piercethevale
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Greetings.
The are two formulae both labeled as the Part of Astrology by some sources, some label them both as the Part of Messages & Astrology.
In my comprehensive list that is in this sub-forum [an ongoing project and far from conclusive or finalized] I have the two Parts, the formulae for which are are:
Asc. + Mercury - Uranus labeled as also possibly being, as taken from what sources I was able to find, "Eccentricity"
...and...
Asc. + Uranus - Mercury as also possibly being "Originality" and possibly also "Eccentricity"
Many of you probably already know that I consider Asc. + Mercury - Uranus to be the formula that is concerned with Astrology and that I have termed the the latter as "Omens & Signs"
I've finally come to a much more studied conclusion.
Asc. + Mercury - Uranus is, yes, about Astrology but it is more than that. It is about those "signs" we can find in the stars and all things in nature that anyone with the right tools, knowledge or appropriate facility of intelligence can see, discern, and interpret.
Asc. + Uranus - Mercury is about those "signs" and, or, "omens" that are given to each one of us personally...they may even be those concerning you exclusively.
I will use the two Parts derived from my own natal chart for examples in demonstration here.
My Asc. + Mercury - Uranus, that which I have been labeling as solely a Part of Astrology, is derived to be at 29* Leo 48' 28", that is to say it is in the 30th degree of Leo and the Sabian Symbol for that degree is [from Dane Rudhyar's book on the Sabian Symbols, "An Astrological Mandala"]
"LEO 30°: AN UNSEALED LETTER.
KEYNOTE: The realization by the individual that all thoughts and all messages are inevitably to be shared with all men.
Coming as it does as the end of this tenth scene and linked with the last degree of the zodiacal sign, Leo, this symbol seems at first quite puzzling; when it has been thought of as an isolated symbol, its essential meaning has not been apparent. The fact that a letter is unsealed does not imply a trust that other people will not read its contents, but rather the idea that the contents are for all men to read. The letter contains a public message in the sense that when man has reached the stage of true mental repolarization and development — which we see in the very first symbol for Leo — he has actually become a participant in the One Mind of humanity. Nothing can really be hidden, except superficially and for a brief time. What any man thinks and deeply realizes becomes the property of all men. Nothing is more senseless than possessiveness in the realm of ideas. If God speaks to a man, Man hears the word. Nothing can remain permanently 'sealed'.
As this thirtieth sequence of five symbols ends, it is made clear to us, and particularly to the inherently proud Leo type, that all that takes form within the mind of a man belongs to all men. Communication and SHARING must always prevail over the will to glorify oneself by claiming sole possession of ideas and information. "
In the eleven years I have been posting online in a number of forums throughout the internet I have run into many an astrologer that charges for their services as an astrologer and everyone of them that claims to have "discovered" a technique, that has become privy to special knowledge, has stated that they don't share it because it is proprietary and to their advantage to keep it their secret.
I, on the other hand, share everything I discover. I have even posted online just about every bit of information in the book I wrote and by doing so I knowingly, and willingly, forfeited any and all royalties due me.
What is derived from the other formula, Asc. + Uranus - Mercury, that Part I have been labeling the "Part of Omens & Signs is found to be at 04* Aquarius 32' 16", that is the 5th degree of Aquarius and the Sabian Symbol for which is [ibid.]
"AQUARIUS 5°: A COUNCIL OF ANCESTORS IS SEEN IMPLEMENTING THE EFFORTS OF A YOUNG LEADER.
KEYNOTE: The Root foundation of past performances which power and sustain whatever decision is made in a crisis by an individual.
The whole past of mankind stands behind any individual effort, especially in times of critical decisions. The endeavor of the priests who built the California missions had behind it the whole past of Catholic proselytizing, i.e. the attempt to bring the 'Good News' to all people of the Earth. Every individual is far more dependent upon the strength of their ancestors' achievements — or oppressed by their failures and lack of vision — than they usually believe. This can mean a hidden foundation of individual strength, or the inertia of a tradition unable to transcend its limited origins.
This is the last symbol in the sixty-first five-fold sequence. It suggests that in many situations RELIANCE UPON PRECEDENTS will enable the aspirant to greatness to tap the power of their deepest roots."
