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The video is from the GA hearings, and witness testimonials and the evidence they present. You can dismiss it if you want - but doesn't make it untrue. You are just closing your eyes to the facts because you don't want to check it out, which is fine.

I guess if it is not aired on CNN - then it didn't happen correct?
No doubt that video is real. But the assertion that voting machines were hacked just now, December 30th, hasn't turned up anywhere else.

If this is a reference to an alleged hacking that took place earlier, those stories have been WIDELY debunked.

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The video is from the GA hearings, and witness testimonials and the evidence they present. You can dismiss it if you want - but doesn't make it untrue. You are just closing your eyes to the facts because you don't want to check it out, which is fine.

I guess if it is not aired on CNN - then it didn't happen correct?
It's too recent for fact-checking.

Sounds like Republicans hacked in to prove it could be done.

Now, they have to prove that it was done, aside from themselves doing it, and who benefited.

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No doubt that video is real. But the assertion that voting machines were hacked just now, December 30th, hasn't turned up anywhere else.

If this is a reference to an alleged hacking that took place earlier, those stories have been WIDELY debunked.
Yes what reason would anti-Trump CNN have to not show you the GA hearings at all? I wonder why. Its not like actual government-run hearings on fraud would be newsworthy.
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It's too recent for fact-checking.

Sounds like Republicans hacked in to prove it could be done.

Now, they have to prove that it was done, aside from themselves doing it, and who benefited.
The voting machines aren't supposed to be connected to the internet (there may be a law on it?). This is what dominion and other "experts" testified, that the machines can't be accesed during the election process.

He showed they could be accesed. Due to this factor, a full audit of the machines should be in order.
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The voting machines aren't supposed to be connected to the internet (I think there is a law on it?). This is what dominion and other "experts" testified, that the machines can't be accesed during the election process.

He showed they could be accesed. Due to this factor, a full audit of the machines should be in order.
I couldn't get whether this was just one machine that could have tampered with to connect it to the Internet, or if they were able to connect through WiFi to all of them.
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I couldn't get whether this was just one machine that could have tampered with to connect it to the Internet, or if they were able to connect through WiFi to all of them.
If the machine can be tampered in the first place, they are not really safe then.
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They also presented evidence that sample ballots sent to republican areas are "misaligned" (they are printed wrong) and marked, causing machines to discount votes (or something of the sort).

This has actually lead the Georgia senate to pass a motion to allow the access to absentee ballots for review.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-Yq...ture=emb_title
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They also presented evidence that sample ballots sent to republican areas are "misaligned" (they are printed wrong) and marked, causing machines to discount votes (or something of the sort).

This has actually lead the Georgia senate to pass a motion to allow the access to absentee ballots for review.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-Yq...ture=emb_title
That's fair. As long as they check to see if any went to Democrats also.

I don't trust skilled experts with a biased agenda. They could be doctoring the results.
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What Obama did was extremely unusual, and you would know that if you read any of the fact checks. He's the only senator ever to step down that soon after winning a higher office. All other senators who've been elected president or vice president--including Joe Biden when he was elected as Obama's VP--waited until December or January. Biden didn't step down until well into January 2009, after swearing in for a term that everyone knew he wouldn't serve more than two and a half weeks of, if that.

Not only that, Democrats had a solid majority in both houses of Congress in 2008, and kept it through the election. Obama and Biden were not tilting a tenuous and contentious party balance when they stepped down. Right now, Democrats in Congress are apt to feel they can't afford to lose anyone.

Furthermore, Harris is in a unique and crucial position: she's on the intelligence committee, where she gets intelligence information that the Trump administration is withholding from Biden in an effort to stymie the transition. Now that her successor has been chosen, she could step down without leaving a hole in the Democratic side of the Senate, but Padilla would not inherit her position on the intelligence committee, and would not be allowed to share the committee's information with her even if he did. (Harris can't share that information with Biden before he becomes president.) So she may have good reason not to step down until right before the inauguration. Holding onto her Senate seat is likely to be the only way she can get crucial intelligence information for the incoming Biden administration, and she's the only person in that administration who can get it. This situation has never existed before.
I am not taking anything from politifiction and nytimes as worthy sources, sorry to say. Kamala has not relinquished her Senate seat, not because she's part of any intelligence or whatever, but because she knows she's in deep trouble. It's not just me calling out how unusual it is, but it's attracted the attention of many. The fact that nytimes and politifiction had to explicitly address it and try to make it out to be normal that Kamala's still senator actually speaks volumes to me. They're trying to do damage control, but it's not working.

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Based on what realistic scenario on January 6th is Kamala not going to become Vice-President? Are you just wishing, or is there more to it?

If it's about the Kraken jumping out and gobbling her up, I wouldn't consider that a realistic expectation!
David, we have given links proving voter fraud in the past couple of months. There's no WAY she can get into power. If she does then it sets a new precedent and also demoralises a lot of honest people from wanting to ever vote in the future because, what's the point? If they will vote for someone who the powers that be don't want to be in office then they can just print countless ballots, manipulate dominion machines, kick out observers etc and get to cheating, because they'll know that they could get away with it back in 2020. Just because you guys don't want to believe there was fraud, doesn't make it untrue.
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There should be requests for links, because otherwise, its only propaganda on youtubes. Thats all I see around here from Trump people.


