david starling
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Opal, do you grow your own vegetables or have any fruit trees?
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Opal
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Vegetables some. No fruit trees. I buy food daily, based on what draws me. I eat pretty healthy. A lot of Mediterranean food.
Fruit salad, of fruit I can eat.
Salad is good, but I am better with cooked veggies. I still like salad once a week. I have to space stuff out.
Seafood is generally a no. Rarely eat fish.
I am not allergic to peanuts.
Fruit salad, of fruit I can eat.
Salad is good, but I am better with cooked veggies. I still like salad once a week. I have to space stuff out.
Seafood is generally a no. Rarely eat fish.
I am not allergic to peanuts.
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Opal
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Not allergic to either of them. There are advantages to being adept with a knife!
david starling
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Men should be made aware of that!
Opal
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Thought they were! They know where we hang and what we do! The bare feet are for a better grip! Look out!
david starling
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Isn't it getting too cold to work barefoot?
In the good ole days, women were kept "barefoot and pregnant and in the kitchen"!
Opal
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Barefoot, ah yes, the wine! Pregnant? Did you hear the one about the Phizer vaccine and the placenta?! Kitchen, the one with the ovens right?
david starling
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I thought it was a joke, like, "A placenta and the Pfizer vaccine walk into a bar."
Turns out, that both the Pfizer and the Moderna vaccines haven't yet been tested on pregnant women, and they haven't yet been approved for them.
Problem is, pregnancy is one of the highest risk factors regarding Covid-19 complications.
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Opal
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And myself, has to ask myself, why is this little news? Who hates humanity enough to risk humanity with an untested vaccine? This is not a battle of the sexes, but, it is obviously a battle. What are the sides though?
As always, the big question, is who would have the biggest gain?
But, all I have is questions.
I am not educated enough to have the answers.
CapAquaPis
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I saw a comical vid about two women meet each other: one from a western country (Europe? North America?) and another from an Islamic country (the Middle East or South Asia) and they both agreed men oppress them, except the western woman wearing a mini-skirt said the woman in a garb covering her whole body is "liberated". And then they rebutted their argument when the western woman said "In my country, men allow women to go first in many things" and the Muslim woman said "The Qu'ran permits me to have my own bank account", to agree again men aren't all bad, evil or patriarchal pigs.
A similar comical vid showed a white nationalist and a SJW both agree on the principles of race and culture. Also they portrayed them as equally admiring and then condemning Israel and Zionism. I mean, WTF? Are the far-right and far-left so similar or what? Whoever made the vids is a Libertarian who had it with all kinds of hate and "muh special privilege". The hypocrisy of anti-racism and anti-sexism is more about repression of freedom of speech and expression, double standards, hypocritical moralizing, "needlessly getting into politics" and "their fascism is manners". I'm sure AppLeo and Dirius will agree with me.
A similar comical vid showed a white nationalist and a SJW both agree on the principles of race and culture. Also they portrayed them as equally admiring and then condemning Israel and Zionism. I mean, WTF? Are the far-right and far-left so similar or what? Whoever made the vids is a Libertarian who had it with all kinds of hate and "muh special privilege". The hypocrisy of anti-racism and anti-sexism is more about repression of freedom of speech and expression, double standards, hypocritical moralizing, "needlessly getting into politics" and "their fascism is manners". I'm sure AppLeo and Dirius will agree with me.
Dirius
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I agree, but the comparison isn't as farfetched as it would seem: white nationalism originated on the left. Not on the right.
In the US, for example, the KKK originated within the Democrat party (left-wing).
White nationalists want a "strong" government controlling the people and censoring those who disagree with the established dogma. They also want government involved in all levels of the economy (like the italian fascist regime), and usually demand government run free health-care. These are typical left-wing doctrines.
Right wingers want the complete opposite, whether libertarians or conservatives, they want freedom from government and want government out of the economy.
The video shows two left-wingers who happen to agree in many things.
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david starling
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Are you aware of the origin of the labels "Left and Right Wings"?
As for Republicans being "Libertarian", that's the Party that began the disastrous "War on Drugs".
Republican President Abraham Lincoln started the Federal Income Tax.
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waybread
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Dirius, you need an American history lesson. Not sure what this has to do with man-hating, but just to set the record straight:
Prior to the mid-1960s, the Democratic party had two major wings: organized labor (mostly northern) and the highly conservative "Dixiecrats" in the South who reinforced vicious racial segregation and suppression of Black votes. This was an odd marriage, but it kept them in power through several administrations.
Surely you're aware of the Jim Crow laws in the South. There was nothing liberal about them.
This Democratic party coalition began to break down in the early 1960s, when President Lyndon Johnson (D) was able to get the Voting Rights Act and Civil Rights Act passed, over the objections of the pro-segregation members of his own party.