I have been the recipient of a number of personally given signs over the years, mostly in the last 22 years. I mentioned a number of them here in this forum over the last eleven years I have been a member.
As I am lead to, advised to, believe that I am the soul reborn, reincarnated, that Rudolph Steiner predicted would return in time for the beginning of the 21st century and also mention by author Trevor Ravenscroft in his book "The Cup of Destiny and which I no longer have any doubt that I am. I satisfy all the criteria set by Steiner...and such was confirmed by two highly reputable, yet independent of one another, clairvoyants... then I am of the bloodline of the House of David. Aside from all of that I am the only one that did show up in the time frame predicted that accomplished what was predicted. [or I probably should say prophesied?] Allegedly this bloodline I can trace back through my mothers family all the way back to the first century A.D. to the area now known as Glastonbury, England and either Joseph/Yosef of Arimathea or James/Ya'aqov, brother of Jesus/Yeshu'a, and the First Bishop of Jerusalem. The two came to Breton in 42 A.D. [C.E.. for those that prefer] and established the very first Church of Christianity, predating that of Peter's in Rome, as to which the Roman Catholic church no longer denies and each took a local woman to be a wife. Their progeny continued on and my mothers' family Richard and Margery Hough [nee Clowes] Quakers, left Cheshire, England in 1683 and came to Pennsylvania aboard Captain Cook's ship, the H.M.S. Endeavor.. Cheshire is about 180 miles North of Glastonbury.
Thus being said, you can figure out for yourselves just who my ancestors are.
Usually I resort to using that chart I produced that I am convinced of as being the true natal chart of Jesus/Yeshu'a of Nazareth. It is the reason I titled the book I wrote about it "A Template for the Time" because it is a template from which to study and understand astrology.I like to sometimes refer to it as "the Rosetta Stone" of astrology.
But the Sabian Symbols that correspond to these same two Parts that have been derived from that natal chart are too difficult for me as yet to understand as how they relate to their different precepts as concerning the Man from Nazareth. I may yet figure it out or surely someone, someday, will do so.
I do, however, see some interesting takes on the two same Parts derived from the natal chart of the USA [the "Zero Hour" chart, 12:00:01 a.m. July 4, 1776 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania] as the one derived from the formula Asc. + Mercury - Uranus is also the same degree, the 8th of Gemini, as is the Part of Destiny [M.C. + Sun - Moon] [ibid.]
"GEMINI 8°: AROUSED STRIKERS SURROUND A FACTORY.
KEYNOTE: The disruptive power of the ambitious mind upon the organic wholeness of human relationship.
We are dealing in this sequence of symbols with man's discovery of the new powers residing in his special contribution to the total organism of this planet Earth — his consciousness and aggressive mind. The first stage (Phase 66) dealt with oil, the typical form of energy which the modern mind has made available. (These symbols were revealed before atomic energy was even thought of as a practical possibility.) Now we see in this new symbol a pictorial indication of what the use of this intellect-generated energy inevitably leads to: industrial unrest and violence. As man manages to rape the earth in order to demonstrate his power and intensify his pleasures and his sense of proud mastery, conflicts and disruptive processes are inevitably initiated.
The arousal is presented to us here in its collective social form because we have reached the emotional-cultural level. The type of power generated by the analytical intellectual faculties is essentially disruptive; it is based on the destruction of matter, and invites egocentric hoarding and spoliation — and, in general, privileges of one kind or another. This leads to a REVOLT AGAINST PRIVILEGES."
The Astrological Part derived from the formula Asc. + Uranus - Mercury for that same natal chart for the U.S.A. is the same degree, the 6th of Pisces, as the 12th House Cusp of the same natal chart. The 12th House cusp reveals through the Sabian Symbolism found for it's Sign and degree what that entity believes is the answer to the greatest problem confronting the world.
I find this most intriguing as to what president Trump recently requested and was done at his behest. [ibid.]
"PISCES 6°: A PARADE OF ARMY OFFICERS IN FULL DRESS.
