. It suggests that Guthrie is tool of her id. Her most fierce drives are behind much of her action. This T-square shows a dangerous person who may be predatory.

An integral part is the Venus-Saturn-Pluto grand trine and the Venus-Mars-Saturn minor grand trine with both configurations pivoting on a Mars-Pluto opposition. She keeps her sado-masochistic tendencies under wraps. She is quite capable of cruelty.

The stellium Jupiter-Mercury-Neptune is opposed to Saturn, driven by the Saturn-Neptune opposition which is close. This might be helpful in the chart of an artist or an author of fiction, but in a journalist or a politician, it is scandalous and menacing. She is a bamboozler who is treacherous.

We don't know exact birth time, so the Moon position is in doubt, but if it is near the correct position, then the Saturn-Neptune opposition is square to the Sun/Moon midpoint, suggesting mental pathologies.
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Re: Savannah Guthrie

Interesting analysis.
She certainly irritated a lot of people, apparently she interrupted Trump 61 times!
If her birth time were morning, the moon would move back into Aries, and possibly to a conjunction of transiting retrograde mars. An Aries moon in fact might suit her better.
On the other hand, if the birth time were later, she would have a stubborn taurus moon close to conjunct transiting Uranus .
So, we might expect a Guthrie/Trump synastry to be explosive.
Actually, it isn't at all!
There is a jupiter/moon/south node conjunction. And a Jupiter/uranus, Pluto/south node.
There is nothing particularly negative in the composite either.
If we look at the progressed composite chart, there is actually a sun/moon/jupiter conjunction!
One conclusion is that by being so rudely aggressive, she helped Trump's image, by handling her with extreme patience.
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Re: Savannah Guthrie

I thought she was terrific at holding Donald Trump's feet to the fire.

If there's anything that drives Trump crazy, it's a woman who isn't deferential to him.

Guthrie has a strong chart:

Mars at 0 Aries (domiciled at the Aries Point) and the apex of a kite formation

Moon exalted in Taurus

Jupiter domiciled in Sagittarius

Venus and Uranus in mutual reception

Of course, some men just can't handle a strong, beautiful, smart woman who doesn't play Barbie to their Ken doll.
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They seem blissfully well matched. I like her Venus - Uranus mutual reception with Venus conjunct Aqua NN. She actively balanced him instead of only shadowing, soothing or parasiting; well that was her job it seems.
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Re: Savannah Guthrie

Samantha’s Sun is in 1st decan Capricorn ruled by Saturn. Her Saturn shows her well self-disciplined (unlike D.J.T. btw)
And quite social at the same time (Saturn trine Venus in 1st decan Aquarius) – suggests she really enjoys people and interviewing them.
Her Sun trine Moon shows a well balanced young woman unlike the man who took offense at her mannerisms, djt who has Sun opp Moon causing him perhaps to snap easily at anyone as he has no patience, no real Saturn (Saturn in Cancer square to Jupiter in Libra) His Saturn is also in the sign of detriment. I’d suggest for those who entertain the idea of reincarnation, he will need to learn patience in another lifetime, for he surely lacks this virtue this time around and made no headway in that department of life. Meanwhile, since Samantha’s Saturn is located at the 0 degree of Gemini, a mutable sign which loves to talk and take the initiative as a moderator well suits her (trine Venus sextile Mars)



But her Mars at 0 Aries may “seem” a bit assertive and aggressive to a man-child like DJT who clearly has “mommy issues” as I always maintained and is very "touchy" always believing people are attacking him even when it's their job to stay on track and nothing personal!




He is constantly insulting strong women, like Meghan Markle for example, Kamala Harris, and even today the uproar he caused yet once again, walking out of an agreed upon interview with the grande dame of Sixty Minutes, “Leslie Stahl” and having insulting things to say about her interviewing capabilities.
Amazing really, but not so amazing when we realize he truly does have “mommy tantrum issues”….likely from his own mother who sent him away as an unruly teenager to the “rich man’s reform school for boys” i.e. Military School. I think he always blamed his mother for that although outwardly he realized it was the better for him and certainly for his parents.


