Trump Lost! *No memes*

[david starling]

Having obviously lost the 2020 Presidential Election, Trump is now engaged in attempting to discredit the ENTIRE election system ITSELF. This is like losing in a game of chess, refusing to topple his king in acknowledgement of his defeat, then knocking the entire board to the floor and shouting, "This game was rigged!", with no legally verifiable evidence.

No memes allowed, to avoid the tedium of constant Fact-checking, and the shrinking of the text. Please be prepared to verify your sources of information if asked to do so. Also, no huge font--just say what you need to say without all the fanfare.

[tikana]

Lets hope this bs willbe over soon

[david starling]

Originally Posted by tikana

Lets hope this bs willbe over soon

Depends on Trump.

[tikana]

Originally Posted by david starling

Depends on Trump.

i wish movie teatherw would be open daily so we can all watch the "one flew over the white house's nest" live

[Thirdteenth]

Originally Posted by david starling

Depends on Trump.

Well clasp on to those seatbelts tight cause it’s going to be a full on-going series with no finale in sight!

[david starling]

Originally Posted by Thirdteenth

Well clasp on to those seatbelts tight cause it’s going to be a full on-going series with no finale in sight!

He'll get dumped by the Republican politicians AFTER the Georgia Senate races.

They still need him to rally his base for that one last thing.

[david starling]

Personally, I expect all of "this bs" to stop by December 17th at the latest, the day Saturn ingresses Aquarius.

[david starling]

I imagine that the Biden Inauguration will be enthusiastically celebrated.

And that's an understatement.

[david starling]

Biden gained 87 votes in the Wisconsin recount. That recount cost the Trump campaign $3 million.

Tomorrow, Wisconsin will officially declare Biden the winner of its 10 Electoral Votes.

There's a report that none of the remaining Trump campaign lawsuits could have the effect of preventing Trump's loss of the 2020 Election.

[chiamaria]

Originally Posted by david starling

Biden gained 87 votes in the Wisconsin recount. That recount cost the Trump campaign $3 million.

Tomorrow, Wisconsin will officially declare Biden the winner of its 10 Electoral Votes.

There's a report that none of the remaining Trump campaign lawsuits could have the effect of preventing Trump's loss of the 2020 Election.

I don't get how that is even possible at this point in the counting. All the votes should have come in by 3rd November and no new votes should be in after that, so, in theory, the amount of votes for each candidate should stay exactly the same. So, how is it that Biden gets an extra 87? Were they that sloppy with counting in the beginning? In that case, whoever was counting the votes on 3rd November should be fired and replaced with those who are actually responsible and thorough. OR, Biden got an extra 87 votes in much the same way he did back in 3rd/4th November, which was via cheating.

There was quite a lot of Trump voters who actually went and checked their voting status and noticed that their vote hadn't been registered at all. That is just one sign of many ways that cheating took place. Additionally, some Trump voters rocked up at voting booths, only to be told that they'd apparently already voted! News to them hey? I think a person would know if they'd voted yet or not. A lot of people have come forward as witnesses and signed affidavits. Trump has won in a landslide, and it will be exposed real soon. If Trump had legitimately lost, then there would have been no reason to cheat on such a grand scale to begin with. I'm just impatient about the fact that it hasn't been exposed sooner but I know these things take time if proof is to be presented the right way.

[Shanti]

President Donald Trump joined Fox News on Sunday morning for a more than 45-minute interview, the first since Election Day
He accused his FBI and Justice Department of potentially being involved in 'rigging' the election for Joe Biden
'The FBI and Department of Justice, I don't know, maybe they're involved – but how people are allowed to get away from this with this stuff is unbelievable'
Trump also claimed, without evidence, that even Democrats think he won

Transiting Neptune stationary yesterday. Squaring Trump's Uranus 10th.

Delusional. No evidence at all. His own incompetence is the cause of the Biden win. Hard pill to swallow.

[david starling]

If one starts with the logical fallacy that Trump couldn't possibly lose in a free and fair election, his loss then becomes entirely inexplicable.

The reason there's no legally credible evidence that this election was "rigged" on a massive enough scale to have prevented Trump from losing it, is because no such rigging occurred.

Libertarian Party candidate Jo Jorgensen obviously siphoned off the votes Trump needed to win in the close-Election swing-States.

Trump's insistent and erroneous claim that he would have a "landslide" victory, misled those who preferred him to Biden, and caused them to believe that voting Libertarian would send a message without hurting Trump's chances.

But, the numbers show otherwise: In the hotly contested swing-States, the perfectly legal votes for the Libertarian were easily more than enough to ensure Trump's losses.