KEYNOTE: The dedication of human beings to the service of their community, and the assurance that it will be emotionally sustained by the people at large.
Here we see at work the emotion-rousing appeal of social activities which demand the surrendering by the individual of his personal way of life, his opinions and his comfort. The socializing process is pictured in all its intensity but what is implied even more is the support that the socialized person can expect from the collectivity if he is ready to act and to sacrifice himself for the nation or the group.
This is the first symbol of the sixty-eighth series. It allegorizes the power generated by a totally accepted and enforced collective discipline, and the exaltation and mass response which he who has achieved this self-surrender to a social tradition can expect in return.
The Keyword is GROUP-RESPONSIBILITY."
I do have to wonder if the president, or one of his key advisers, has caught on to what I've been demonstrating here on the internet as for the reason putting on that Mayday parade president Trump wanted surely had a very positive impact on American society as a whole as whether or not anyone consciously realized it, they would have had to subconsciously recognize it as being that "answer" symbolically and found themselves inexplicably pleased at once with the president and the state of the nation.
It's almost noon here and I've not slept yet since yesterday afternoon when I had a long nap... but a "nap'" is all it was. So, I must close now but I will return to further analyze what these Parts from the USA natal chart might indicate through their Sabian Symbols regarding the two different Astrological Parts as they concern the USA... or I should say, I'll give it my best shot.
If not later today then hopefully before the week is over. I don't spend as much time on writing for the internet as I used to do ... I've learned my limitations so as to keep myself from ''burning out". It's not how fast you run the race, that is all important, it's whether you finish it or not.
Anyone else have any examples for these two different formulae derived from their own natal chart or that of someone of historical or biographical notoriety that they can demonstrate in support of my theory, or otherwise, please feel free and most welcome by me to post here and do so.
The are two formulae both labeled as the Part of Astrology by some sources, some label them both as the Part of Messages & Astrology.
In my comprehensive list that is in this sub-forum [an ongoing project and far from conclusive or finalized] I have the two Parts, the formulae for which are are:
Asc. + Mercury - Uranus labeled as also possibly being, as taken from what sources I was able to find, "Eccentricity"
...and...
Asc. + Uranus - Mercury as also possibly being "Originality" and possibly also "Eccentricity"
Many of you probably already know that I consider Asc. + Mercury - Uranus to be the formula that is concerned with Astrology and that I have termed the the latter as "Omens & Signs"
I've finally come to a much more studied conclusion.
Asc. + Mercury - Uranus is, yes, about Astrology but it is more than that. It is about those "signs" we can find in the stars and all things in nature that anyone with the right tools, knowledge or appropriate facility of intelligence can see, discern, and interpret.
Asc. + Uranus - Mercury is about those "signs" and, or, "omens" that are given to each one of us personally...they may even be those concerning you exclusively.
I will use the two Parts derived from my own natal chart for examples in demonstration here.
My Asc. + Mercury - Uranus, that which I have been labeling as solely a Part of Astrology, is derived to be at 29* Leo 48' 28", that is to say it is in the 30th degree of Leo and the Sabian Symbol for that degree is [from Dane Rudhyar's book on the Sabian Symbols, "An Astrological Mandala"]
"LEO 30°: AN UNSEALED LETTER.
KEYNOTE: The realization by the individual that all thoughts and all messages are inevitably to be shared with all men.
Coming as it does as the end of this tenth scene and linked with the last degree of the zodiacal sign, Leo, this symbol seems at first quite puzzling; when it has been thought of as an isolated symbol, its essential meaning has not been apparent. The fact that a letter is unsealed does not imply a trust that other people will not read its contents, but rather the idea that the contents are for all men to read. The letter contains a public message in the sense that when man has reached the stage of true mental repolarization and development — which we see in the very first symbol for Leo — he has actually become a participant in the One Mind of humanity. Nothing can really be hidden, except superficially and for a brief time. What any man thinks and deeply realizes becomes the property of all men. Nothing is more senseless than possessiveness in the realm of ideas. If God speaks to a man, Man hears the word. Nothing can remain permanently 'sealed'.
