piercethevale
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Howdy 'ya all...
I had a realization, a few evenings ago, concerning the Sabian Symbols.
Many of you have probably noticed that I often mention that the symbology has to be taken literally as either a direct action, attitude, or frame of mind as the means by which to employ it in regards as to the nature of that particular Part.
If you'll study what Rudhyar did in his book on the Sabian Symbols wherein he wrote of how he perceived the entire cycle of traqnsformation, that the 360 symbols do illustrate, as being composed of two hemi-cycles in four "Acts" [as like that of a staged 'play'.] and each Zodiacal Sign is composed of two "Scenes" [again, as like the 'Scenes' in a 'Play']. Each "Scene" is comprised of fifteen degrees, specifically the first fifteen degrees and the second fifteen degrees of that Sign, and each Scene is comprised of three "Levels" and of five degree each.
Those three Levels, always in the same order, are as thus:
Level #1: Actional
Level #2: Emotional/Cultural
Level #3: Individual/Mental
I realized that is the answer as to how to employ a Part and was right there in Rudhyar's book all along.
The Part of Fortune for that natal chart I've submitted for consideration as to being actually that of the man known as Jesus/Yeshu'a of Nazareth, is in the 19th degree of Pisces and the Sabian Symbol for that degree is, "A Master Instructs His Disciple", and please note that the 19th degree of Pisces is the "First Level", of the second "Scene", of the Sign Pisces. [Scene Twenty-Three, as Rudhyar recognized and labled it... there are two Scenes per sign and Tweny -Four Scenes all together.]. As the first level is "Actional", then it was a direct and deliberate 'Action' on the part of the Man from Naz. in an endeavor to employ the Part of Fortune {...which, as I wrote above in the thread initiated by member Phoenix Venus, here in the Degree Symbolism sub-forum, titled "Part of Basis", that it is now a belief of mine that that this particular Part, the Part of Fortune, is about the Christ/Krishhna consciousness as you have been born to specifically need to be aware of, knowledgable of, to the consciousness of your own Soul/Spirit to achieve the most 'Fortunate' means by with to fulfill the life plan bestowed upon you by the Creator/Cosmos. ...those of you that have no belief in, or an aversion to the concept of, Christ or Krishna consciousness, just put it into the terms that you find appropriate to your own belief system or personally feel comfortable with....}
My own Part of Fortune is in the 25th degree of Leo and is also conjunct, in the exact same degree, the M.C. ...and as the M.C. is considered to be the "HOW" of the chart axis when applied spiritually, it is most auspicious to have ones Part of Fortune conj. their M.C. As the symbology for the 25th degree of Leo is; [ibid.]
"A LARGE CAMEL IS SEEN CROSSING A VAST AND FORBIDDING DESERT.
KEYNOTE: Self-sufficiency in the face of a long and exhausting adventure.
The camel here represents a living organism that is able to sustain itself independently of its environment at the start of a trying journey. (The original formulation of the symbol did not refer to 'a man on camel back.') The organism carries within itself what is absolutely needed for survival. At the deeper human level 'of consciousness it is easy to see the value of self-reliance and self-sufficiency as one enters the occult Path leading to a more dynamic and more inclusive realm of existence.
The camel carries water within its body, and it is said that the dromedary is able to utilize the matter stored in its large protuberance as food. The suggestion here is that in order to be released from bondage to the 'old world' we should be completely self-contained emotionally; having absorbed the mental food which this old culture has given us, we are ready to face 'the desert,' nothingness, Sunya . . . until we reach the 'new world.' We need TOTAL INDEPENDENCE from our surroundings and utter SELF-RELIANCE",...
...I had been taking this to mean that I should think of the symbology as something I had to employ in an 'Actional' manner, but now I truly understand, because of my re-reading and paying closer attention to the writing of Dane Rudhyar, that this is of an "Emotional/Cultural" concept.
So, then, what does that mean as being different from an "Action", that I need to be ever conscious of and therefore applying in a manner of, as to either of the other two concepts that I have been stating as being the alternatives? As I had been stating, until presently, that those two alternatives as to employing the symbology as an "action", being either that of an "attitude" or, that of a "frame of mind" {I may have used other terms in addition to those over the years... and to be honest I can't recall if I have or not... but if so, I did at some point start using just those two...or, at least those have been the other two examples most of the time} I reckon that which I've termed as an "attitude", are those symbols that are to be found in the level of "Emotional/Cultural. Because an "attitude" seems to be more of an emotional state than purely a mental one.