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1) They aren't very bright (see this for proof)


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Right, but you can link youtube videos to such propaganda.
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A good rule of thumb is, if the only source for a "fact" is social media, it's not a fact. YouTube is social media. Anyone can post anything there, and it's not fact checked.

If something asserted on YouTube is backed up by reputable sources outside of it, that's different. This stuff about the voting machines is not.
Wtf?? Youtube shows your favourite CNN as well. I guess we shouldn't listen to CNN then either.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWmPp4lFOCU

A good breakdown by Jovan Pulitzer explaining the faultiness of the voting machines. If this doesn't prove that there was fraud going on then nothing will convince you guys until CNN finally admits it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWmPp4lFOCU

A good breakdown by Jovan Pulitzer explaining the faultiness of the voting machines. If this doesn't prove that there was fraud going on then nothing will convince you guys until CNN finally admits it.
The evidence this man presents shows clear fraud. The bar code missing from ballots in certain areas, the hacking, the missaligment on republican ballots, etc.


Here is a snapshot of what the video shows. Its not a "meme", just an image - hope it doesn't go against the thread rules:


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It's too late for any of this to matter on January 6th:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...ction-do-over/

This article reiterates everything I've read so far in a clear and concise manner, and includes historical precedent and the wording of the Constitution regarding the job of Congress on January 6th.

Trump had almost 4 years to investigate the voting machines prior to December 14th, when the Electoral College carved the State governors' certified Election results in stone.

If he'd won in 2020, he'd be calling it the "fairest election ever!"

Winning is all he and his followers care about, not the fairness of the Election process they're being so sanctimonious about now that he lost.

For example, they have no problem whatsoever disregarding the intelligence reports about the significant effect of illegal foreign interference on the 2016 Election.
The picture of the ballots is out of place here, but a link to it would be optimal.

I hope you check out the link I just posted about what January 6th is really about.

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Wtf?? Youtube shows your favourite CNN as well. I guess we shouldn't listen to CNN then either.
And the same CNN shows also appear in places other than You Tube, and what they report is also reported by other reputable news sources. That's backing it up with reputable sources.
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The GA senate comittee has requested a forensic audit of absentee ballots in Fulton county.

Has "reputable" CNN mentioned the story yet? I guess it didn't happen until CNN reports it

https://justthenews.com/politics-pol...ballots-fulton
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Here are some breaking news from CNN! This is true journalism! Nothing on the GA hearings though : /

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/12/31/e...scn/index.html
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The GA senate comittee has requested a forensic audit of absentee ballots in Fulton county.

Has "reputable" CNN mentioned the story yet? I guess it didn't happen until CNN reports it

https://justthenews.com/politics-pol...ballots-fulton
Post-election audits are standard operating procedure. Not really "news" unless they significantly affect the Election results, which hardly ever happens.

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The entire rationale for the meeting of the Electoral College is to assert States' Rights over the election process for President.

Once the Governor of a State Officially certifies the results of that State's Popular-vote, and sends those results to the Electoral College, it's done:
That State has determined it's winner, and the Federal Government is forbidden from overriding it.

So, the only purpose of the House and Senate involvement, as is coming up on January 6th, is to respect and honor the Constitutional Right of the States to choose the next President.

And, that choice is the one compiled and certified by the Electoral College, and ANNOUNCED, NOT ADJUDICATED, by the Vice President in the Senate chambers.

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Here are some breaking news from CNN! This is true journalism! Nothing on the GA hearings though : /

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/12/31/e...scn/index.html
CNN gotz its priorities straight.
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CNN gotz its priorities straight.
Imagine if theyused their resources to report actual news.
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Imagine if theyused their resources to report actual news.
Is this one too trivial for you?


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What's the purpose for the "Be there, will be wild" demonstration Trump called for in D.C. on January 6th?

Concealed Carry permits must be obtained IN D.C., and anyone with a handgun is required by Law to show a valid D.C. permit.

The Proud Boys will be there, out of their normal vigilante "uniforms", so as to blend in with the rest of the crowd.

When Pence announces that Biden won the 2020 Election, what's the expected reaction from the mob of unruly Trump supporters?
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Imagine if theyused their resources to report actual news.
What a novel concept eh? CNN et al actually being real journalists. If that happened, then Trump would have been more likely to win fair and square!
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What's the purpose for the "Be there, will be wild" demonstration Trump called for in D.C. on January 6th?

Concealed Carry permits must be obtained IN D.C., and anyone with a handgun is required by Law to show a valid D.C. permit.

The Proud Boys will be there, out of their normal vigilante "uniforms", so as to blend in with the rest of the crowd.

When Pence announces that Biden won the 2020 Election, what's the expected reaction from the mob of unruly Trump supporters?
What's the purpose? It means that Trump has already checkmated all enemies and knows that he got this in the bag. He wouldn't ask people to come out to Washington D.C. unless it was for something huge. This is the very first time he's actually done that, so there is a big reason. I also believe that it will actually be safe. Trump wouldn't ask for such a huge crowd to rock up and put themselves in danger if he didn't have everything under control (ie. Some terrorists breaking fire in the middle of the crowd and killing people. That won't happen).

The thing is, the Trump haters believe that Trump is a dumb oaf and doesn't know what he's doing, but if they actually studied him properly all these years they'd realise that he's actually extremely intelligent and strategic. I'm not joking, he is a smart man. The fact that he hasn't stressed once about the election should actually pretty much say everything. He's won, and he, along with a lot of others, knows this.
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