As this thirtieth sequence of five symbols ends, it is made clear to us, and particularly to the inherently proud Leo type, that all that takes form within the mind of a man belongs to all men. Communication and SHARING must always prevail over the will to glorify oneself by claiming sole possession of ideas and information. "
In the eleven years I have been posting online in a number of forums throughout the internet I have run into many an astrologer that charges for their services as an astrologer and everyone of them that claims to have "discovered" a technique, that has become privy to special knowledge, has stated that they don't share it because it is proprietary and to their advantage to keep it their secret.
I, on the other hand, share everything I discover. I have even posted online just about every bit of information in the book I wrote and by doing so I knowingly, and willingly, forfeited any and all royalties due me.
What is derived from the other formula, Asc. + Uranus - Mercury, that Part I have been labeling the "Part of Omens & Signs is found to be at 04* Aquarius 32' 16", that is the 5th degree of Aquarius and the Sabian Symbol for which is [ibid.]
"AQUARIUS 5°: A COUNCIL OF ANCESTORS IS SEEN IMPLEMENTING THE EFFORTS OF A YOUNG LEADER.
KEYNOTE: The Root foundation of past performances which power and sustain whatever decision is made in a crisis by an individual.
The whole past of mankind stands behind any individual effort, especially in times of critical decisions. The endeavor of the priests who built the California missions had behind it the whole past of Catholic proselytizing, i.e. the attempt to bring the 'Good News' to all people of the Earth. Every individual is far more dependent upon the strength of their ancestors' achievements — or oppressed by their failures and lack of vision — than they usually believe. This can mean a hidden foundation of individual strength, or the inertia of a tradition unable to transcend its limited origins.
This is the last symbol in the sixty-first five-fold sequence. It suggests that in many situations RELIANCE UPON PRECEDENTS will enable the aspirant to greatness to tap the power of their deepest roots."
I have been the recipient of a number of personally given signs over the years, mostly in the last 22 years. I mentioned a number of them here in this forum over the last eleven years I have been a member.
As I am lead to, advised to, believe that I am the soul reborn, reincarnated, that Rudolph Steiner predicted would return in time for the beginning of the 21st century and also mention by author Trevor Ravenscroft in his book "The Cup of Destiny and which I no longer have any doubt that I am. I satisfy all the criteria set by Steiner...and such was confirmed by two highly reputable, yet independent of one another, clairvoyants... then I am of the bloodline of the House of David. Aside from all of that I am the only one that did show up in the time frame predicted that accomplished what was predicted. [or I probably should say prophesied?] Allegedly this bloodline I can trace back through my mothers family all the way back to the first century A.D. to the area now known as Glastonbury, England and either Joseph/Yosef of Arimathea or James/Ya'aqov, brother of Jesus/Yeshu'a, and the First Bishop of Jerusalem. The two came to Breton in 42 A.D. [C.E.. for those that prefer] and established the very first Church of Christianity, predating that of Peter's in Rome, as to which the Roman Catholic church no longer denies and each took a local woman to be a wife. Their progeny continued on and my mothers' family Richard and Margery Hough [nee Clowes] Quakers, left Cheshire, England in 1683 and came to Pennsylvania aboard Captain Cook's ship, the H.M.S. Endeavor.. Cheshire is about 180 miles North of Glastonbury.
Thus being said, you can figure out for yourselves just who my ancestors are.
Usually I resort to using that chart I produced that I am convinced of as being the true natal chart of Jesus/Yeshu'a of Nazareth. It is the reason I titled the book I wrote about it "A Template for the Time" because it is a template from which to study and understand astrology.I like to sometimes refer to it as "the Rosetta Stone" of astrology.
But the Sabian Symbols that correspond to these same two Parts that have been derived from that natal chart are too difficult for me as yet to understand as how they relate to their different precepts as concerning the Man from Nazareth. I may yet figure it out or surely someone, someday, will do so.
I do, however, see some interesting takes on the two same Parts derived from the natal chart of the USA [the "Zero Hour" chart, 12:00:01 a.m. July 4, 1776 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania] as the one derived from the formula Asc. + Mercury - Uranus is also the same degree, the 8th of Gemini, as is the Part of Destiny [M.C. + Sun - Moon] [ibid.]