White southerners began a shift to the Republican party at that point, which was more or less finalized in the 1980s under Ronald Reagan.
Prior to the mid-1960s, the Democratic party had two major wings: organized labor (mostly northern) and the highly conservative "Dixiecrats" in the South who reinforced vicious racial segregation and suppression of Black votes. This was an odd marriage, but it kept them in power through several administrations.
Surely you're aware of the Jim Crow laws in the South. There was nothing liberal about them.
This Democratic party coalition began to break down in the early 1960s, when President Lyndon Johnson (D) was able to get the Voting Rights Act and Civil Rights Act passed, over the objections of the pro-segregation members of his own party.
White southerners began a shift to the Republican party at that point, which was more or less finalized in the 1980s under Ronald Reagan.
Dirius
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If the "labor wing" was helping the "racist wing" of the democrat party achieve its goals, what does that make them? Both wings agreed to support each other for mutual benefit. Ergo: the white supremacy originated on the left-wing.
Its not a complicated issue waybread.
Democrat presidents, such as Woodrow Wilson or F.D.R., who were typical left-wingers and progressives also promoted the interests of white supremacy. FDR assigned klan memebers to the supreme court.
Lets not try to re-write history shall we?
david starling
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If the "labor wing" was helping the "racist wing" of the democrat party achieve its goals, what does that make them? Both wings agreed to support each other for mutual benefit. Ergo: the white supremacy originated on the left-wing.
Its not a complicated issue waybread.
Democrat presidents, such as Woodrow Wilson or F.D.R., who were typical left-wingers and progressives also promoted the interests of white supremacy. FDR assigned klan memebers to the supreme court.
Lets not try to re-write history shall we?
The "Right-wing" originally supported a monarchy. No surprise they support Trump's kingly aspirations.
The "Left-wing" supported a democratic system of government, and opposed the rule of a monarch. No surprise they oppose Trump's attempt to become king of America.
It's not a complicated issue.
If this were true, then the mass shooters in the world were be equal right? 50% men, 50% women. But they've not. In fact, there's only 2 cases in the world of women mass shooters. Why is that? Is it perhaps because men tend towards violence while women tend towards diplomacy to solve their problems.
Many who rape, murder, abuse were victims of childhood abuse...but once again, it's primarily men that are raping, killing & abusing. There are some violent women but 90% of all rapes & murders in the world are done by men.
Not sure what statistics you were reading but maybe they came from a man's organization? It's simply not true that men & women are equally violent.
It's the testosterone Mars thing that separates the two sexes. Males have stronger upper body strength but if women were inclined towards violence like men, they would be using guns to kill people as they don't require much strength, they are guns designed specifically for women but can kill anyone with one bullet.
Domestic violence & rape are both used against women & children to gain power over them. It's tragic what happens, very often the man kills them all.
A Common Trait Among Mass Killers: Hatred Toward Women
When masculinity turns ‘toxic’: A gender profile of mass shootings
“These shootings overwhelmingly, almost exclusively, are males".
We need to talk about why mass shooters are almost always men
https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...c0c624-b700-11e9-a091-6a96e67d9cce_story.html
Many who rape, murder, abuse were victims of childhood abuse...but once again, it's primarily men that are raping, killing & abusing. There are some violent women but 90% of all rapes & murders in the world are done by men.
Not sure what statistics you were reading but maybe they came from a man's organization? It's simply not true that men & women are equally violent.
It's the testosterone Mars thing that separates the two sexes. Males have stronger upper body strength but if women were inclined towards violence like men, they would be using guns to kill people as they don't require much strength, they are guns designed specifically for women but can kill anyone with one bullet.
Domestic violence & rape are both used against women & children to gain power over them. It's tragic what happens, very often the man kills them all.
A Common Trait Among Mass Killers: Hatred Toward Women
When masculinity turns ‘toxic’: A gender profile of mass shootings
“These shootings overwhelmingly, almost exclusively, are males".
We need to talk about why mass shooters are almost always men
https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...c0c624-b700-11e9-a091-6a96e67d9cce_story.html
CapAquaPis
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I'm past the triple 3's: 3,033 registered posts and I have one more to add here.
In 2020 going onto 2021, many more (often young adult or Millennial) men like incels (short for involuntary celibacy) and MGTOW (Men Going Their Own Way) don't want a relationship nor marriage and children, they believe women have and abuse their "special gender privileges" in divorce alimony cases, domestic violence claims and child custody or support. At the same time, "radical fringe" feminists call for safe spaces for "Womyn born womyn" and want to make everything they find sexist illegal or immoral...from "man spreading" in public transportation to "male interruption patterns" to air conditioning in workplaces are "too cold for biological females" which does emphasize biological human sex differences alright...it's taboo to point out they can get pregnant and give birth.