I took a break, after writing the above, and as I was talking to my roomate about this new [as it is 'new' to me, anyways] understanding, or insight that I've now acquired, the thought came to both of us that the "Third Level" would best be served by the term "Individual/ Rational Mental", as both "Attitude" and "Frame of Mind" are emotional oriented terms, and realizing that the antonym of the word "Emotional" is "Rational". That leaves me with the possibility of re-titling the three levels, for simplicitys' sake, as:
Level #1 "Actional"
Level #2 "Emotional"
Level #3 "Rational"
...albeit that does seem to me to be rather too simplistic and possibly an incomplete summarization, or a somewhat inadequate one ... or does it?
Well, here's what I believe is a very good example, that I can present, to demonstrate good cause for the reason of my conclusions...and just so happens to be from my own natal chart.
As my I.C. and natal Moon are in the 25th degree of Aquarius which was interpreted, defined and summarized by Dane Rudhyar as: [ibid.]
"AQUARIUS 25*: A BUTTERFLY WITH THE RIGHT WING MORE PERFECTLY FORMED.
KEYNOTE: The capacity to develop the rational and fully conscious aspect of the mind ahead of normal evolution.
What seems implied is a kind of mutation, and more specifically the special development of whatever is symbolized by the 'right side' of the organism. Here, however, the spiritual body (the butterfly) is what the Image represents. A strong process of conscious individualization is suggested, perhaps at the expense of the instinctual-emotional aspect of the personality (its 'left side').
This last symbol fittingly concludes this sixty-fifth sequence, which began with 'A disappointed woman . . .' The five-fold set deals with the management of human energies at the emotional level; here management means overcoming — this, on the basis of negative or ego-challenging experiences. This fifth symbol refers thus to the results of a TRANSMUTATION OF EMOTIONAL ENERGIES."
Well, I don't think I have to inform, or explain, to any of the Astrologers here at this forum that the natal Moon is the bestower of the "emotional energies" to a person... and as Rudhyar wrote, starting with his "Keynote", that "The capacity to develop the rational and fully conscious aspect of the mind... {and that} a strong process of conscious individualization is suggested, perhaps at the expense of the instinctual-emotional aspect of the personality {and that this}...deals with the management of human energies at the emotional level; here management means overcoming... {which leads to} ...the results {being that} of a TRANSMUTATION OF EMOTIONAL ENERGIES" please note that Dane Rudhyar polarized the concept of 'instinctual-emotional" with that of 'individual-rational', which I feel are better terms than those, of which, He did apply to the other two levels, he perceived, other than that of 'actional'.
What do all you members of the forum that have read the preceding have to say, though?
Comments, suggestions, thoughts?... all, of both emotional and rational origin, are welcome and sincerely invited.
I had a realization, a few evenings ago, concerning the Sabian Symbols.
Many of you have probably noticed that I often mention that the symbology has to be taken literally as either a direct action, attitude, or frame of mind as the means by which to employ it in regards as to the nature of that particular Part.
If you'll study what Rudhyar did in his book on the Sabian Symbols wherein he wrote of how he perceived the entire cycle of traqnsformation, that the 360 symbols do illustrate, as being composed of two hemi-cycles in four "Acts" [as like that of a staged 'play'.] and each Zodiacal Sign is composed of two "Scenes" [again, as like the 'Scenes' in a 'Play']. Each "Scene" is comprised of fifteen degrees, specifically the first fifteen degrees and the second fifteen degrees of that Sign, and each Scene is comprised of three "Levels" and of five degree each.
Those three Levels, always in the same order, are as thus:
Level #1: Actional
Level #2: Emotional/Cultural
Level #3: Individual/Mental
I realized that is the answer as to how to employ a Part and was right there in Rudhyar's book all along.
The Part of Fortune for that natal chart I've submitted for consideration as to being actually that of the man known as Jesus/Yeshu'a of Nazareth, is in the 19th degree of Pisces and the Sabian Symbol for that degree is, "A Master Instructs His Disciple", and please note that the 19th degree of Pisces is the "First Level", of the second "Scene", of the Sign Pisces. [Scene Twenty-Three, as Rudhyar recognized and labled it... there are two Scenes per sign and Tweny -Four Scenes all together.]. As the first level is "Actional", then it was a direct and deliberate 'Action' on the part of the Man from Naz. in an endeavor to employ the Part of Fortune {...which, as I wrote above in the thread initiated by member Phoenix Venus, here in the Degree Symbolism sub-forum, titled "Part of Basis", that it is now a belief of mine that that this particular Part, the Part of Fortune, is about the Christ/Krishhna consciousness as you have been born to specifically need to be aware of, knowledgable of, to the consciousness of your own Soul/Spirit to achieve the most 'Fortunate' means by with to fulfill the life plan bestowed upon you by the Creator/Cosmos. ...those of you that have no belief in, or an aversion to the concept of, Christ or Krishna consciousness, just put it into the terms that you find appropriate to your own belief system or personally feel comfortable with....}
My own Part of Fortune is in the 25th degree of Leo and is also conjunct, in the exact same degree, the M.C. ...and as the M.C. is considered to be the "HOW" of the chart axis when applied spiritually, it is most auspicious to have ones Part of Fortune conj. their M.C. As the symbology for the 25th degree of Leo is; [ibid.]
