david starling
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I'm with Greybeard on this one. I go with the geometry despite Element or Modality.
ds, do you know who are his lawyers (and their birth chart)? Historically speaking, he straight up robbed Steve Job's inventions and innovations.
The only difference between the sidereal and tropical zodiacs is 24°08'. The interrelationships of the planets (aspects) do not change at all. Their angular distance to meridian and ascendant remains the same.
0 Aries 00 tropical is 5 Pisces 52 sidereal....24°8' of difference. That's the only difference at all in the two...24°8'. Nothing else changes...well, the rulerships of course, no minor point.
But in regard to aspects and the orientation of planets to angles, nothing changes.
So why not choose one or the other and stick with it?
I think that in some ancient scroll it says that a man can't serve two masters. Seems to me that bouncing back and forth between zodiacs would tend to breed confusion and indecision.
It was Rudy who characterized him as "greedy", not I.
Now I'm wondering if having the Moon opposite the Moon-sign ruler is an especially callous placement. That's the tropical Aspect.
There's no certainty as to whose chart is under discussionGood chart for comparing sidereal against tropical.
Here's why:
Moon is supreme in this chart. Lord of the Ascendant, elevated (only 3°23´ from MC), handle planet of a striking bucket pattern.... The chart pattern is "single-minded", and Moon shows where that one-pointedness is directed.
With such a predominant Moon you should be able to discern between Pisces and Aries.
There's no certainty as to whose chart is under discussion
Here's why:
Ascendant is extremely time sensitive
and
rating of the reliability of the source of official time of birth
is a Rodden Rating of "A"
NOT "AA"
"AA" is the most accurate rating
https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Help:RR
"A" rating = Data as quoted by the person, kin, friend, or associate.
These data all come from someone's memory
family legend, or hearsay.
The quote may be substantiated by a qualifying statement such as
"My grandfather wanted me to be born on his birthday
and my mother said that I almost made it.
I was born three minutes before midnight."
When the information comes from an astrologer's client
it is considered reliable, since a client is investing money
for the astrologer's time and expertise.
When the quote is from a public figure given in public
it may be questionable.
Please keep in mind that public figures, especially politicians
answer a question in public to be accommodating
therefore, the time given may not be accurate.
When the quote is from one of a group of people who were asked casually,
it might be questionable.
Rounded-off time such as 6 AM or midnight might also be questionable.
regarding this particular chart
the time of Bills natal is definitely rounded up
or rounded down to exactly 22:00
AND
IS FROM MEMORY
so could be even more off - perhaps by hours
chart is unreliable
Classic "Sling-pattern" works in both trop and sid. The biggest difference is the Moon-sign, but either way, Moon opposite Mars, and the Moon rules the Asc-sign. Also in both, Jupiter is in Leo, in H2, expansion of wealth, both Whole-sign and Placidus.
It is what I call a bucket pattern. Moon is highly focalized. Note the cross formed by the Venus-Saturn and Jupiter with the Moon-Mars as upright.
Any chance that Gates will purchase an NBA team in 12/12 transit?
No, according to 12/12, Gates would excel at shooting guard spot.
Why you gotta razz me about 12/12?
Bro no offense, I'm just a student of ALL branch Astrology. What is the significators of Gates' potent wealth in 12/12, ds? It would be the lot of fortune from monolithic teaching as explained already in previous posts. ds, you're too humility about your own invention. 12/12 is too underapriciated, THAT'S why we should learn 12/12.