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Trump and Pelosi are in AGREEMENT that more money should be allocated to American citizens in the Covid-19 relief package.

DEMOCRATS in the House are working on a separate bill, now that Trump has signed the first, that will ADD $1400 to the $600 already allocated.

REPUBLICANS in the Senate are expected to OPPOSE the increase.

Pelosi is in the driver's seat, now that Trump has LOST CONTROL of the Senate.

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Nancy's Mars cj. "Algol" at nr. 26°Taurus is sitting atop Trump's MC in this lifetime.
The old saying comes to mind, "It takes one to know one" and she knows him well.
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Trump and Pelosi are in AGREEMENT that more money should be allocated to American citizens in the Covid-19 relief package.

DEMOCRATS in the House are working on a separate bill, now that Trump has signed the first, that will ADD $1400 to the $600 already allocated.

REPUBLICANS in the Senate are expected to OPPOSE the increase.

Pelosi is in the driver's seat, now that Trump has LOST CONTROL of the Senate.
Enjoy your $600.

Don't concern yourself while your elected aristocrats in congress give away billions of your tax dollars to other nations, all while you guys are starving and unable to work -
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Well, he did sign the bill which includes complete 100% deduction of all business lunches & dinners. Like the "3 Martini lunch" and of course, his signature 2018 2 Trillion for the very wealthy in tax cuts which never expires.
(hopefully Biden will cancel that one immediately which freaks them out!)
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mark...cid=uxbndlbing


A tax break for business meals. Senator Bernie Sanders, an independent from Vermont, called the deduction "corporate socialism for the rich" that would allow CEOs to write off "a 3-martini lunch."
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Enjoy your $600.

Don't concern yourself while your elected aristocrats in congress give away billions of your tax dollars to other nations, all while you guys are starving and unable to work -
Pelosi led the House in passing a bill to give American citizens an additional $1400. It took a 2/3 majority, so many Republicans must have voted for it.

The Senate is led by McConnell, so it will have trouble passing there, even though Trump wants it.
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Well, he did sign the bill which includes complete 100% deduction of all business lunches & dinners. Like the "3 Martini lunch" and of course, his signature 2018 2 Trillion for the very wealthy in tax cuts which never expires.
(hopefully Biden will cancel that one immediately which freaks them out!)
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mark...cid=uxbndlbing

A tax break for business meals. Senator Bernie Sanders, an independent from Vermont, called the deduction "corporate socialism for the rich" that would allow CEOs to write off "a 3-martini lunch."
And ironically, this seems to bother you more, than your own politicians giving your tax money to other nations.

By the way - anyone can benefit from these deductibles. Not just the rich. The "3 martini lunch" also applies to a McDonalds meal. You just need to know how to write it off.
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And ironically, this seems to bother you more, than your own politicians giving your tax money to other nations.

By the way - anyone can benefit from these deductibles. Not just the rich. The "3 martini lunch" also applies to a McDonalds meal. You just need to know how to write it off.
Dirius, how much do you think the stimulus allocation should be? Is $600 enough, in your opinion?
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After Biden's Inauguration, he's committed to authorizing an increase in stimulus allocations if the Senate refuses to do so. He could do that by an Executive order.
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And ironically, this seems to bother you more, than your own politicians giving your tax money to other nations.

By the way - anyone can benefit from these deductibles. Not just the rich. The "3 martini lunch" also applies to a McDonalds meal. You just need to know how to write it off.

Then tell us HOW when the politicians just wrote the deductions off with Trump's massive rich man's cuts for the little people. People who are not business owners now cannot write off what they use to (and they never were able to write off their lunches at McDonald's) ....only expense 20% of your income up to that amount for Medical expenses. But that has all changed now as of 2018, for the tax cuts for the average folks. Goodbye House Interest over a certain amount.Now there is a limit.


For Businesses however, yes take whatever you want and "expense it"....


But you can't be a single average jane doe going to McDonald's and taking the lunch off your taxes, it doesn't work that way.


