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Re: Does having Venus in Pisces make a person weak?

Venus in 8th house (or in Scorpio, or Venus-Pluto) doesn't give 2nd chances.

If your Pisces Venus was in a different house, then perhaps it would.

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Re: Does having Venus in Pisces make a person weak?

I got a Pisces mars and Venus conjunct... I don't think it's weak... but it is hard not to feel emotionally connected to bad people that we think need our help.
Makes us a bit selfless which I think is a good trait to have.

I suppose it does depend on the other aspects on it too
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Unread 12-04-2016, 01:00 PM
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Feeling emotionally connected to bad people that we think need our help. This is another problem with having Venus in Pisces.
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I got a Pisces mars and Venus conjunct... I don't think it's weak... but it is hard not to feel emotionally connected to bad people that we think need our help.
Makes us a bit selfless which I think is a good trait to have.

I suppose it does depend on the other aspects on it too
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Re: Does having Venus in Pisces make a person weak?

I don't feel emotionally connected to bad people.

Again, this goes back to vetting. All ViPs should learn to do this, if their natal chart doesn't incline to this.
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Unread 12-04-2016, 01:20 PM
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So I guess that explains why when I'm finally done with a person I'm really done.
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Venus in 8th house (or in Scorpio, or Venus-Pluto) doesn't give 2nd chances.

If your Pisces Venus was in a different house, then perhaps it would.
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Well the chart we have for Jesus has venus in pisces and He wasnt weak

Heres the sabian symbol for the degree it was in, taken from Dane Rudhyar's "An Astrological Mandala":

PISCES 7): ILLUMINED BY A SHAFT OF LIGHT, A LARGE CROSS LIES ON ROCKS SURROUNDED BY SEA MIST.

KEYNOTE: The spiritual blessing which strengthens individuals who, happen what may, stand uncompromisingly for their own truth.


Men who do not depend upon collective values, traditions or support but seek at any cost to be true to their individual self and destiny almost inevitably face some kind of crucifixion. They are sustained only by the power within them, to which a light above answers. The symbol tells us: "Be true to thine own self, and in the midst of the outer confusion displayed by those surrounding you, you will realize what you really are as an Individual a son of God."

This second stage symbol presents us with a realization in polar opposition to that evoked by the preceding scene. It implies the supreme worth of a life guided by an inner voice and manifesting a high degree of SELF-ASSERTION."
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Unread 12-04-2016, 02:39 PM
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Re: Does having Venus in Pisces make a person weak?

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I know Venus is exhalted in Pisces but that still doesn't change the fact that it can be a weakness. Do you remember the musician Kurt Cobain? He had Venus in Pisces and you see what happened with him.
I don't get it. Are you asking us if Venus in Pisces makes a person weak? Or are you informing us that Venus in Pisces makes a person weak?

By the third page of this, I seriously don't get the true point of this thread, if there is one.
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Unread 12-04-2016, 03:09 PM
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Re: Does having Venus in Pisces make a person weak?

Thanks for the information.
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Well the chart we have for Jesus has venus in pisces and He wasnt weak

Heres the sabian symbol for the degree it was in, taken from Dane Rudhyar's "An Astrological Mandala":

PISCES 7): ILLUMINED BY A SHAFT OF LIGHT, A LARGE CROSS LIES ON ROCKS SURROUNDED BY SEA MIST.

KEYNOTE: The spiritual blessing which strengthens individuals who, happen what may, stand uncompromisingly for their own truth.


Men who do not depend upon collective values, traditions or support but seek at any cost to be true to their individual self and destiny almost inevitably face some kind of crucifixion. They are sustained only by the power within them, to which a light above answers. The symbol tells us: "Be true to thine own self, and in the midst of the outer confusion displayed by those surrounding you, you will realize what you really are as an Individual a son of God."

This second stage symbol presents us with a realization in polar opposition to that evoked by the preceding scene. It implies the supreme worth of a life guided by an inner voice and manifesting a high degree of SELF-ASSERTION."
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Unread 12-04-2016, 03:10 PM
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Re: Does having Venus in Pisces make a person weak?

I was giving an example as to why I think having this placement makes a person weak. I made this thread because I wanted to know other peoples opinions about this placement.
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I don't get it. Are you asking us if Venus in Pisces makes a person weak? Or are you informing us that Venus in Pisces makes a person weak?

By the third page of this, I seriously don't get the true point of this thread, if there is one.
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Unread 12-04-2016, 06:17 PM
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Re: Does having Venus in Pisces make a person weak?

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I was giving an example as to why I think having this placement makes a person weak.
That's called cherry picking.

