No promise in natal?

Is there any hope?

Hi everyone. I am new here and want to ask a question. I libra sun with libra rising and never married. As a libra person, ı want to be couple and be family. But ı guess my natal chart dont give marriage ( ı am not profesional but can read chart a very little). I am 34 years old and afraid of not able to marry:/ can anyone look and say is there a chance for me to marry? Thanx

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TO receive some answer, you will have to post a chart. No one can tell you anything with simply Sun sign and Rising sign.

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Sorry i edited. now my birth chart can seen. thanx

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No answer from anyone please?

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I don't think a chart shows lack of marriage. It's a choice that can be done regardless of your chart. So the problem here might be psychological more rather than anything else.
For the sake of the experiment, how old was your mother when she met your father or married him?

ardentika said:

I don't think a chart shows lack of marriage. It's a choice that can be done regardless of your chart. So the problem here might be psychological more rather than anything else.
For the sake of the experiment, how old was your mother when she met your father or married him?

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Hi. My mother married 26 years old.

So is my chart gives marriage in some day?

Sarincan said:

So is my chart gives marriage in some day?

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Generally when looking for marriage or long term unions in a woman's chart, the most tell-tell sign is Sun in aspect to Jupiter. Harmonious aspects are more favorable, but hard aspects work just as well. Since you don't have jupiter aspects to sun. You can look for some other things- such as it is positive that chiron is not in a venus ruled sign. Your chiron is in gemini.
You do have venus in wide conjunction to uranus. And since venus rules your ascendant, this placement regardless of being a wide conjunction is probably strong in your personality. Since hard aspects between venus/uranus are a divorce aspect, relationships work only if there is a great deal of personal space and respect for each others independence.
If the relationship is unusual in some way, it will be more successful.
I think if you desire marriage you can make it happen, however perhaps you may not want it once you have it. As once the excitement wears off your interest might as well with this aspect as well as venus being in sagittarius.

ashriia said:

Generally when looking for marriage or long term unions in a woman's chart, the most tell-tell sign is Sun in aspect to Jupiter. Harmonious aspects are more favorable, but hard aspects work just as well. Since you don't have jupiter aspects to sun. You can look for some other things- such as it is positive that chiron is not in a venus ruled sign. Your chiron is in gemini.
You do have venus in wide conjunction to uranus. And since venus rules your ascendant, this placement regardless of being a wide conjunction is probably strong in your personality. Since hard aspects between venus/uranus are a divorce aspect, relationships work only if there is a great deal of personal space and respect for each others independence.
If the relationship is unusual in some way, it will be more successful.
I think if you desire marriage you can make it happen, however perhaps you may not want it once you have it. As once the excitement wears off your interest might as well with this aspect as well as venus being in sagittarius.

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Thanks for the answer. Yes ı am independent and personel space is very important for me. I love being couple but as ı said personel space and freedom must have. My venus is no angel and my moon is balsamic. I read some articles that when venus is no angel and moon balsamic there is no marriage. But your post give me hope maybe it can happen thanks again.

Sarincan said:

So is my chart gives marriage in some day?

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Sarincan said:

Hi everyone. I am new here and want to ask a question. I libra sun with libra rising and never married. As a libra person, ı want to be couple and be family. But ı guess my natal chart dont give marriage ( ı am not profesional but can read chart a very little). I am 34 years old and afraid of not able to marry:/ can anyone look and say is there a chance for me to marry? Thanx

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04-26-2012, 04:06 AM
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Delineating Marriage (Medieval Method)
This is very intriguing subject isn't it?