As I mentioned earlier, people should not "Assume" anything about another when they don't ask or know them. Always ask first, then you won't have egg on your face.


Personally speaking, if someone asked ME, I am absolutely with Bernie Sanders on not giving away multi-millions or now Billions to foreign countries.

The money should be used for our own people. PERIOD!


I'll repeat the lesson I learned from a Virgo many decades ago I never forgot.


When someone assumes about another, they make an a--out of u & me. Break the word down like a Virgo might be prone to do.



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Dirius, how much do you think the stimulus allocation should be? Is $600 enough, in your opinion?
I don't think there should be any, I think the economy should be open allowing people to work. But as I said before, if you are going to go for socialism, then do it responsibly:

- Why are you funding a department of education, when schools in most states are closed?

- Why are you still paying exorbitant wages to congressmen and senators at a time of crisis?

- Why are you giving foreign aid to other countries when your own people are starving and unable to work?

This isn't a republican/democrat or a libertarian/communist issue. Its not a Trump supporter/Bernie Bro/Biden voter issue either. These questions all of you (whether on the left, right or center) should be asking your representatives.
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Then tell us HOW when the politicians just wrote the deductions off with Trump's massive rich man's cuts for the little people. People who are not business owners now cannot write off what they use to (and they never were able to write off their lunches at McDonald's) ....only expense 20% of your income up to that amount for Medical expenses. But that has all changed now as of 2018, for the tax cuts for the average folks. Goodbye House Interest over a certain amount.Now there is a limit.

For Businesses however, yes take whatever you want and "expense it"....

But you can't be a single average jane doe going to McDonald's and taking the lunch off your taxes, it doesn't work that way.

As I mentioned earlier, people should not "Assume" anything about another when they don't ask or know them. Always ask first, then you won't have egg on your face.
Actually it does work that way. Any accountant knows the average person pays more in taxes than they should.
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Personally speaking, if someone asked ME, I am absolutely with Bernie Sanders on not giving away multi-millions or now Billions to foreign countries.

The money should be used for our own people. PERIOD!

I'll repeat the lesson I learned from a Virgo many decades ago I never forgot.

When someone assumes about another, they make an a--out of u & me. Break the word down like a Virgo might be prone to do.

A good lesson for everyone to learn.
You've been supporting Biden all along, who is in favour of increasing foreign aid and massive grants of money through different international groups. By default, you do support giving away billions of your tax dollars to foreign nations and dictators - even if you personally dislike the idea - you've promoted it by supporting Biden.
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Actually it does work that way. Any accountant knows the average person pays more in taxes than they should.


You've been supporting Biden all along, who is in favour of increasing foreign aid and massive grants of money through different international groups. By default, you do support giving away billions of your tax dollars to foreign nations and dictators - even if you personally dislike the idea - you've promoted it by supporting Biden.
The shutdowns are believed to be a way to slow down the spread of Covid-19. Reports are that it's still out of control, with new records set for daily fatalities. Also, that hospitals are overflowing with victims of the virus.

You believe it's a hoax? I know some people who do.


Foreign Aid has been going on ever since the end of WWII. It's not something Biden suddenly cooked up. And, it has support from both Republicans and Democrats.
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The shutdowns are believed to be a way to slow down the spread of Covid-19. Reports are that it's still out of control, with new records set for daily fatalities. Also, that hospitals are overflowing with victims of the virus.

You believe it's a hoax? I know some people who do.

Foreign Aid has been going on ever since the end of WWII. It's not something Biden suddenly cooked up. And, it has support from both Republicans and Democrats.
Not at all, I believe its a real threat, but I don't think that destroying the economy is the solution. The lockdowns should have been something temporary to stop the spread, and give the health-care systems time to get in order. But locking down an entire nation indefinetly isn't a solution.

I understand the foreign aid is common practice for the U.S. - but one would think that at a time of crisis, they would put it aside to help your own citizens. Biden did not create foreign aid thats true, but like every other politician, he wants to add more deals to the program, and give more money to international groups.
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Its also BEST to not be so judgemental about people on the forum who you do not know other then their few opinions on their posts.