[david starling]

Applying "Occam's razor", a philosophical and scientific dictum that considers the less complicated theory to be superior to a more complicated, competing theory, gives us the correct answer: Trump lost due to overconfidence and a third-party "spoiler".

[Osamenor]

Originally Posted by chiamaria

I don't get how that is even possible at this point in the counting. All the votes should have come in by 3rd November and no new votes should be in after that, so, in theory, the amount of votes for each candidate should stay exactly the same.

That's not true. Mail in ballots may arrive after election day. Whether to count the mail in ballots that arrive after election day depends on state law, but in most states, including all of the states that became battlegrounds in this election, mail in ballots that arrive after election day must be counted if they're postmarked by election day.

And even if all votes were in by election day, it takes longer than one day to count them all. When a significant percentage of the ballots are mail in, as they were in this election, and when who voted absentee is skewed to one party and who voted at the polls is skewed to the other, it's to be expected that the amount of votes for each candidate will skew different ways at different points in the counting.

[Cary2]

Originally Posted by david starling

Having obviously lost the 2020 Presidential Election, Trump is now engaged in attempting to discredit the ENTIRE election system ITSELF. This is like losing in a game of chess, refusing to topple his king in acknowledgement of his defeat, then knocking the entire board to the floor and shouting, "This game was rigged!", with no legally verifiable evidence.

No memes allowed, to avoid the tedium of constant Fact-checking, and the shrinking of the text. Please be prepared to verify your sources of information if asked to do so. Also, no huge font--just say what you need to say without all the fanfare.

Not true. Your meme is Hate Trump and Blame Trump.

When he was replacing Ruth Bader Ginsberg, many Democratic officials said that it was unconstitutional for him to pick a justice so soon. That was a lie. There's not a shred of truth to condemnations like that.

You have implied the same about his court actions and his appeals. He has every right. A huge portion of the electorate also considers the election phony, so it is not all Trump. Those electorates depend on patriots to fight for free elections. There is tremendous evidence for vote fraud, and Trump's team is not the only one pressing for law suits.

So you don't have a leg to stand on in blaming Trump for exercising his right and protecting our constitution. Your meme is those lousy Trump voters. First they vote opposite of me, now they don't trust me or the Democrats. Democrats love to hear such things, but that doesn't prove a thing.

Not long ago, H. Clinton declared publicly that Biden should not accept the results of the election if he doesn't win. In 2016, she insisted that Trump could not do the same thing when she was afraid he would.

[Cary2]

Originally Posted by david starling

Applying "Occam's razor", a philosophical and scientific dictum that considers the less complicated theory to be superior to a more complicated, competing theory, gives us the correct answer: Trump lost due to overconfidence and a third-party "spoiler".

The voting process decides, not you. Trump's voters love their candidate. Biden's voters have no love for Biden. They vote their hate. They voted against Trump, not for Biden.

The Democrats did not make gains in Congress; they lost ground big time. When there is a big turnover in Congress parallel to a presidential election, it has never happened that the president of the lucky party loses. Never in history. It defies common sense.

Democrats claimed they would deliver a Blue Wave. They touted Biden would win by a landslide. They said they would sweep the Congress. But they pushed, pushed, pushed for mail-in voting despite all the evidence against it. The press claimed that there had never been any case of voter fraud. The MSM lies. Just as Hillary's DNC stuck it to Bernie Sanders with the big cheat, so they wanted to cheat this election. Biden and his son are crooks. Harris failed to prosecute pedophile priests because she took the bribe from the church. The Dems feel so superior about supporting these two crooks.

When the Democrats are moderate, they usually win, but when they veer Left, they lose elections. This has never failed. Check it out. See Dukakis. See Humphries. Veer toward socialism and communism, and you will lose your shirt at election time.

The polls were so wrong it was silly. The Big Cheat. We must stop it

[Dirius]

Democrats 2016: OMG!! RUSSIA INTERVENED IN OUR ELECTION! FRAUD! FRAUD!

Democrats 2020: OMG!! ELECTIONS ARE SAFE AND FAIR SHUT UP! NO FRAUD!

[Cary2]

Originally Posted by Dirius

Democrats 2016: OMG!! RUSSIA INTERVENED IN OUR ELECTION! FRAUD! FRAUD!

Democrats 2020: OMG!! ELECTIONS ARE SAFE AND FAIR SHUT UP! NO FRAUD!

LOL. They want everyone to shut up now, too. The MSM is not interviewing the poll watchers who now testify under oath. They want to promote Biden, not practice journalism.

[david starling]

Originally Posted by Cary2

The voting process decides, not you. Trump's voters love their candidate. Biden's voters have no love for Biden. They vote their hate. They voted against Trump, not for Biden.

