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A double Cancer...

That's like a really watered down combo, but the Aries Moon gives you some fire.

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Well, I'm a cancer sun and cancer ascendant. My moon is Aries.

Look I know I'm not much of an astrologer.

I mean what do you expect from one who was raised in Catholicism and ended up in a Seminary, then the ****ing army, lol.

Look, I never expected to be on this forum, but I'm still happy I'm here. I've already learned a lot. I hope to learn more.

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Welp, off to work again.
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Welp, off to work again.
What time is it where you are ?
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What time is it where you are ?
I feel like Iíve already said this...

As of this post, 3:53pm.
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I feel like Iíve already said this...

As of this post, 3:53pm.
I feel like you already haven't

But thanks now i can keep track on you much better

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So are you still religious, or has this gone out of the window ?

How was the army for you ?

You'll learn a lot from being on here, so its good you've stumbled upon it....everything happens for a reason.
I am still religious; I attend traditional Latin Masses and I observe the teachings of the Catholic Church faithfully. I am here purely for an educational endeavor. That said, I hope to be here longer, as a friend. I love my Catholic faith, and I believe that these two can be connected.

Remember Pierre Teilhard de Chardin. He was a priest who no one expected to try to tie a connection to Darwinism to Christianity. Or Joseph Lemaitre, who theorized the Big Bang, both were Catholic priests. In spite of all these obstacles, their faith remained. So too shall mine.

Regarding the Army. I have had so many benefits (college being paid for, discipline in my work, respecting authority), but I can't wait for the lessons that will be coming. I want to make a career out of it. Many years to go till a pension, after all!

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If only this was universally known. My cheers is to you.

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Now, I typed that from memory. I think all the words are correct but I have been called the "king of commas", so forgive the pronunciation. Still, my Latin is rusty but I think fine enough to, well, suscipe. I had the privilege of being taught the Tridentine Mass. I only wish Pope Francis would take more kindly to it.
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I am still religious; I attend traditional Latin Masses and I observe the teachings of the Catholic Church faithfully. I am here purely for an educational endeavor. That said, I hope to be here longer, as a friend. I love my Catholic faith, and I believe that these two can be connected.

Remember Pierre Teilhard de Chardin. He was a priest who no one expected to try to tie a connection to Darwinism to Christianity. Or Joseph Lemaitre, who theorized the Big Bang, both were Catholic priests. In spite of all these obstacles, their faith remained. So too shall mine.

Regarding the Army. I have had so many benefits (college being paid for, discipline in my work, respecting authority), but I can't wait for the lessons that will be coming. I want to make a career out of it. Many years to go till a pension, after all!



If only this was universally known. My cheers is to you.

Confiteor Deo omnipotenti, beatae Mariae semper Virgini, beatae Michaelae Archangelo, beato Ioanni baptistae, sanctis apostolis Petro et Paulo, et omnibus sanctis, quia peccavi nimis cogitatione, verbo et opere, mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa. Ideo precor beatam Mariam semper Virginem, beatum Michaelem Archangelum, beatum Ioannem Baptistam, sanctos Apostolos Petrum et Paulum, et omnes Sanctos, pro orare me ad omnium Deum nostrum, amen.

Now, I typed that from memory. I think all the words are correct but I have been called the "king of commas", so forgive the pronunciation. Still, my Latin is rusty but I think fine enough to, well, suscipe. I had the privilege of being taught the Tridentine Mass. I only wish Pope Francis would take more kindly to it.
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In primary school i was in a religious lesson, and the teacher was telling us about god/jesus etc....me with my gemini moon likes to ask questions. Teacher said "any questions ?" no one put their hand up but me...i asked "well if god made jesus, who made god ?" Teacher walked around to the back of me and slapped me on the back of my head and told me not to be so cheeky

Ive never got no answers to this, or even as to why "a particular" religion is the correct one.

Im classed as an atheist i think.
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Religion was created to keep people in check by suppressing their animalistic nature.
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Religion was created to keep people in check by suppressing their animalistic nature.
It may keep them in check, but it still encourages them to mate.
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Religion was created to keep people in check by suppressing their animalistic nature.
Indeed, and I appreciate that on religion's part.

Personally I think I'm a bit superior to my pet ridgeback or the raccoons that go through our trash.
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Is saturn always representative of the father in natal charts, or is it the sun too ?

And can saturn rx indicate an absent father, or one who wasn't really a great father figure ?

And can.....only joking lol.
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If religion didnít exist back then, the world wouldíve been a lot worse.
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Is saturn always representative of the father in natal charts, or is it the sun too ?

And can saturn rx indicate an absent father, or one who wasn't really a great father figure ?

And can.....only joking lol.
I think the Sun, or the MC/IC, represents the father.