"GEMINI 8°: AROUSED STRIKERS SURROUND A FACTORY.
KEYNOTE: The disruptive power of the ambitious mind upon the organic wholeness of human relationship.
We are dealing in this sequence of symbols with man's discovery of the new powers residing in his special contribution to the total organism of this planet Earth — his consciousness and aggressive mind. The first stage (Phase 66) dealt with oil, the typical form of energy which the modern mind has made available. (These symbols were revealed before atomic energy was even thought of as a practical possibility.) Now we see in this new symbol a pictorial indication of what the use of this intellect-generated energy inevitably leads to: industrial unrest and violence. As man manages to rape the earth in order to demonstrate his power and intensify his pleasures and his sense of proud mastery, conflicts and disruptive processes are inevitably initiated.
The arousal is presented to us here in its collective social form because we have reached the emotional-cultural level. The type of power generated by the analytical intellectual faculties is essentially disruptive; it is based on the destruction of matter, and invites egocentric hoarding and spoliation — and, in general, privileges of one kind or another. This leads to a REVOLT AGAINST PRIVILEGES."
The Astrological Part derived from the formula Asc. + Uranus - Mercury for that same natal chart for the U.S.A. is the same degree, the 6th of Pisces, as the 12th House Cusp of the same natal chart. The 12th House cusp reveals through the Sabian Symbolism found for it's Sign and degree what that entity believes is the answer to the greatest problem confronting the world.
I find this most intriguing as to what president Trump recently requested and was done at his behest. [ibid.]
"PISCES 6°: A PARADE OF ARMY OFFICERS IN FULL DRESS.
KEYNOTE: The dedication of human beings to the service of their community, and the assurance that it will be emotionally sustained by the people at large.
Here we see at work the emotion-rousing appeal of social activities which demand the surrendering by the individual of his personal way of life, his opinions and his comfort. The socializing process is pictured in all its intensity but what is implied even more is the support that the socialized person can expect from the collectivity if he is ready to act and to sacrifice himself for the nation or the group.
This is the first symbol of the sixty-eighth series. It allegorizes the power generated by a totally accepted and enforced collective discipline, and the exaltation and mass response which he who has achieved this self-surrender to a social tradition can expect in return.
The Keyword is GROUP-RESPONSIBILITY."
I do have to wonder if the president, or one of his key advisers, has caught on to what I've been demonstrating here on the internet as for the reason putting on that Mayday parade president Trump wanted surely had a very positive impact on American society as a whole as whether or not anyone consciously realized it, they would have had to subconsciously recognize it as being that "answer" symbolically and found themselves inexplicably pleased at once with the president and the state of the nation.
It's almost noon here and I've not slept yet since yesterday afternoon when I had a long nap... but a "nap'" is all it was. So, I must close now but I will return to further analyze what these Parts from the USA natal chart might indicate through their Sabian Symbols regarding the two different Astrological Parts as they concern the USA... or I should say, I'll give it my best shot.
If not later today then hopefully before the week is over. I don't spend as much time on writing for the internet as I used to do ... I've learned my limitations so as to keep myself from ''burning out". It's not how fast you run the race, that is all important, it's whether you finish it or not.
Anyone else have any examples for these two different formulae derived from their own natal chart or that of someone of historical or biographical notoriety that they can demonstrate in support of my theory, or otherwise, please feel free and most welcome by me to post here and do so.
That is a title given to that formula that I've never heard of before, nor seen in any writings, anywhere... and very frankly speaking, I think that whoever gave it that title at the Libra Centre should walk away from the keyboard and immediately retire from any further writing unless, and until, they come to their senses. Well, you will find that... or rather I should say that, you should find... if you do any searching, that most sources give it the title of either "Disputes" or "Lawsuits", although there are one or two, I forget how many, that also, or exclusively, identify it as the "Part of Luck-Release", which is a title I don't really know as to what it implies exactly, to this day I have assumed that those sources, [or it may have been a singular source I got that from] are implying that it is about "losing ones' luck", of which if they are, then all I can say is "good luck with that"...