The Democrats did not make gains in Congress; they lost ground big time. When there is a big turnover in Congress parallel to a presidential election, it has never happened that the president of the lucky party loses. Never in history. It defies common sense.

Democrats claimed they would deliver a Blue Wave. They touted Biden would win by a landslide. They said they would sweep the Congress. But they pushed, pushed, pushed for mail-in voting despite all the evidence against it. The press claimed that there had never been any case of voter fraud. The MSM lies. Just as Hillary's DNC stuck it to Bernie Sanders with the big cheat, so they wanted to cheat this election. Biden and his son are crooks. Harris failed to prosecute pedophile priests because she took the bribe from the church. The Dems feel so superior about supporting these two crooks.

When the Democrats are moderate, they usually win, but when they veer Left, they lose elections. This has never failed. Check it out. See Dukakis. See Humphries. Veer toward socialism and communism, and you will lose your shirt at election time.

The polls were so wrong it was silly. The Big Cheat. We must stop it

Cary, aren't voters allowed to "vote their hate", or dislike of personality, style, and/or (to me, most importantly), policies?

I was joking that a vote for Biden t-shirt should have had his picture with the caption: Vote For Me Because I'm NOT Trump!

This was definitely an anti-Trump movement by Democrats. Biden was just an "okay", moderate Democratic candidate with the best chance to possibly win a close race in the battleground States. The Democrats put a LOT of effort into convincing registered Democrats to vote nationwide, despite Biden being a relatively unappealing candidate. And, Party loyalty was high in both major Parties. For that reason, there was a huge turnout in terms of number of votes cast.

Since there are about 7 million more registered Democrats than Republicans, and the independent voters were about half leaning towards one Party or the other, I correctly predicted way back, that Trump would lose the national Popular Vote by 6+ million votes on that basis alone.


As you say, there was no Blue Wave, but there WAS a not-Trump-again wave. And, there was an attractive Libertarian Party candidate. Those account for the relatively close Biden victories in Arizona, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.

About two-thirds of the votes for the Libertarian were votes that would have gone to Trump if she hadn't been on the ballots, and that alone would have enabled him to win the Electoral College.

You may recall that Ralph Nader was blamed for taking Democratic votes away from Al Gore in the EXTREMELY close and Election-deciding race in Florida in 2000; and, the strong Green Party candidate Jill Stein was blamed for taking away badly needed votes from Hillary in 2016. So, "spoilers", as third-party candidates are often described, are nothing new.

Since nearly the entire focus this Election was on the Presidency, there was much less Democratic concentration on the House and Senate races, and no spoilers there, which accounts for the wins for Republicans in that area. Many Democrats voted ONLY as part of the not-Trump movement, and didn't even bother to vote for their House and Senate candidates.

Bottom line, I see no need to blame our entire voting system, the same system that enabled Trump to become President in 2016, for his loss in 2020. It all makes perfect sense without that.

Btw, one issue he REALLY blew it on, was his perceived indifference towards the 200,000+ Covid-19 fatalities, and his cavalier attitude towards things as elementary as masking and social distancing. Those cut across party lines, and alienated a lot of independents who might have voted for him otherwise.

[blackbery]

It will take as long as 'we the people' aka the Constitution deems it necessary to ensure a fair & just election result. If we allow the Democrats to steal the election, the country is finished. A citizen votes & elects the people they want to represent them in gov't. When the election process is tainted, manipulated & there is cheating, a person's individual vote doesn't matter. It's no longer a democracy but a totalitarian state where the plutocrats, the 'global elites' & 'politburos' run the nation.

The U.S.A. fought against the British tyranny for freedom & won. Over 40,000 American Patriots died fighting or from diseases. They didn't win only to have foreign nations colluding with radical, left forces to overthrow democracy & have the U.S.A. be ruled by outside forces.

President Trump won in a landslide, everyone knows it. Now, he has to fight the corrupt & devious Dems who planned this 'steal' years ago. Working with Communist China, the Criminal Clintons, enabled by the Media, the ruling Oligarchs of Big Tech, the Dems hatched the diabolical plan to destroy American democracy & attempt to overthrow the Trump Presidency. They tried it 2x with the phony impeachment & the Russia-Collusion Delusion. The Dems & the Global Elites are terrified of another Trump Term because he's already exposed many of the swamp creatures & has put America First.

Trump supporters are true Patriots who love Trump's policies which make America Great & not communist China or other countries. Trump says every country should put their own country first & he's doing just that.