Leslie Stahl interview prior to trump stomping out as an aggrieved spoiled child might have done:
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Re: Savannah Guthrie

Sun/Mars/Pluto T-square using her position on television to try to destroy a teenage boy is not strong, at least not in any good way. Would we discuss whether a serial killer was strong because he attacked the unsuspecting?

Jupiter/Mercury/Neptune opposed to Saturn -- lying on national television in an effort to smear the president of the United States is not strong. She was rude and wrong and she was caught red-handed by Newsmax.

It is a matter of history now. The teenager is suing the mainstream media and the nation can see what the mainstream media is. Strong as in smell.
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Strong, beautiful, smart women can be strong without being rude. She was very rude.
I didn't think Guthrie was rude, given her job. I thought she was doing her job. It's not her job to let Trump steamroller over her, the way he's done with other moderators.

Funny how tough investigative reporting and rudeness is fine for a man, notably if he's on Fox News. Ann Coulter and Laura Ingraham not rude? A president who cannot tolerate a tough interview is like the schoolyard bully who goes crying home to Mama when the weaker kids stick up for themselves.

But please-- so Donald Trump isn't rude? Big double-standard there. He can't stand strong smart women. I think it's terribly rude for him to call them bad names. Here's a partial list of what he's called women in politics for anyone who missed some of them.
https://www.axios.com/a-list-of-trum...89457fbc1.html

The Biden "scandal" was repeatedly de-fanged months ago-- just in case anyone wasn't following it closely. QAnon is a repeatedly debunked conspiracy theory. Please do not peddle it as "truth."

Guthrie's chart shows a woman warrior, notably if her moon is in Aries.

I especially admire someone who shows a lot of spunk with natal sun square Pluto. Usually these people were bullied as children and grow up not trusting the universe to support them. It makes for a lot of insecurity in most people with this aspect. If Guthrie overcame this astro-handicap, more power to her.

Cary, it is a misuse of astrology to viciously weaponize someone's chart against her. You have no idea what Guthrie is like in her private life.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savannah_Guthrie
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It's very interesting that Trump's Mercury is @ 8Cancer, opposing her Sun @ 4Cap. So her chart makes a Grand Cross to his Mercury, which we saw in action during that volatile debate. She came asa him from all sides and didn't even try to hide her anger and resentment.

People here are saying she 'held his feet to the fire' etc...but was that her role or job, as a moderator in a Town Hall debate?

He was essentially debating her from the moment the show began.

What a contrast to Biden's Town Hall. His moderator treated him like an honored guest and spoke to him calmly and politely. Even when questioning him, he did so respectfully, unlike Savannah.


The Presidential Debate Commission pretends to be impartial and unbiased. But every single one of their 'moderators' are pro Biden and strongly anti-Trump, and it shows.
Possibly this is because Biden doesn't fabricate so much information, dodge important questions, interrupt interviewers, or insult journalists ongoingly.

I dunno. Maybe Biden's Scorpio planets in the 12th house show someone dedicated to improving the lives of less fortunate people.

Maybe if the candidate is civil, the interviewer has less need to hold his feet to the fire.

The irony, of course, is how repeatedly Trump interrupted Biden during their first debate. Presumably the Trump fans were fine with that.
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Sun/Mars/Pluto T-square using her position on television to try to destroy a teenage boy is not strong, at least not in any good way. Would we discuss whether a serial killer was strong because he attacked the unsuspecting?

Jupiter/Mercury/Neptune opposed to Saturn -- lying on national television in an effort to smear the president of the United States is not strong. She was rude and wrong and she was caught red-handed by Newsmax.

It is a matter of history now. The teenager is suing the mainstream media and the nation can see what the mainstream media is. Strong as in smell.
It isn't a moderator's job to be rude and put the interviewed person's "feet to the fire".
The idea of the Town Hall was to hear the man on the street ask questions, not to hear a journalist accuse the President of whatever.
I repeat, you can be strong without being rude. She was definitely out of place.
Had she behaved that way with Biden maybe she would have been less acceptable.