Saturn can manifest through the father though when it needs to create restrictions on the native. A harsh or difficult father is seen when the Sun is aspected to Saturn.
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I think the Sun, or the MC/IC, represents the father.

Saturn can manifest through the father though when it needs to create restrictions on the native. A harsh or difficult father is seen when the Sun is aspected to Saturn.
Oh no really...ive been looking at saturn for the father

So a chart im looking at, he has sun trine saturn rx, so as its a trine is this still a difficult father, especially with saturn being rx ?

Well it must be as the persons father was not in his life much, he was very volatile and unavailable through his own addictions.

Also regarding MC, he has uranus on MC, so i suppose this is signifying his father too then ?
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It may keep them in check, but it still encourages them to mate.
I thought just the other day that they saw men and women = children so thatís why they said it was the rule.

Like how pigs were making Muslims ill back in the olden times and thatís why Muslims today donít eat pork.

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Indeed, and I appreciate that on religion's part.

Personally I think I'm a bit superior to my pet ridgeback or the raccoons that go through our trash.
In what ways are you superior?

Asking genuinely cos I like this subject.

I would like to add that I read the link you posted with your chart and I can see you are a fan of debating and Iím sorry for picking that up as winding me up.
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Oh no really...ive been looking at saturn for the father

So a chart im looking at, he has sun trine saturn rx, so as its a trine is this still a difficult father, especially with saturn being rx ?

Well it must be as the persons father was not in his life much, he was very volatile and unavailable through his own addictions.

Also regarding MC, he has uranus on MC, so i suppose this is signifying his father too then ?
Yes... but it depends. Sometimes the MC signifies the mother and father is signified by the IC.

A Saturn trine sun may indicate that the native has a difficult father, but they’ve been able to adapt, thrive, and use a tough father to their advantage. Like, they’ve easily learned independence, hard work, and responsibility.
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In what ways are you superior?

Asking genuinely cos I like this subject.

I would like to add that I read the link you posted with your chart and I can see you are a fan of debating and Iím sorry for picking that up as winding me up.
In regards to the "animal kingdom", man is naturally superior all creatures in general. Naturally, if I wanted to fist fight with a gorilla, I'd be properly trounced. If I wanted to have a swim-off with a dolphin, I'd be disappointed, and so on.

However man has a distinct and unique self-awareness and ability to discern himself that animals are unable to. Take my ridgeback for example. She can run like the billio, she can definitely kill me if she felt like it, however she cannot understand herself and cannot attain the abilities of man; no animal really can.

Man is obliged to care for animals because man understands his place in the world and the kingdom. Animals have no feeling of obligation to do that, they do it out of a self-serving need or training.

Theologically, man is superior to animals in totality. The old adage that "all dogs go to Heaven" doesn't hold up to the Magisterium of the Church, and animals lack the "beatific vision" of Christ and their souls are temporary and meant to serve us as assets to be utilized.

Regarding my chart; yes I enjoy debate and I tend to be quite capable of it. This said, I have been known to instigate critical thinking to further a point and that might be considered "winding up", but I'm not in the business of making people angry or trolling.

If anyone else wanted to see my chart, I'll attach it.

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Yes... but it depends. Sometimes the MC signifies the mother and father is signified by the IC.

A Saturn trine sun may indicate that the native has a difficult father, but they’ve been able to adapt, thrive, and use a tough father to their advantage. Like, they’ve easily learned independence, hard work, and responsibility.
Yes this is correct what you say, as he has now opened up his own charity to help children of addiction, and has launched his own gym and doesn't drink as much like he used to, he's in his early 30's now.

So it seems like the trine sun/saturn has benefited him, with regards to how his father has been.

This is calum best's chart btw im looking at.
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In regards to the "animal kingdom", man is naturally superior all creatures in general. Naturally, if I wanted to fist fight with a gorilla, I'd be properly trounced. If I wanted to have a swim-off with a dolphin, I'd be disappointed, and so on.

However man has a distinct and unique self-awareness and ability to discern himself that animals are unable to. Take my ridgeback for example. She can run like the billio, she can definitely kill me if she felt like it, however she cannot understand herself and cannot attain the abilities of man; no animal really can.

Man is obliged to care for animals because man understands his place in the world and the kingdom. Animals have no feeling of obligation to do that, they do it out of a self-serving need or training.

Theologically, man is superior to animals in totality. The old adage that "all dogs go to Heaven" doesn't hold up to the Magisterium of the Church, and animals lack the "beatific vision" of Christ and their souls are temporary and meant to serve us as assets to be utilized.

Regarding my chart; yes I enjoy debate and I tend to be quite capable of it. This said, I have been known to instigate critical thinking to further a point and that might be considered "winding up", but I'm not in the business of making people angry or trolling.

If anyone else wanted to see my chart, I'll attach it.

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