He doesn't want America to be part of the "Great Reset' which will benefit the few families that rule the entire world via the Global Elites. They can't go ahead with their 'economic plan' with the U.S.A. & need to have Beijing Biden in there. But Trump won by so many more millions than expected (11 million more voters than 2016) that their cheating had to become much bigger.
And they got caught.

It will eventually end up in SCOTUS which represents the Constitution. So I think waiting a couple of months isn't unreasonable considering Al Gore got 37 days while waiting for two recounts in one part of FL & there wasn't any cheating! If we allow this election to go unchecked, there will NEVER be another fair election in the U.S.A.



The American Revolutionary War (1775–1783), also known as the American War of Independence or the Revolutionary War, was initiated by delegates from the thirteen American colonies in Congress against Great Britain over their objection to Parliament's taxation policies and lack of colonial representation.




Dominion and Smartmatic was connected to Internet All Night on Nov. 4th F
This is Treason

Liberty Pact
@LibertyPact
· 5h
Republican legislators in PA, GA, AZ, NV, MI, and WI need to ban together to pass measures declaring their elections to be "in dispute". PA is ahead of the game and needs support. GA and AZ need to act NOW in unison with PA....MI, WI, and NV should quickly follow.

GROUNDSWELL!



Lin Wood
@LLinWood
·
8h
Good morning.

Today is a good day for Patriots to carefully read this September 2018 Executive Order. And then be confident that we have honest men & women in our government who, like
@realDonaldTrump
, love America & the rule of law.

Justice is coming.


I wonder who the first ones to be arrested will be? The Dominion Voting System Executives have fled the country in terror & closed their offices, have they all run away to China to escape prosecution?







https://www.whitehouse.gov/president...ates-election/

Originally Posted by tikana

Lets hope this bs willbe over soon

[blackbery]

Nobody has won or lost OFFICIALLY. The Media can claim anyone won but until the election process is completed, it's completely meaningless.


Under U.S. federal law, states have until Dec. 8 to finalize their ballot count. Moreover, the electoral college does not actually “meet” until the Monday after the second Wednesday in December to award their votes. This year, that meeting is on Dec. 14.


The Trump campaign alleged they had not been given proper access to watch ballot counting in MI, PA and Georgia. The Georgia Republican party said they plan to sue in a dozen counties across the state.

The New York Times has reported Biden’s campaign has a large legal team ready to counter any efforts by Trump’s team and other Republicans to contest election rules or ballot counting.


Who Declares Winner in US Presidential Election?


There's Election Day, where those electors are elected; there's the date in December where the electors meet and then vote for president; and then there's the date in January where the Congress certifies that election.

Originally Posted by david starling

Having obviously lost the 2020 Presidential Election, Trump is now engaged in attempting to discredit the ENTIRE election system ITSELF. This is like losing in a game of chess, refusing to topple his king in acknowledgement of his defeat, then knocking the entire board to the floor and shouting, "This game was rigged!", with no legally verifiable evidence.

No memes allowed, to avoid the tedium of constant Fact-checking, and the shrinking of the text. Please be prepared to verify your sources of information if asked to do so. Also, no huge font--just say what you need to say without all the fanfare.

[david starling]

Originally Posted by Dirius

Democrats 2016: OMG!! RUSSIA INTERVENED IN OUR ELECTION! FRAUD! FRAUD!

Democrats 2020: OMG!! ELECTIONS ARE SAFE AND FAIR SHUT UP! NO FRAUD!

Republicans 2016: HOORAY! TRUMP WON in a SAFE AND FAIR ELECTION!

Republicans 2020: OMG, TRUMP LOST??? NO WAY!!! The WHOLE SYSTEM MUST HAVE BEEN RIGGED AGAINST HIM!!!

[Cary2]

Originally Posted by david starling

Cary, aren't voters allowed to "vote their hate", or dislike of personality, style, and/or (to me, most importantly), policies?

I was joking that a vote for Biden t-shirt should have had his picture with the caption: Vote For Me Because I'm NOT Trump!

This was definitely an anti-Trump movement by Democrats. Biden was just an "okay", moderate Democratic candidate with the best chance to possibly win a close race in the battleground States. The Democrats put a LOT of effort into convincing registered Democrats to vote nationwide, despite Biden being a relatively unappealing candidate. And, Party loyalty was high in both major Parties. For that reason, there was a huge turnout in terms of number of votes cast.

Since there are about 7 million more registered Democrats than Republicans, and the independent voters were about half leaning towards one Party or the other, I correctly predicted way back, that Trump would lose the national Popular Vote by 6+ million votes on that basis alone.


As you say, there was no Blue Wave, but there WAS a not-Trump-again wave. And, there was an attractive Libertarian Party candidate. Those account for the relatively close Biden victories in Arizona, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.