I believe the moderators warned about this not long ago assaulting forum members for their posts or thoughts.



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As for supplying other countries with money, financial sums which are every bit as large each and every year, which then takes away from the American people, I have always been opposed to this, the same as Bernie Sanders.



The giveaways have now taken away from the American people during a time of serious crisis.


The other day I looked around to see what other western countries were doing with Stimulus. A lady from Denmark told me $4,000 per month for them and France was giving more to their citizens, although I could not verify on France.



Canada was giving $2,000 per month for 4 or more months straight.


Lets see if anyone else can find the links which show comparable countries, (western countries) stimulus to their citizens.



Yes, citizens should come first, not other countries welfare before our own. I have always signed on for bills that support only our own country first and foremost (with the exception of SARS and other African related diseases like AIDS ......in this I find an exception because others come here and spread the diseases through travel, plus I am not a cold-hearted person for those seriously in need like Food drops, rather then direct money to their often corrupted leaders which then does not reach the people. I prefer Food drops directly to the people.

And please don't tell me who I vote for or especially WHY I voted for Mr. Biden and Kamala Harris. I have my reasons. But I don't communicate my innermost thoughts with people who put down others for them. My reasons are based on LOGIC.


In this particular case, we had only 2 people to vote for who would get the popular and Electoral vote (it wouldn't go to the 3rd party nominee either)

Thats my logic, and looking back to 2016 I should have voted for HRC then but did not. I voted my heart. (which btw, was not the con man from New York City.
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Stimulus checks:


Hong Kong ($1,280 per adult), according to a BBC report.


Britain Is Paying Laid-Off Workers 80% Of Their Wages - up to the equivalent of $3,000)
It is hard to find the words to express my debt to the NHS for saving my life. (Boris Johnson)



Italy had approved the equivalent of a $59.6 billion stimulus package for businesses and families in economic crisis, Reuters reported. The bill would pay 400-800 euros ($469-939) per month for two months for those not eligible for welfare and who had no income.


Canada: $2k/mo for 4 months.


Ref: Canada:
Business Insider reported that Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau would provide the following residents 15 years old and up with the chance to apply for up to $1,400 in direct monthly payments for four months (eligibility was expanded from only those laid off to those anyone making up to the equivalent of $750 per month). Trudeau also said that he would increase the salaries of essential workers who make less than $1,875.80 per month, spending the equivalent of about $2.2 billion to do so.
Canada has managed its virus fairly well and especially when comparing its population size (nearly 38 million, the Daily Hive reported) to its rate of deaths (coming in 17th in deaths), with 120,132 cases and 8,987 deaths, according to the New York Times coronavirus dashboard.




South Korean President Moon Jae-in said that an “emergency disaster relief payment” of the equivalent of $816 (figures originally in won) would be made to those in the bottom 60% of income; the measure would cost about $7.4 billion, Reuters reported.


https://heavy.com/news/2020/08/covid...her-countries/


OUR WESTERN NEIGHBOR IS CANADA:


Here's How U.S. Coronavirus Stimulus Package Compares to ...

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Apr 11, 2020 · So while the one-time $1,200 U.S. stimulus check is mere fraction of the $1,433 USD per month that Canada has promised its newly unemployed …
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I believe the moderators warned about this not long ago assaulting forum members for their posts or thoughts.
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I merely pointed out that by promoting Biden, you are accepting his positions, and by default, you are accepting the idea of "foreign aid", even if you dislike the idea itself, and on that regard you seem more in agreement with Trump (who is against foreign aid).

I'm pointing out your contradiction, which isn't against forum rules - I'm not attacking you for having it.
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Are Canada’s $2,000 Stimulus Payments More Generous Than ...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/shaharziv/2020/04/17/...
Apr 17, 2020 · The 1,200 USD stimulus checks disbursed in the U.S., have income-based qualifications, while Canada payments focus more on changing circumstances (e.g.,



This link is dated September 2020:
In South Korea, people in the bottom 70% of the income bracket got a direct payment of about $820.


the Canadian government (initially) sent relief of $1,400 per month for up to four months


I don't think Canada, Germany and the UK support all those Middle Eastern Countries either with huge checks each year and in some cases, 3 or 4 times a year! They seem to put their citizens first.



