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Unread 03-29-2017, 03:21 PM
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What happens after you die?

I think nothing happens.

Or at least we don't go to heaven or hell.

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Re: What happens after you die?

Well, it all depends on your belief system, doesn't it?
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Well, it all depends on your belief system, doesn't it?
Yeah, but most belief systems are completely false.
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Re: What happens after you die?

We rot until there is merely bone left.
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Re: What happens after you die?

We continue on as demons repeating a new life over and over for eternity as punishment
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Re: What happens after you die?

No one that is on this forum knows.

Those who know don't talk. Those who don't know can't stop talking.
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No one that is on this forum knows.

Those who know don't talk and are dead. Those who don't know can't stop talking about it.
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and your proof for that statement is....???
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and your proof for that statement is....???
Can you prove these beliefs?
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Re: What happens after you die?

Want to find out?
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Re: What happens after you die?

There are other ways to find out besides dying. However, they all require an enormous amount of work in the deeper levels of esoteric Buddhism, Taoism, or any other religion with an esoteric section.

And, just like the experience of life, the experience of death is undoubtedly different for each of us. People who have very limited and narrow lives probably have a narrow and limited experience between lives.

Of course, if you are an atheist, and you believe that there is nothing after death, then none of this means anything at all.
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DON'T "go into the Light"! It's a trap!
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Re: What happens after you die?

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I think nothing happens.

Or at least we don't go to heaven or hell.

Opinions vary

if we keep in mind that ours is an International Forum
not limited solely to western concepts of “life” and “death”
and
that not all those interested in "what happens after death" are necessarily motivated by fear

but instead

many are motivated quite simply by a common sense need to prepare for the inevitable

and so


for many the Tibetan Book of the Dead is a kind of Baedeker for the afterlife

and like the best guidebooks
its reassuring refrain is
"Don't panic!"

According to Highest Yoga Tantra
from which The Tibetan Book of the Dead derives
only during the process of dying can we achieve liberation from the cycle of existence.
Advanced yogis can make trial runs
by inducing a deathlike state
but after death the rest of us
must try to remember what we've read in The Tibetan Book of the Dead
and put it into practice.
Even the totally unprepared needn't despair, however
provided a qualified guru is on hand to read out the relevant bits to our corpse.
Ideally, he should have a soothing, melodious voice, to calm us down.
The stakes are high:
either we become enlightened and attain buddhahood
or we are reborn to experience all over again the sufferings of birth
old age, sickness and death,
stranded in "the swamp of cyclic existence".

The first complete translation of this classic Buddhist text
on the journey through living and dying
is graced with opening words by His Holiness The Dalai Lama
and the Penguin Deluxe Edition of The Tibetan Book of the Dead
is: "immaculately rendered in an English both graceful and precise."
Translated with the close support of leading contemporary masters
and hailed as “a tremendous accomplishment,”
this book faithfully presents the insights and intentions of the original work.
It includes one of the most detailed and compelling
descriptions of the after-death state in world literature
and practices that can transform our experience of daily life
as well as guidance on helping those who are dying
and
is an inspirational perspective on coping with bereavement

Currently available on amazon
The Tibetan Book of the Dead: The First Complete Translation
by Padmasambhava, Karma Lingpa, Gyurme Dorje (Translator)
Graham Coleman (Goodreads Author) (Editor)
Thupten Jinpa (Editor), Dalai Lama XIV (Contributor)
Namka Chokyi Gyatso (Contributor)

alternative perspectives include being Agnostic aka undecided
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Re: What happens after you die?

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Yeah, but most belief systems are completely false.
How do you know that? Can you prove it with substantial arguments? No, so, until then it is best to keep those judgments inside.
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Re: What happens after you die?

There was a consistent theme in the Classical world, that initiation into the various "Myseteries" prepared one to be in control when the time came for the initiate's own death. It is argued that the various Egyptian "books of the dead" and the Tibetan "book of the dead" were (are) not mere funeary guides, but were primarily intended as texts of initiation so that initiates would later, at the time of their death, know what to expect, and what to do for their own spiritual advancement through the death experience...
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How do you know that? Can you prove it with substantial arguments? No, so, until then it is best to keep those judgments inside.
Why don't YOU prove to me that your belief exists, instead of making believe in something that has no evidence.

Are you going to tell me the Flying Spaghetti Monster exists even though there is no evidence for it?

As Ayn Rand said, "You never have to prove a negative; that is a rule of logic."
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Re: What happens after you die?

Try to imagine what it would be like to go to sleep and never wake up... Now try to imagine what it was like to wake up having never gone to sleep.

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Re: What happens after you die?

I have attempted to zone into what it was like before i was born, and all i remember is complete nothingness, and the more i look i just get **** scared.

Perhaps live the life you have, your time will come when it comes early or not.
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Re: What happens after you die?

Do you really want to know or do you just want to argue?

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Re: What happens after you die?

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Can you prove these beliefs?
No.

Neither can you (or anyone else) prove that they don't.

So what we have is a stalemate.

This is why I have respect for others' belief systems.* I also respect those who choose not to have a belief system.

*When I say "belief systems" I mean that - not "cults".
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Re: What happens after you die?

There is a class of knowledge that cannot be gotten purely from reason and discussion.

Describe sex with most evocative and descriptive language you can muster and the virgin will still not know what sex truly *is*. You can philosophize all day long about fighting techniques, but combat takes on a new reality when you're bleeding from your nose.

Anybody who was able to experience death and is still walking the Earth will not be able to make you believe anything. What you see as empty words and analogies is to them a grasping of something barely explainable through language.

Nothing trumps direct experience.
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I think the Evolutionary Astrologers believe that we reincarnate after death.
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You have a real attitude, know-it-all, foolish-arrogance problem. Either you will be able to overcome it because you aren't all that young either, or that will unfortunately be your ruin! You start threads asking questions but when you start getting responses, you mock and shun them. That proves you just start threads to get attention but have scant interest in actually learning.

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Why don't YOU prove to me that your belief exists, instead of making believe in something that has no evidence.

Are you going to tell me the Flying Spaghetti Monster exists even though there is no evidence for it?

As Ayn Rand said, "You never have to prove a negative; that is a rule of logic."

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You can't prove to a staunch materialist that anything exists other than the Material-realm. This thread should have been titled, "When you die, you're dead, end of story, and you can't prove otherwise!" Then it's just, Agree to Disagree, end of story.
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Re: What happens after you die?

Or better yet, don't make the thread in the first place.

On a related note; flying spaghetti monster, Ayn Rand? He should add a couple hundred pounds and a fedora so that he can become a real "skeptic".
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