About two-thirds of the votes for the Libertarian were votes that would have gone to Trump if she hadn't been on the ballots, and that alone would have enabled him to win the Electoral College.

You may recall that Ralph Nader was blamed for taking Democratic votes away from Al Gore in the EXTREMELY close and Election-deciding race in Florida in 2000; and, the strong Green Party candidate Jill Stein was blamed for taking away badly needed votes from Hillary in 2016. So, "spoilers", as third-party candidates are often described, are nothing new.

Since nearly the entire focus this Election was on the Presidency, there was much less Democratic concentration on the House and Senate races, and no spoilers there, which accounts for the wins for Republicans in that area. Many Democrats voted ONLY as part of the not-Trump movement, and didn't even bother to vote for their House and Senate candidates.

Bottom line, I see no need to blame our entire voting system, the same system that enabled Trump to become President in 2016, for his loss in 2020. It all makes perfect sense without that.

Btw, one issue he REALLY blew it on, was his perceived indifference towards the 200,000+ Covid-19 fatalities, and his cavalier attitude towards things as elementary as masking and social distancing. Those cut across party lines, and alienated a lot of independents who might have voted for him otherwise.

You are trying to sound unruffled about the Democrats big loss in Congress, but I assure you the Democrats are very ruffled. Various representatives demanded that the radical Left stop all talk of socialism, Green New Deal, high taxation, and such dung as that. Most of the Democrats are convinced that the vote in two years will be worse for the Democrats, and they know it is the radicals and the criminals that have turned the tide against them.

You say you believe the vote process and you pretend to be nonplussed about the Democrat's defeat, but most people are immune to the song and dance from sufferers of Trump Derangement Syndrome.

There are millions of hysterical people who blame Trump for Covid, but there are more people who recognize how insane the lock-downs are, how deadly will be the financial depression of lock-down, and who see that Trump promised a vaccine before the end of the year which the Democrats poo-pooed and demonized as an utterance from Trump. They see what Democratic leadership has done to trash the Blue States, how self-important Democrats seized their chance to rule with an iron fist while the Democratic Ruling Class flouted their own rules believing they would not be caught. It will not be forgotten.

[blackbery]

NO WAY Trump lost when he got 11 Million MORE votes than 2016.

NO WAY Trump lost when he Won Record 16 Bellwether Counties.

NO WAY Trump lost when he won both OH & FL & NO Presidential candidate has won the election without winning at least one of them, particularly Florida.

NO WAY Trump lost when he got higher minority vote in 2020 than 2016.

NO WAY Trump lost when the fake news media want us to beieve that Beijing Biden got more black votes than Obama!!!

NO WAY Trump lost when he had thousands & thousands attend his rallies while Biden couldn't get more than 10 people to stand in his circles.

NO WAY Trump lost. Period. He won in a landslide when you count all legal ballots & discard illegal ballots.

Originally Posted by david starling

Republicans 2016: HOORAY! TRUMP WON in a SAFE AND FAIR ELECTION!

Republicans 2020: OMG, TRUMP LOST??? NO WAY!!! The WHOLE SYSTEM MUST HAVE BEEN RIGGED AGAINST HIM!!!

[blackbery]

Well said Cary2.

Nancy Pelosi faces Democratic ouster calls over lackluster 2020 results

https://youtu.be/3HNiB8maO1Q


Democrats turn on Nancy Pelosi for big loss in Congress

Democrats Lament No 'Blue Wave' In General Election: 'Not A Lot Has Changed'

'There Was No Blue Wave, But a Big Red Wave'
[B][I]

How Republicans pulled off a big upset and nearly took back the House

Originally Posted by Cary2

You are trying to sound unruffled about the Democrats big loss in Congress, but I assure you the Democrats are very ruffled. Various representatives demanded that the radical Left stop all talk of socialism, Green New Deal, high taxation, and such dung as that. Most of the Democrats are convinced that the vote in two years will be worse for the Democrats, and they know it is the radicals and the criminals that have turned the tide against them.

You say you believe the vote process and you pretend to be nonplussed about the Democrat's defeat, but most people are immune to the song and dance from sufferers of Trump Delusion Syndrome.

There are millions of hysterical people who blame Trump for Covid, but there are more people who recognize how insane the lock-downs are, how deadly will be the financial depression of lock-down, and who see that Trump promised a vaccine before the end of the year which the Democrats poo-pooed and demonized as an utterance from Trump. They see what Democratic leadership has done to trash the Blue States, how self-important Democrats seized their chance to rule with an iron fist while the Democratic Ruling Class flouted their own rules believing they would not be caught. It will not be forgotten.