Consider too, the USA supposedly, is a wealthier country then many others.


Italy also announced giving about $650 to self-employed and seasonal workers.


https://www.valuewalk.com/2020/09/co...cks-countries/


CONSIDER too, that the money the United States Treasury has, is the American taxpayers money to begin with!.......
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Once again for the umpteenth time, I voted Biden, because he was the ONLY Democratic Nominee. I did not vote Biden in the Primaries (if you are nosy enough to want to know) only the General Election.



Secondly, Foreign Aid is nothing unique to Joe Biden nor the Democrats. Trump's budget did the SAME thing, and gave BILLIONS away in foreign Aid



Trump's video claiming it was the Covid Bill he was against for various foreign aid, was actually Trump's own 2021 Budget HE submitted to Congress.





The U.S. provides aid to countries that are recovering from war, developing countries, and countries that are strategically important to the U.S. In 2018, the U.S. spent over $47 billion on foreign aid – about $1 billion more than in 2017. About 37% of the aid went to ten countries:



https://worldpopulationreview.com/co...aid-by-country

As for the claim that Biden wants to increase Foreign Aid thru International Organizations? Please back this up with an actual Link!
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Once again for the umpteenth time, I voted Biden, because he was the ONLY Democratic Nominee. I did not vote Biden in the Primaries (if you are nosy enough to want to know) only the General Election.

Secondly, Foreign Aid is nothing unique to Joe Biden nor the Democrats. Trump's budget did the SAME thing, and gave BILLIONS away in foreign Aid

Trump's video claiming it was the Covid Bill he was against for various foreign aid, was actually Trump's own 2021 Budget HE submitted to Congress.

The U.S. provides aid to countries that are recovering from war, developing countries, and countries that are strategically important to the U.S. In 2018, the U.S. spent over $47 billion on foreign aid – about $1 billion more than in 2017. About 37% of the aid went to ten countries:

https://worldpopulationreview.com/co...aid-by-country

As for the claim that Biden wants to increase Foreign Aid thru International Organizations? Please back this up with an actual Link!
When you voted for Biden in the election, you accepted all of his proposals. Even those you dislike. Biden has, through his own campaign, agreed that he wants to increase U.S. diplomacy with many countries, and put emphasis on foreign aid.

“We’d bring aid back to the center of our foreign policy — the emphasis would be on diplomacy, on democracy, and on development,” Antony Blinken, a foreign policy adviser for the Biden campaign, said at a May online event.
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To my understanding, Trump submitted a budget request in February (?) - before the pandemic and the crisis begun. He has also reduced the amount given per year.
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Using foreign aid as a way to promote diplomacy, on democracy, and on development, does in no way say that he wants to increase. Simply to alter the criteria for its use.
I find it highly doubtful that anyone will agree 100% with the policies of any candidate. It's always a matter of choosing the candidate whose views most closely align with your own.





I'm not an "all or nothing" person; others may be, but I'm not. I'm certainly not a clone of another to accept ALL of another's positions, but I more closely resemble the political agenda of Bernie Sanders, and then the Democratic progressive party.
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Perhaps you were thinking of this February article:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN2030PV


Biden wasn't saying he would increase the foreign aid, but use it as a centerpiece for diplomacy, and democracy.
And Trump didn't say he'd eliminate it!


I didn't see anything that said, international organizations would be involved.


We should not speculate when there is no evidence of increasing foreign aid until the evidence of same shows up.



The bottom line, is Biden WON this election and if we don't like what he does (or Kamala Harris does if that's the case), then we vote them out next time around, the same as we did with Trump.
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I find it highly doubtful that anyone will agree 100% with the policies of any candidate. It's always a matter of choosing the candidate whose views most closely align with your own.

