Traditional Astrology Non-sticky Discussion Thread

I'm really trying to understand this, Waybread. First, nobody said Sahl was an Arab. That he worked for Arabs during the Perso-Arabic (or Arabic, if you prefer) period is not in dispute.

Yet calling it the Arabic period after the language is in some way offensive to you because there were very few actually Arab astrologers? Or because there were astrologers of different ethnicities?

I think you're just trolling here.

waybread said:

Who said anything about "politically correct"? That's your perjorative term, not mine. It's also your huge knee-jerk reactivation point.

You go away, first.

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Oddity said:

I'm really trying to understand this, Waybread. First, nobody said Sahl was an Arab. That he worked for Arabs during the Perso-Arabic (or Arabic, if you prefer) period is not in dispute.

Yet calling it the Arabic period after the language is in some way offensive to you because there were very few actually Arab astrologers? Or because there were astrologers of different ethnicities?

I think you're just trolling here.

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This is crazy-making Oddity. My whole point was that the generic term "Arab" is a misnomer. We can call people what they would have called themselves. No?

You know absolutely what I meant. If you're confused, just re-read my posts. Only this time, try not to get so reactivated and knee-jerk when I talk about being "sensitive." It's not a synonym for "politically correct" in your pejorative sense.

Language and nuances change over time. Like it or don't.

You know very well that 'm not trolling, and I find it despicable that you would use that term towards me simply because you dislike my posts. Surely you have some kind of intellectual argument to substitute for puerile name-calling.

waybread said:

This is crazy-making Oddity. My whole point was that the generic term "Arab" is a misnomer. We can call people what they would have called themselves. No?
You know absolutely what I meant. If you're confused, just re-read my posts. Only this time, try not to get so reactivated and knee-jerk when I talk about being "sensitive." It's not a synonym for "politically correct" in your pejorative sense.
Language and nuances change over time. Like it or don't.
You know very well that 'm not trolling, and I find it despicable that you would use that term towards me simply because you dislike my posts. Surely you have some kind of intellectual argument to substitute for puerile name-calling.

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waybread said:

My point is that you're not an expert on the scope of traditional astrology
you didn't read the articles I linked on self-identified astrologers using the outers
as supplementary data points
and you are manifestly wrong
in concluding that
7 and only 7 planets are consistently used in traditional astrology.

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you keep missing the gist WB
discuss modern outers as supplemenatry data points
BUT NOT ON THIS BOARD

it seems you have not read the rules of this board
you are posting on our traditional board
on which a moderator clearly states:
yet you fail to comprehend
that our traditional board excludes modern outers
and FURTHERMORE

this board is our traditional board
and
is a place where
modern outers as "supplementary data points"
are according to our traditional board rules - totally irrelevant
and I quote


08-19-2018, 05:49 PM
Osamenor
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