But her Mars at 0 Aries may “seem” a bit assertive and aggressive to a man-child like DJT

Also, about her Aries moon, it depends on her birth time, she could have a Taurus bull moon.

Consider some of the women working for Trump's administration, from Kayleigh McEnany to Sarah Huckabee Sanders to Hope Hicks and Mercedes Schlapp and Kellyanne Conway to name some of the more prominent ones.


in case you missed this news in June:

Nations that empower women are much wealthier, safer, and much more politically stable.
President Donald J. Trump
EMPOWERING WOMEN TO PROMOTE PEACE: The Trump Administration is releasing new plans to enhance the safety, leadership, and meaningful participation of women in political and civic life worldwide.

Today, the United States Departments of Defense, Homeland Security, State, and the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) released their plans to advance the 2019 United States Strategy on Women, Peace, and Security (WPS).
These plans outline steps the Federal Government is taking to enhance women’s role in preventing, resolving, and recovering from conflict.
The United States understands that societies where women are empowered are more stable and peaceful, both economically and politically.
The Trump Administration remains committed to expanding the role of women in the establishment and maintenance of peace, security, and prosperity throughout the world.


Sorry but Guthrie was rude and out of line in her job as moderator.
Hitting on an adversary you don't approve of does not justify her behaviour.
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Please get back to astrology. I have deleted the non-astrological posts. It's OK to mention personal background or your opinion on Savannah Guthrie as LONG as it is tied into SOMETHING astrological.

Back to astrology,

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I thought she was terrific at holding Donald Trump's feet to the fire.

If there's anything that drives Trump crazy, it's a woman who isn't deferential to him.
Saturn is opposed to the Jupiter/Mercury/Neptune conjunction shows that she betrays her journalistic ethics and the ground rules for a moderator of a town hall meeting. She has extended the shame to the Presidential Debate Commission who probably didn't expect her assault on the candidate (if they did, they are not long for this world in the professional sense). Central to journalistic ethics is the goal of being nonpartisan and fair not disrespectful and dishonest. She turned it into a debate with Guthrie alone and an onslaught of lies that were quickly debunked by Newsmax.

Trump has a minor grand trine of Moon/Mars/Jupiter. During the 2016 campaign, his campaign was run by a woman, and it is a first that a woman has run a winning presidential campaign. Most of his surrogates during the campaign were women, and his surrogates were excellent without exception. The surrogates that I mention are all women who are distinguished for their brains and guts and accomplishments. Trump was not driven crazy by this. On the other hand, he was massively appreciative. All of these women have been habitually maligned by the progressive forces who hate Trump. His minor grand trine shows advantageous and free-wheeling relationships with women.

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Guthrie has a strong chart:

Mars at 0 Aries (domiciled at the Aries Point) and the apex of a kite formation

Moon exalted in Taurus

Jupiter domiciled in Sagittarius
Fransisco Assis of Brazil had Mars in exaltation and Venus dignified by rulership, yet he raped and killed at least nine women before he was apprehended in 1998.

Susanne Albrecht was on the German Most Wanted list until she was apprehended in 1990. Her terrorist organization was responsible for more than twenty deaths, and she was personally implicated in at least two. She has Jupiter domiciled conjunct Sun and Saturn in exaltation.

Andreas Baader has Jupiter in exaltation and Mercury domiciled, but he was a gang leader who is responsible for bank robberies that caused death and maiming to numerous people.

Bernard Baranton had Sun domiciled, Mercury in exaltation, and Jupiter domiciled, Saturn domiciled, Venus domiciled, yet he murdered three prostitutes in France.

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Of course, some men just can't handle a strong, beautiful, smart woman who doesn't play Barbie to their Ken doll.
When I pointed out her Sun/Mars/Pluto T-square, I did not in any way liken her to a lifeless lump of plastic. I have never met a man who played with Barbie and Ken dolls. Perhaps they exist, but I have yet to meet one. Barbie and Ken are not a male conspiracy against the female gender. They were probably designed by female designers who have insight into what female children want. Some women can't handle the fact that there are two genders of human on planet earth. What is the astrological basis for your implication that a man is unqualified to read her chart?