"A LARGE CAMEL IS SEEN CROSSING A VAST AND FORBIDDING DESERT.
KEYNOTE: Self-sufficiency in the face of a long and exhausting adventure.
The camel here represents a living organism that is able to sustain itself independently of its environment at the start of a trying journey. (The original formulation of the symbol did not refer to 'a man on camel back.') The organism carries within itself what is absolutely needed for survival. At the deeper human level 'of consciousness it is easy to see the value of self-reliance and self-sufficiency as one enters the occult Path leading to a more dynamic and more inclusive realm of existence.
The camel carries water within its body, and it is said that the dromedary is able to utilize the matter stored in its large protuberance as food. The suggestion here is that in order to be released from bondage to the 'old world' we should be completely self-contained emotionally; having absorbed the mental food which this old culture has given us, we are ready to face 'the desert,' nothingness, Sunya . . . until we reach the 'new world.' We need TOTAL INDEPENDENCE from our surroundings and utter SELF-RELIANCE",...
...I had been taking this to mean that I should think of the symbology as something I had to employ in an 'Actional' manner, but now I truly understand, because of my re-reading and paying closer attention to the writing of Dane Rudhyar, that this is of an "Emotional/Cultural" concept.
So, then, what does that mean as being different from an "Action", that I need to be ever conscious of and therefore applying in a manner of, as to either of the other two concepts that I have been stating as being the alternatives? As I had been stating, until presently, that those two alternatives as to employing the symbology as an "action", being either that of an "attitude" or, that of a "frame of mind" {I may have used other terms in addition to those over the years... and to be honest I can't recall if I have or not... but if so, I did at some point start using just those two...or, at least those have been the other two examples most of the time} I reckon that which I've termed as an "attitude", are those symbols that are to be found in the level of "Emotional/Cultural. Because an "attitude" seems to be more of an emotional state than purely a mental one.
I took a break, after writing the above, and as I was talking to my roomate about this new [as it is 'new' to me, anyways] understanding, or insight that I've now acquired, the thought came to both of us that the "Third Level" would best be served by the term "Individual/ Rational Mental", as both "Attitude" and "Frame of Mind" are emotional oriented terms, and realizing that the antonym of the word "Emotional" is "Rational". That leaves me with the possibility of re-titling the three levels, for simplicitys' sake, as:
Level #1 "Actional"
Level #2 "Emotional"
Level #3 "Rational"
...albeit that does seem to me to be rather too simplistic and possibly an incomplete summarization, or a somewhat inadequate one ... or does it?
Well, here's what I believe is a very good example, that I can present, to demonstrate good cause for the reason of my conclusions...and just so happens to be from my own natal chart.
As my I.C. and natal Moon are in the 25th degree of Aquarius which was interpreted, defined and summarized by Dane Rudhyar as: [ibid.]
"AQUARIUS 25*: A BUTTERFLY WITH THE RIGHT WING MORE PERFECTLY FORMED.
KEYNOTE: The capacity to develop the rational and fully conscious aspect of the mind ahead of normal evolution.
What seems implied is a kind of mutation, and more specifically the special development of whatever is symbolized by the 'right side' of the organism. Here, however, the spiritual body (the butterfly) is what the Image represents. A strong process of conscious individualization is suggested, perhaps at the expense of the instinctual-emotional aspect of the personality (its 'left side').
This last symbol fittingly concludes this sixty-fifth sequence, which began with 'A disappointed woman . . .' The five-fold set deals with the management of human energies at the emotional level; here management means overcoming — this, on the basis of negative or ego-challenging experiences. This fifth symbol refers thus to the results of a TRANSMUTATION OF EMOTIONAL ENERGIES."
Well, I don't think I have to inform, or explain, to any of the Astrologers here at this forum that the natal Moon is the bestower of the "emotional energies" to a person... and as Rudhyar wrote, starting with his "Keynote", that "The capacity to develop the rational and fully conscious aspect of the mind... {and that} a strong process of conscious individualization is suggested, perhaps at the expense of the instinctual-emotional aspect of the personality {and that this}...deals with the management of human energies at the emotional level; here management means overcoming... {which leads to} ...the results {being that} of a TRANSMUTATION OF EMOTIONAL ENERGIES" please note that Dane Rudhyar polarized the concept of 'instinctual-emotional" with that of 'individual-rational', which I feel are better terms than those, of which, He did apply to the other two levels, he perceived, other than that of 'actional'.
What do all you members of the forum that have read the preceding have to say, though?
Comments, suggestions, thoughts?... all, of both emotional and rational origin, are welcome and sincerely invited.
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