What do you really think happens after death?
- Thread starter Witchyone
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Cold Fusion
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david starling
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That's the people who doubt their own self-worth.
Witchyone
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Maybe you need a change of place or perspective. I see a lot of people saying terrible things about others online, but in real life, I mostly see people being decent to one another. It's one more reason to prefer real life to this bizarre online world we inhabit.
IleneK
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You may want to consider examining the lens through which you see things.
Dirius
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Well it depends on what the source of your pain is. Are you worried about him? or is your desire to see him and have a final moment that is causing your pain?
Perhaps your attempt at finding a reliable theory about life after death to validate your wish of the inmortality of the soul is because, in your mind, it would somehow imply there is still and will always be a connection between both of you.
If you think of life as a book, we humans would be the characters in the story, and while many of the characters die or dissapear from the pages, they still belong in our story. The connection doesn't exist because there is an attachment, but merely because they still influence our stories. Every character has a story arc. His one ended. And while he may not be here, his connection to you is already inmortal and unbreakable.
In a way you can say that our connections always make souls and people inmortal. Even after their journey has ended.
I can offer a life after death opinion, however that would constitute into going to my personal belief of a fated universe, which may not be compatible with your view.
Anyways, I am sorry for your loss. Hope you are ok.
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Witchyone
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Thank you so much for your thoughts. You're welcome to share your ideas about it. I don't know if I believe in fate. I'm annoyingly agnostic about almost everything.
You're very perceptive. I think several thoughts are plaguing me. I feel guilty and regretful because we didn't see each other often these last several years. I'm tormented by the way she died because she suffered for quite a while. I'm upset that her son doesn't have a mother anymore and now has to live his entire adulthood without her. I'm upset that she didn't get a chance to fulfill all of her dreams. Primarily, as you note, I'm having trouble accepting that I will never again see her (or any of those other people I lost).
Longing for being reunited with loved ones in the sweet hereafter was something the adults who raised me talked about often. It's how everyone I knew coped with the reality of death. I internalized the expectation as essential, but I no longer have the belief that it will happen.
JUPITERASC
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There is no self.
Once the residue defilements sustain
they get a chance to surface again.
Dependent origination is for all beings
those take birth.
Humans can develop a skill to break that upadana
(fuel by defilements).
Upadana paccaya bhava
Anupada paccaya nibbana
Views are micca ditthi.
Samma ditthi helps to clean the defilements
before it becomes no view
as there are no defilements to observe by the consciousness.
Consciousness is important tool in purification.
It is the platform where dependent origination is witnessed
and permanent restfulness achieved.
As long as we buy habits, we consume birth.
As habits consolidated
it acts evertime when it get a chance as rebirth.
Deathlessness is by not giving a chance to birth.
Otherwise rebirth is default option.
Every moment is the fresh moment
where our presentation or portrayal is born.
Whether it is effortless freedom due to purity
or just an easy repetition
as rebirth due to habits centered in defilement
is stock/inventory measure.
And the load (work) to be done .
Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu
Witchyone
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JUPITERASC
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Ajahn Brahm - Evidence of reincarnation
How to see past lives and why its important
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-CuQlOWabA
JUPITERASC
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JUPITERASC
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All living beings have positive, innate qualities
so
it's not that you have to become someone completely different
you need to bring out the natural qualities within you.
Similarly, you can practice Dharma in daily life
it's not that you have to do something completely different.
17th Karmapa
so
it's not that you have to become someone completely different
you need to bring out the natural qualities within you.
Similarly, you can practice Dharma in daily life
it's not that you have to do something completely different.
17th Karmapa
JUPITERASC
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JUPITERASC
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Our life is fragile
and
it is passing,
like a lamp running out of fuel
We must
make the most of its light
while we have it
17th Karmapa
and
it is passing,
like a lamp running out of fuel
We must
make the most of its light
while we have it
17th Karmapa
david starling
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If reincarnation is a fact, this IS life after death!