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I didn't think Guthrie was rude, given her job. I thought she was doing her job. It's not her job to let Trump steamroller over her, the way he's done with other moderators.
Her Sun is square Mars and Pluto who are both in opposition to each other. First of all, moderators are moderate. They do not have an axe to grind. That does not imply a moratorium on candidate passion and bias. We expect candidate passion and bias. When a moderator makes the event about herself, and she attacks the candidate with lies, she has betrayed her ethics and her duty.

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Funny how tough investigative reporting and rudeness is fine for a man, notably if he's on Fox News. Ann Coulter and Laura Ingraham not rude? A president who cannot tolerate a tough interview is like the schoolyard bully who goes crying home to Mama when the weaker kids stick up for themselves.
A T-square with Sun at the apex is assertive and aggressive beyond bounds. It is offensive and ruthless. There is the implication that the male gender is guilty of something.

Ann Coulter has a stellium which includes Sun/Mercury/Mars. Ann Coulter is aggressive, argumentative, rude, if you like, and very, very formidable. She is hated by the Left, but she is loved by very many men. She has found success and profit in selling her popular books, and men are the majority of her fans. Wherever Ann goes, she is adored by men who take the time to thank her for her contribution. She is a favorite author and pundit to many, many men. So, what was your point about men and Ann Coulter?

Nobody would choose Ann Coulter as a moderator in a debate. She is openly and vociferously biased and opinionated. In contrast to Guthrie, her face is not frozen into a smile in order to delude her public that she is not angry and partisan.

Laura Ingraham has Mercury square to Mars/Uranus/Pluto, and she was an attorney before she was a political commentator. She is a lovely host of a program that is based on her political opinions. She has never been deceitful about this. She is openly biased and opinionated. She also admired by men. Ingraham will interrupt her guests if they digress or become long-winded because she has a show to run and a schedule to keep. That may be rude, but it is the norm with show hosts who have a limited time slot.

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The Biden "scandal" was repeatedly de-fanged months ago-- just in case anyone wasn't following it closely. QAnon is a repeatedly debunked conspiracy theory. Please do not peddle it as "truth."
Transiting Jupiter is conjunct both Pluto and Saturn. Expanded investigation into criminal activity. It was never "debunked" or "de-fanged". It was ignored by the mainstream media and dismissed by leftist pundits for its potential for embarrassment. The seizure of an abandoned Hunter Biden laptop yields so many emails and photos that they have not yet been completely examined. The former Chief of Police for NYC who examined the laptop has asked, "Why are these people not in handcuffs?"

Transiting Mars is semi-sextile transiting Neptune. No one is peddling a QAnon conspiracy theory. It was Guthrie who accused QAnon of being a cult who accused the Democrats of Satan-worship and pedophilia which was exposed immediately by Newsmax as a fictitious fabrication.

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Guthrie's chart shows a woman warrior, notably if her moon is in Aries.
You previously said she had Moon in Taurus, and you credited her with an exaltation as a result.

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I especially admire someone who shows a lot of spunk with natal sun square Pluto. Usually these people were bullied as children and grow up not trusting the universe to support them. It makes for a lot of insecurity in most people with this aspect. If Guthrie overcame this astro-handicap, more power to her.
Sun-square-Pluto. Most of the violent offenders in prison were violently abused as they grew up in their families. It does not excuse Guthrie at all.

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Cary, it is a misuse of astrology to viciously weaponize someone's chart against her. You have no idea what Guthrie is like in her private life.
Sun-square-Mars. Her chart is revealed for all to see. Everyone is free to examine and interpret. You have praised her own viciousness. She verbally molested a teenage boy on national TV, and he has responded with copious lawsuits. You have implied that men are no good, and that extends to me.
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