Well, I must mention in the very beginning in explaining the methods here that they are of medieval astrology type (Bonatti, Abu Ali, Al Khayat and etc.).
To say that the method is 'Traiditional' is really using very wide range of time span in which different techniques for delineating marriage were used.
For example, the Hellenistic Astrologer's (Valens, Dorotheus and etc.) have used methods on their own, methods which I'll probably (not even later) not explain on this thread, but we can open another thread for that matter.
As this section of Traditional Astrology is quite new and in its beginnings, we now trow out the techniques here and there and title them as "Traditional". I hope that in the future we can make sub sections of traditional astrology, such as: "Medieval Astrology", "Hellenistic Astrology", Renaissance Astrology" and etc..

There are certain rules in Medieval Astrology compiled which can give quite good and workable methods for delineating marriage. The rules one can learn for a short period of time, but the practice is what is needed in order these rules to become second nature of the astrologer's intuitive tool in delineating such things as Marriage in the chart. This is what I would like to do on this thread: to practice as much charts as I/we will have the time to do it.


The Technique

The Compound Almuten is what is very practical thing in almost all methods used in medieval delineation. It seems that Bonatti and other medievals were very fond on Compound Almutens.
I will first give delineation for male charts, and in some later post will explain the delineation for female charts.

Finding the Compound Almuten for Marriage:

Find the Rulers of all 5 dignities for these places:

1. 7th house cusp

2. Lord of the 7th house

3. Planets in 7th house (if any)

4. Moon

5. Venus

6. Part of Marriage (According to Hermes) (ASC + VE - SA) for Men.

The Planet which gets most points over these places is Almuten of Marriage.
But consider also if there are impediments to these places.
If there is affliction to 7th house (by some Malefic's square or opposition), to the Moon (aspect, combust, cadent, retrograde and etc.)

See if one of the individiaul Almutens over these places is joined to the Lord of the Ascendant or its Almuten or the Lord of the 7th or its Almuten.
If they are in trine or sextile, and if especially in reception, then the native will rejoice in living beautiful life with his wife according to his desire.

But if the aspects were without reception, or if the aspects were square or opposition, then the significations will be judged lower.

Bonatti:
Quote:
But if the lord of the Ascendant were joined to the lord of the 7''', so that the former were lighter than the latter, it signifies that the native will want to copulate with women. If indeed the 7'h sign were Cancer or Scorpio or
Pisces or there were a conjunction of the lord of the 7
th or its Almuten with the lord of the first or its Almuten in these (signs) or from these (signs) or with one of them, it signifies that the native will have many wives or a great number of other women. If however you find the contrary, you are able to judge otherwise."

Example:


This is the chart of Akihito, Emperor of Japan

His chart is given on astrodatabank site as a chart of a man with successful marriage.

First we make Compound Almuten for these places:

1. 7th House Cusp at 28 Gemini:
Mercury 5, 3,
Saturn 3, 2
Jupiter 3
Sun 1

2. Ruler of 7th, Mercury in 16 Sag
Jupiter 5, 3
Sun 3
Saturn 3
Venus 2
Moon 1

3. Planets in 7th - there are no planets here

4. Moon 20 Pisces
Jupiter 5
Venus 4, 3
Mars, 3, 2, 1
Moon 3

5. Venus 15 Aquarius
Saturn 5, 3
Mercury, 3, 1
Jupiter 3, 2

6 Part of Marriage at 29 Sag
Jupiter 5, 3
Sun 3
Saturn 3, 1
Mars 2

Total:
Mercury 12
Saturn 20
Jupiter 29

No need to calculate further, Jupiter is Almuten of Marriage.
Look how strong is that Jupiter up there on MC.
He is receiving the Sun by sextile and the Part of Marriage on the Ascendant.

7th house cusp not impeded.
Its lord - Mercury, cadent (but in the first sign), not afflicted by Malefic's square or opposition, not by combustion.
Moon - not afflicted.
Venus - Saturn receives here in Aquarius.
Part of Marriage not afflicted, but indeed highlightened by ASC and Sun.

Lord (and also Almuten) of the 1st, and the Lord (and also Almuten) of the 7th are in Sextile. Jupiter receives Mercury.

Quite fortunate chart for marriage.


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