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Kaiousei no Senshi said:
I understand that, but I'm not so big a fan of the idea signs and planets overlapping each other, it sounds kind of silly. Well, perhaps not exactly "silly", but close enough. I had thought before that the could be twins, but even then, I would probably not bother to use the lesser-known of the twins. Between the planet Neptune and the hypothetical planet Poseidon, I'm going to choose Neptune every time.
No it's not silly, this word you use it's wrong. Think that Neptune and the uranian Poseidon are both doctors whit same speciality. Going to the same doctor always is not wrong, but he can mistake sometimes, so having more than one doctor with same speciality around can help. In history, astrologers and astronomers were upset they had too few planets to use, today we have too many, our wish came true... so why do we refuse them now? when we wished for them for so long. We don't know what we want from astrology or astronomy, WE are the silly ones to refuse the new objects.
Kaiousei no Senshi said:
I do like the idea of using different methods to get the same results, it would be interesting to see several examples of such. How about this though.
Very well, I understand your concern and you are not the only one whit this question.
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The 1st example ( Horary chart ):
A guy passionated to TV martial arts wanted soon to practice it himself, a real martial art, he asked advice around, but no luck in finding important information to his concern. He eventualy wanted to ask a horary about it. We should name him mister X.
I had to find the answer. Firstly we should do traditionaly, then we should try verify if it's true by using uranians.
Question " Will I ever have the chance to do martial arts? ", Background information... He asked several times about it, for many years, but it's the first time when mister X thinked about horary consultation.
ASC is Taurus, so the querent is Venus. Venus is at domicile sign ( Libra ) also it's co-significator, the Moon is also at domicile sign ( Cancer ). The answer is clearly NO cause Moon squares Venus. They are both in powerfull signs, so niether planet is giving up ( not just yet ). Venus near Sun is combustion, making it weaker. Venus is also in unfortunate house ( 6th house ), meaning he could be very busy in other business, too indicisive whit his time and also too lazy to do a sport. Venus separating from Lilith and South Node, could mean blockage and even karmical restriction, this can also show he was concerned about this for years to start doing a martial arts. Venus also separates from a malefic fixed star Vindemiatrix, which means loss, fail, he cannot start a martial art, cause to many more important matters blocks his wish to do it. Venus is weak, Moon wins the square aspect, so it's a NO answer.
Now, about the uranians. I restricted the other uranians, except Kronous and Admetos. Here is something really simple, Moon separates from Kronous Rx meaning long years of concerns about the problem, bieng Rx means he didn't have the chance to do anything about trieng to practice martial arts. Kronous means also mastery, he wants the best martial art, not something simple, he wants the best, which of course is quite hard. Now look at the Admetos in 1st house, that tells a lot. Admetos is the planet of focus or scatter. Bieng Rx it's a clear indicator of scatter, he didn't do it at the right time and also, bieng in a fixed sign shows bieng lazy to do it also. The school of Hamburg said Admetos has affinity rulership towards Virgo, this shows bieng the ruler of 6th ( hypotheticaly of course ), meaning he is too busy and has other important matters to attend instead to practice a complicated sport like a martial art. Admetos means also sacrifice for a better purpose, meaning that a complicated martial art is not so important to his future, he has a more greater purpose in life and needs to let go to his passion to martial arts. Admetos can show confusion too. Now for something to show a NO answer, 9th house reprezents martial arts, ruled by Saturn squares Admetos, showing a NO answer, there are to many blockages in life.
After the horary, Mister X confirmed the answers, they were true, he gave up on martial arts, he is to busy to start a complicated martial art ( he doesn't want simple ones, he dislikes them ). He is also sometimes too lazy to do a sport. He eventualy gave up seeing martial arts at TV and thinking about them, cause more busy he became.
So uranians at Horary works! it is confirmed.
The 2nd example ( A famous natal chart )
Albert Einstien, we all know who he is and we all know about his genius mind. But can this great inteligent mind be shown using uranians???
We can see the Mercury/Saturn/POF conjunction which is quite special, shows great mind, bieng in Aries, high mental capacities whit pioneer type of acting in life. But there are many, many persons whit Mercury/Saturn conjunction in Aries, more rare is whit POF, but unique is whit the uranian Kronous. A Kronous/Saturn/Mercury/POF stelium in 10th in Aries, it's not only very rare, it's unique, only one or two persons in this world can have such stelium. Kronous means mastery, extraordinary things, showing the concretisation of Einstiens geniousy. So the uranian was the final ingredient to his master mind. Kronous/Saturn/Mercury/POF stelium in 10th in Aries will not repeat again, maybe in a few centuries or milleniums, so this proves how unique Einstiens's mind can be.
