RarestWon717
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How important are houses and the sign the house is in in comparison to signs your natal planets are in and aspects to natal planets?
Question regarding houses
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JUPITERASC
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Houses are determined by the chosen house system
and the fact is
There are at least twenty or thirty different house systems
or means of dividing the so-called "birthchart"
into twelve segments of life activity.
Placidus is simply the default
In astrology, houses, mansions, or domains
represent general areas of life activity
and are the grounding areas or arenas of expression for planets.
Originally, the words "houses" and "signs" were interchangeable
A planet in the SIGN of Aries
was also a planet in the HOUSE of Aries
so that in effect houses as we know them today did not exist
Artificial divisions now known as houses
were attempts by early Greeks
and Hindus to measure strength "points" in the horoscope
which during 7th and 8th centuries AD were construed
or confused
as means of dividing the birth chart.
The ascendant and midheaven degrees
and their opposites
were definite power points
or areas of intense focus
but not necessarily the beginnings of a house or quadrant
previous detailed discussion
at WHOLE SIGNS http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...ad.php?t=42163
WHOLE SIGN OR PLACIDUS http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...ad.php?t=39669
THE HOUSE LOCATION OF A PLANET MAY CHANGE
DEPENDENT ON THE HOUSE SYSTEM CHOSEN
is important factor to keep in mind
JUPITERASC
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The significations of THE PLANET are most important
A PLANET acts
THEN
A HOUSE shows the area of life
in which the planet acts
as well as
how strongly the planet can act
i.e.
Most students are aware that houses are defined as
angular = 1st, 4th, 7th & 10th
succeedent = 2nd, 5th, 8th, & 11th
and
cadent = 3rd, 6th, 9th & 12th
as shown in the diagram below.
The houses are not all equal in strength and power.
If a planet is located in an angular house
it is much more forceful in its effects
than it would be in a cadent house.
On page 48 of Christian Astrology Lilly writes:
The angles are most powerful
the succeedents are next in virtue
the cadents poor and of little efficacy:
the succeedent houses follow the angles
the cadents come next [after] the succeedents.
In force and virtue they stand so in order:
1 10 7 4 11 5 9 3 2 8 6 12
AND THEN
the quality of the planet's expression
is influenced by the SIGN location of the PLANET
JUPITERASC
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Billybobenson
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The significations of THE PLANET are most important
A PLANET acts
THEN
A HOUSE shows the area of life
in which the planet acts
as well as
how strongly the planet can act
i.e.
Most students are aware that houses are defined as
angular = 1st, 4th, 7th & 10th
succeedent = 2nd, 5th, 8th, & 11th
and
cadent = 3rd, 6th, 9th & 12th
as shown in the diagram below.
The houses are not all equal in strength and power.
If a planet is located in an angular house
it is much more forceful in its effects
than it would be in a cadent house.
On page 48 of Christian Astrology Lilly writes:
The angles are most powerful
the succeedents are next in virtue
the cadents poor and of little efficacy:
the succeedent houses follow the angles
the cadents come next [after] the succeedents.
In force and virtue they stand so in order:
1 10 7 4 11 5 9 3 2 8 6 12
AND THEN
the quality of the planet's expression
is influenced by the SIGN location of the PLANET
Several things were wrong in that chart for the houses.
JUPITERASC
Well-known member
Billybobenson
Banned
you are entitled to your opinion
many would disagree
Would you care to explain why you believe each one is correct?
JUPITERASC
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We can assign "power of influence" to aspects, signs, and houses only after we understand something about the differences between them.
Aspects show the dynamic interplay between two focalized points, or planets, of psychic energy. The planets themselves are where the rubber meets the road because they are ACTION.
Signs are fields of energy, not points as the planets are. Whatever lies within them is immersed in their particular deep and inherent character. Recall, the "essential dignities" are based exclusively on signs, and they reveal "what is of the essence" of the native.
Houses are rooted in the earth. They show where the sky comes down to earth. Houses represent Passing Circumstances; they're the stage where life is acted out.
Thus the houses and the dignities based on them are "Accidental", rather than essential as are the signs.
I hesitate in calling one thing more important than another. "For want of a nail the shoe was lost...." Better, I think, is to see each as a vital component of the organic whole ,the native.
And as always, it depends on the individual chart.
My own personal chart features the following Preponderances: in signs, Fixed and Air with a negative preponderance in Water; in houses, the Watery trigon, Succedent; in aspects, the Square is preponderant. A preponderance is not to be ignored. They are determinant in personality and course of life. Each of these conditions provides significant information about the native and a different perspective for the astrologer.
Aspects show the dynamic interplay between two focalized points, or planets, of psychic energy. The planets themselves are where the rubber meets the road because they are ACTION.
Signs are fields of energy, not points as the planets are. Whatever lies within them is immersed in their particular deep and inherent character. Recall, the "essential dignities" are based exclusively on signs, and they reveal "what is of the essence" of the native.
Houses are rooted in the earth. They show where the sky comes down to earth. Houses represent Passing Circumstances; they're the stage where life is acted out.
Thus the houses and the dignities based on them are "Accidental", rather than essential as are the signs.
I hesitate in calling one thing more important than another. "For want of a nail the shoe was lost...." Better, I think, is to see each as a vital component of the organic whole ,the native.
And as always, it depends on the individual chart.
My own personal chart features the following Preponderances: in signs, Fixed and Air with a negative preponderance in Water; in houses, the Watery trigon, Succedent; in aspects, the Square is preponderant. A preponderance is not to be ignored. They are determinant in personality and course of life. Each of these conditions provides significant information about the native and a different perspective for the astrologer.