I believe in my 40 year life I wasn't able to explore my sexuality, as well have many romantic relationships and unable to keep platonic female friends at most. Before COVID ended social lives in 2020, you had retroconservatism (1980/84) called for the return of taboos of premarital sexual promiscuity, the HIV/AIDS pandemic (1990/93) of a horrific deadly STD spreading globally, PC-ness (2000/02) which talks about feminist issues, sexual harassment and sex crimes a lot, and the Great Recession (2010/11) when dating, marriage and family planning too pricey when there wasn't enough money around at the time.
Women and men alike complain about lingering social gender roles and norms: For example, women get their orders first at a restaurant and men have to pay for the date. However, many women object to the idea of men go first on a date and women cannot be openly sexual when they are interested in a man they love. The confusion of traditional moralist conservatism of patriarchy clashes with the modern day ethos of gender equality that should place women on the same level as men (they should not be "second-class" nor the "weaker sex"). It's part of the cultural divide between our puritan foundations vs. our democratic egalitarianism, it further fuels the "gender war" or "battle of the sexes".
And finally, how come a "male sex-dominated" society are involved in charity to fight breast cancer in biological females, a major global killer among women?
In 2020 going onto 2021, many more (often young adult or Millennial) men like incels (short for involuntary celibacy) and MGTOW (Men Going Their Own Way) don't want a relationship nor marriage and children, they believe women have and abuse their "special gender privileges" in divorce alimony cases, domestic violence claims and child custody or support. At the same time, "radical fringe" feminists call for safe spaces for "Womyn born womyn" and want to make everything they find sexist illegal or immoral...from "man spreading" in public transportation to "male interruption patterns" to air conditioning in workplaces are "too cold for biological females" which does emphasize biological human sex differences alright...it's taboo to point out they can get pregnant and give birth.
I believe in my 40 year life I wasn't able to explore my sexuality, as well have many romantic relationships and unable to keep platonic female friends at most. Before COVID ended social lives in 2020, you had retroconservatism (1980/84) called for the return of taboos of premarital sexual promiscuity, the HIV/AIDS pandemic (1990/93) of a horrific deadly STD spreading globally, PC-ness (2000/02) which talks about feminist issues, sexual harassment and sex crimes a lot, and the Great Recession (2010/11) when dating, marriage and family planning too pricey when there wasn't enough money around at the time.
Women and men alike complain about lingering social gender roles and norms: For example, women get their orders first at a restaurant and men have to pay for the date. However, many women object to the idea of men go first on a date and women cannot be openly sexual when they are interested in a man they love. The confusion of traditional moralist conservatism of patriarchy clashes with the modern day ethos of gender equality that should place women on the same level as men (they should not be "second-class" nor the "weaker sex"). It's part of the cultural divide between our puritan foundations vs. our democratic egalitarianism, it further fuels the "gender war" or "battle of the sexes".
And finally, how come a "male sex-dominated" society are involved in charity to fight breast cancer in biological females, a major global killer among women?
CapAquaPis
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Another issue I have with so-called SJWs or "feminists" is they promote body positivity against fat shaming, then they tell men "do not sexualize me. I'm not an object. You're sexist." I believe in the concept of beauty shouldn't be limited based on a woman's body size, shape and weight. And in the 1970s-90s, many women celebrated and glamorized pregnancy, note it was a strong taboo in the 1950s when the TV sitcom "I love Lucy" couldn't say the P word when Lucille Ball, the actress really was...pregnant. And in the 1960s, NBC news host(ess) Florence Henderson complained about the TV network censored her pregnant figure on her morning show and she felt this was against her civil rights as a woman.
Because both men & women get cancer & the majority of men & woman are decent, caring people who care about others. Men have mothers, gmothers, wives, sisters & daughters who get breast cancer. They care. I
t's only a tiny % of the male population that rape, kill & abuse but one serial killer can kill as many as 100 women & children & rape a lot more.
As for the incels that you post about, here's a good article about their hate for women who they blame for not having sex. Duh, guess they never heard the word 'escort'.
‘Incel’ violence is a form of extremism. It’s time we treated it as a security threat
https://theconversation.com/incel-v...ime-we-treated-it-as-a-security-threat-138536
t's only a tiny % of the male population that rape, kill & abuse but one serial killer can kill as many as 100 women & children & rape a lot more.
As for the incels that you post about, here's a good article about their hate for women who they blame for not having sex. Duh, guess they never heard the word 'escort'.
‘Incel’ violence is a form of extremism. It’s time we treated it as a security threat
https://theconversation.com/incel-v...ime-we-treated-it-as-a-security-threat-138536