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Kaiousei no Senshi said:
Do you think the hypothetical planets form an argument against astrology? Kind of a "theological" speed bump?
No, they don't form any arguments against astrology. Bieng new doesn't mean replacing the old standards, they can be used togheter. Hypotheticals can show 'hidden details' which are harder to spot using standard methods.
Kaiousei no Senshi said:
I'm not a big fan of comparing cells to planets. Especially when it's a science/astrological comparion, it seems a little...odd to me. I do get the point, though. I would agree that the Nemisis system (should it prove to exist) would augment our own, though I'm not so inclined to believe ours would influence it. It orbits us, not the other way around.
Wrong! think of Heliocentric and Geocentric perspective in astrology. In Geocentric, The Sun affects us bieng borned on Earth, it shows our personality, ego, healith, our way of bieng etc. In Heliocentric, The Earth affects us how we want to become, our stability, what kind of personality we would like to become and what kind of energy we atract by it's position around the zodiac. Sun and Earth affect eachother, even if Earth moves around the Sun. Now think in a larger scale, Nemesis affects us, like using the far objects, such as fixed stars for example, or extra-solar hypotheticals. If you were borned in the Nemesis System, or if you use the central planet calculation for your chart as Nemesis, you would have the position of the Solar System and the planets in the chart, they would have thier influence to the Nemesis system as well, even if Nemesis is a binary system which rotates around our Solar System. So Nemesis and our system affect eachother after all, like the Heliocentric and Geocentric perspective, but in a larger scale.
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Kaiousei no Senshi said:
The supposed orbit for Nibiru is so achingly slow, would it really be worth it to observe him in natal charts and other such things?
That doesn't stop me by using it, there are ways to use it even if it's slow. Think of the Fixed Stars, they move 1 degree per 72 years, but they are extremely usefull in astrology ( the destiny lies on the stars ).
Here is a technique how to use Nibiru.
Example: Natal chart using Nibiru harmonics on the spiritual person O.M.Aivanhov.
Nibiru is the planet of paranormal, ufo's, other worlds, other dimensions, far vibrationaly information, gate to divinity or infernal entities, bio-energy, teleportation, deep esoteric initiation etc.
His Nibiru is at 7th house, all alone, so for the first view it might seem to be useless in our chart. But not to fear, there is a great technique to such problem.
Harmonics is a complicated method, but it always solves the hard problems, it always makes complicated things simple and vice-versa. The best harmonic for Nibiru is 5th, meaning talents, creativity. 360/5=72, which means the quintile aspect, it's also a very spiritual aspect, shows spirituality and inner abilities which are the results to his faith. Nibiru is at 24 Taurus, converting to decimal degrees, it will result to 54, multiplieng to 5th harmonic will result 54*5= 270. At the decimal positions, the 5th harmonic Nibiru is right at Saturn at 270 decimal position, it's a almost perfect conjunction. Going back to zodiacal position degrees, 5th harmonic Nibiru is right at non-harmonic Saturn ( or 1st harmonic chart factor ). Meaning his spirituality shown whit paranormal and unsual talents by Nibiru is right on Saturn which shown concretisation, materialisation, crystalisation ( he could read minds, he could materialize anything using etherical energies etc. ). Saturn in 3rd shows lot's of books at old age, but the 1st harmonic Nibiru is at 7th house, while 5th harmonic Nibiru is at Saturn. Bieng right on the 3rd house cusp whit the influence from 1st harmonic Nibiru, this can show that Aivanhov didn't write the books, other people did, since they were all fascinated by this personality. Harmonics prove Nibiru works, so slow moving planets doesn't bother the astrologer if he knows what he is doing, actualy the slower the planet the stronger the influence cause it sits to much at a certain degree.
Here is another example, going back to Einstiens chart.
Going back to Einstien we could talk about the teleport experiment he did ( Philaldelphia experiment ). Scorpio is intercepted by 5th house, this shows he his excelent at all the creativity he makes, but interceptations can show a problem. Using the modern ruler of Scorpio, Pluto we can guess this means creativity that demands lots of energy, both personal and electric ( or nuclear ). Pluto whit Nibiru at 24Taurus can show an experiment, which demands massive power, it's also outer dimensional/ time-space bending / teleporation ( Nibiru indicating ), can always be out of control ( Pluto indication ). Algol is right at Nibiru/Pluto conjunction, bieng a malefic star can show failing the experiment, whit ugly results and deaths. Pluto is slightly squaring Uranus in Virgo that could show, technological problems, Pluto is in Taurus, technological problems because all the utilities are too primitive to Einstien's ideas and experiments.
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So here is your explination, I hope all understood my huge reply ( whit lot's of grammer mistakes I presume ).
That's all.