love-thinking
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What's an indicator of low intelligence in a birth chart?
Define low intelligence.
Forgive me if I sound offended, but as someone who has had to live with the "low intelligence" label for years, there is no such thing as stupidity, only different kind of intelligence. That said, I seem to notice that the people who are labeled "low intelligence" take more time to think, which isn't always a bad thing. Thinking slowly means more refined thought.
I can think of a couple of placements for that:
I have my chart here for reference.
- Mercury retrograde
- Mercury square Saturn
- Mercury in signs like Taurus or Capricorn
- Mercury forming an aspect to Neptune (causing seemingly spacy thought. In my case Neptune quintile Mercury)
Define low intelligence.
Forgive me if I sound offended, but as someone who has had to live with the "low intelligence" label for years, there is no such thing as stupidity, only different kind of intelligence. That said, I seem to notice that the people who are labeled "low intelligence" take more time to think, which isn't always a bad thing. Thinking slowly means more refined thought.
I can think of a couple of placements for that:
I have my chart here for reference.
- Mercury retrograde
- Mercury square Saturn
- Mercury in signs like Taurus or Capricorn
- Mercury forming an aspect to Neptune (causing seemingly spacy thought. In my case Neptune quintile Mercury)
I am not sure that I agree with the placements you have used as examples above.
In my experience,Mercury retro does not usually signify low intelligence.
I think it often indicates someone who thinks in a different way than the 'norm' and may look at things very deeply.
My husband has Merc Retro in Aries in the 12th. He is an award winning writer and travels around the world speaking and teaching about writing and literature and film and TV.
Prince had Merc retro. He had a very high IQ. Same with Buckminster Fuller, the famous inventor, who created the geodesic dome.
Mercury in Taurus:
As a mom, I have to stand up for my 2 kids, both with Merc in Taurus. Neither have low intelligence. They were both in the gifted program in school.
My son reads one or two novels a week and has for many years. My daughter is a writer like her father and has been very successful.
So I disagree that Mercury in Taurus signifies a low IQ. It can signify someone who processes data slower than the average bear. But if someone is an Aries or Gemini with their Merc in Taurus, they are not going to be slow witted, necessarily.
Mercury in Taurus can be stubborn and resistant to change, but not necessarily dumb.
Mercury in Taurus natives: Emma Watson, Sigmund freud, George Clooney, Bono, Gigi Hadid
Mercury square Saturn:
Some very intelligent natives have Merc/Saturn squares. Saturn can hone ones perceptions and thoughts and stir ambition and accomplishments.
Hilary Clinton----Salvador Dali---Sir Isaac Newton---Woody Allen---Johnny Depp---Maya Angelou---Warren Buffett....
These^^^ are not stupid, low IQ people...
Looks like you failed to understand my point. My point is that the people with those placements think differently, so as a result being LABELED "low intelligence" by the masses. And I can attest to that, having Mercury retrograde in 2H square Saturn and being called stupid.
I'm in NO way saying that those placements make people stupid.
In my chart you can see I have Mercury/Jupiter opposition too. And I jump the gun sometimesSorry. I did miss your point.
I skimmed the first paragraph too fast and skipped to the numbered parts below.
Must be my Mercury opposed Jupiter, exact.
What's an indicator of low intelligence in a birth chart?
Mercury in Aries/Pisces/Leo
Mercury in hard aspect to Neptune
Mercury-Saturn can make someone really slow but not having low intelligence per se.
The native can literally speak slowly for example.
I have a difficult time deciding about Mercury in Sag because I've seen both intelligent and the complete opposite of intelligent people with it. The intelligent ones had lots of other aspects to their Mercury while the not intelligent ones had their Mercury almost unaspected or just a few sextiles and stuff like that. (I'm talking about Sag Mercury).
I have 2 cousins with Sag Mercury and all people comment on how low intelligent they are. I mean it's very obvious.
However with my cousin it's beyond creepy.
It's like she has an empty head which is filled and replaus whatever she listens and sees from others. I find this the most creepy thing and it's also very common with Neptunian Mercuries. It comes to a point that they would drive me crazy because they forget and get confused about whatever they've said in the past.. I've come to a piint that I would record them in order to prove it to them and to save my sanity. They don't have the slightest idea but their environment seems to realise it.
With my cousin though I don't see her having friends. No one wants her and everyone calls her stupid. It makes me sad and I've been talking to her for years but honestly I knew it was completely pointless since the beginning because she's actually a repeater. I don't know how to explain it otherwise, but it's like her brain doesn't work in a sense.
Also she lies a lot for no reason. The lies she tells are lies that wouldn't do her any favor. It's very weird actually.
Her parents and her brother are normal people on the most than average intelligence side.
Does she have high functioning autism or ADD?
Mercury really does get a bad rep. But some people may have anxiety disorders and other mental health issues and excel at other stages or domains in life.
It breaks my heart really. I kind of regret starting this thread.
Oops.
Any superior intelligence related to Uranus imo. Especially, highly tight conjunction with lightbringer for diurnal nativities aka the Sun.
Opposite and square to Uranus is the trouble.
Well, okay. I do have sun trine Uranus...not that tight, though. A 4 or 5 degree orb if I recall.
But the oops was because I haven't done anything particularly amazing or genius.
Pluto and Uranus sitting together in your chart. Uranus naturally didn't like Pluto.
Hhmm... Pluto's light reflections should be bother Uranus a lot.
It's really complicated. A birth chart merely shows a potential at birth. Many factors influence where a child gets a chance to develop intellectual capabilities. You might see an intelligent-looking natal chart, only to learn that the person got a head-injury as a young person, that seriously affects his ability to think clearly.
What is behind your question?
[Gemini888, I have Mercury retrograde. I disagree.]