I'm not an "all or nothing" person; others may be, but I'm not. I'm certainly not a clone of another to accept ALL of another's positions, but I more closely resemble the political agenda of Bernie Sanders, and then the Democratic progressive party.
Actually it does - what he wants is to expand the money and recipients from U.S. tax money. That is what "promote" means - do more than you do now.

How is Joe Biden the closest candidate to Bernie?

- Joe doesn't want medicare for all or any manner of free healthcare (said so in the primary debate). He is happy with Obamacare as it is.
- Joe doesn't want to abolish student debt (has already said he won't do it).
- Joe received donation money from big corporations, a lot farmaceutical companies who want to buy favours from him.

He doesn't really seem much close to Bernie. Only thing they agree on is on the global warming stuff. And both want to increase your taxes to pay for it. And that is it. Bernie supporters have been duped - big time.
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Actually it does - what he wants is to expand the money and recipients from U.S. tax money. That is what "promote" means - do more than you do now.

How is Joe Biden the closest candidate to Bernie?

- Joe doesn't want medicare for all or any manner of free healthcare (said so in the primary debate). He is happy with Obamacare as it is.
- Joe doesn't want to abolish student debt (has already said he won't do it).
- Joe received donation money from big corporations, a lot farmaceutical companies who want to buy favours from him.

He doesn't really seem much close to Bernie. Only thing they agree on is on the global warming stuff. And both want to increase your taxes to pay for it. And that is it. Bernie supporters have been duped - big time.

Who's closer to Bernie, Biden or Trump?
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One (like me) can only hope, and pray!





IS Joe Biden "malleable" at his older age?


Progressive Rep. Jayapal Dubs Joe Biden ‘Moveable,’ Brags He Has Been Pushed Further Left





Washington Democrat Congresswoman Pramila Jayapal, who proposed House Democrats’ single-payer health care bill, celebrated Monday that former Vice President Joe Biden has shown he will be malleable in promoting the far-left’s agenda in the White House.
“We were able to push Joe Biden to do things that he hadn’t signed on to before,” Jayapal said on a Comedy Central episode of “The Daily Show” with Trevor Noah. “He is movable.”
Joe Biden surrendered to the socialists.
Democrat Rep. Pramila Jayapal, who wrote Dems' socialized medicine bill:
"We were able to significantly push Joe Biden to do things that he hadn't signed on to before. He is movable." pic.twitter.com/oDzxaWXjxX
— Mark Bednar (@MarkBednar) August 11, 2020
Jayapal’s optimism stems from the recently released “Unity Task Forces” agreement last month where the Biden campaign joined forces with staff from Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders’ to hammer out a new platform reassuring the Democratic base of Biden’s commitment to progressivism. Sanders’ staff clearly dominated the discussions getting Biden to endorse free college, citizenship for illegal immigrants, threatening federal border agents and pledging $2 trillion for a climate plan spent to achieve “environmental justice.”
The agreement earned Biden praise from Sanders declaring the 2020 Democratic presidential nominee would be “the most progressive president since FDR.”
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Is Joe Biden malleable or moveable? (as Prog. Democratic Congresswoman Jayapal says he is)?


According to his natal chart, I'd say yes. Moreso then many.


His natal ASC is mutable, Sagittarius, in the 1st decan of the sign, i.e. Jupiter -

His natal Jupiter is exalted in Cancer, and is favored by Trines to the Sun, Mercury and Venus Trine the ASC and Sextile the MC.



Personally, I "feel" that when he sees that the trump gang of hanger ons in the Senate continue to hang on to the phantom of trump, he will come out of his past naivete which he believed for so long from past dealings, that he can win them over to his way of thinking via negotiating with the other side.


That was "then" and THIS is "now" is the sad underpinning of my suggestion. They are lost and became a cult for trump, the cult lord.


Its a perfect time for Joe Biden before he dies, to wear his extrovert, generous mantle of Jupiter for the betterment of all instead of the few.



Isn't it wonderful?? To realize he has this signature we need in his natal chart.
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