We discuss Venus in Pisces or any placement in isolation for informative purposes but the reality is the whole chart matters above all. However, say we were only talking Venus signs. There are many others who don't fit your notion. Michelle Obama, George Washington, Martin Luther King Jr, Ronald Reagan all had or have Venus in Pisces. Are they weak?

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I made this thread because I wanted to know other peoples opinions about this placement.
I thought you wanted that too (as well as help with expressing ViP in a manner more benefiting to you). Then you disagreed with, gave a half-hearted acknowledgement or none at all to posts which said Venus in Pisces wasn't weak. So it seems you either want people to confirm your ideas and/or you want to whinge about Venus in Pisces. The Piscean-influenced can love to complain so that's totally fine, just make your aims known.
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Re: Does having Venus in Pisces make a person weak?

Of course I would like help with expressing Venus in Pisces in a more benefiting manner. But the question I asked was if Venus in Pisces makes a person weak. Meaning I wanted to know whether or not this was true. Or if It was just me feeling this way.
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That's called cherry picking.

We discuss Venus in Pisces or any placement in isolation for informative purposes but the reality is the whole chart matters above all. However, say we were only talking Venus signs. There are many others who don't fit your notion. Michelle Obama, George Washington, Martin Luther King Jr, Ronald Reagan all had or have Venus in Pisces. Are they weak?



I thought you wanted that too (as well as help with expressing ViP in a manner more benefiting to you). Then you disagreed with, gave a half-hearted acknowledgement or none at all to posts which said Venus in Pisces wasn't weak. So it seems you either want people to confirm your ideas and/or you want to whinge about Venus in Pisces. The Piscean-influenced can love to complain so that's totally fine, just make your aims known.
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Unread 12-04-2016, 06:57 PM
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That's called cherry picking.

We discuss Venus in Pisces or any placement in isolation for informative purposes but the reality is the whole chart matters above all. However, say we were only talking Venus signs. There are many others who don't fit your notion. Michelle Obama, George Washington, Martin Luther King Jr, Ronald Reagan all had or have Venus in Pisces. Are they weak?



I thought you wanted that too (as well as help with expressing ViP in a manner more benefiting to you). Then you disagreed with, gave a half-hearted acknowledgement or none at all to posts which said Venus in Pisces wasn't weak. So it seems you either want people to confirm your ideas and/or you want to whinge about Venus in Pisces. The Piscean-influenced can love to complain so that's totally fine, just make your aims known.
I don't "complain", I grumble. But, not in an angry way, and only about my pet peeves.

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Re: Does having Venus in Pisces make a person weak?

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Of course I would like help with expressing Venus in Pisces in a more benefiting manner. But the question I asked was if Venus in Pisces makes a person weak. Meaning I wanted to know whether or not this was true. Or if It was just me feeling this way.
Have you found the answer?
Is Venus in Pisces weak?
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Re: Does having Venus in Pisces make a person weak?

Only if you aren't careful with who you get involved with.
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Is Venus in Pisces weak?
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Re: Does having Venus in Pisces make a person weak?

Thanks that helps.
I am a Venus in Taurus so maybe I will take that advice also.
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Re: Does having Venus in Pisces make a person weak?

Venus in Taurus isn't weak I wish I had this placement.
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Thanks that helps.
I am a Venus in Taurus so maybe I will take that advice also.
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Re: Does having Venus in Pisces make a person weak?

Why do you want it?
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Have you ever read the definition of Venus in Taurus?
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Re: Does having Venus in Pisces make a person weak?

This is descriptions for a dignified Venus (Pisces and Taurus)
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Re: Does having Venus in Pisces make a person weak?

& I have yeah
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Re: Does having Venus in Pisces make a person weak?

Because people with Venus in Taurus are sensual and they like physical relationships unlike Venus in Pisces it's all about unconditional love for us.

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Re: Does having Venus in Pisces make a person weak?

What is so bad about that?
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Re: Does having Venus in Pisces make a person weak?

@sibylline here is another thing you know that most people are not worthy of unconditional love. So this is why I also have a problem with this placement. Sometimes I feel like I'll never find anyone who is actually worth me expressing unconditional love. Someone else who has this placement told me that women who have VIP look for a prince. Well real life isn't a fairytale so what can a person do?
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Re: Does having Venus in Pisces make a person weak?

I just said why in the comment above because most people are not worthy of unconditional love.
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Thanks for the information.
Of course.

As far as Kurt Cobain goes, he had a uranus - venus/chiron opposition and also a pluto - mercury opposition both along the ac- dc axis. This is a very predominant factor in his chart.

Heres the symbol for his venus:

"PISCES 27): THE HARVEST MOON ILLUMINES A CLEAR AUTUMNAL SKY.

KEYNOTE: The light of fulfillment that blesses work well done.


For astronomical reasons the full moon of early autumn, the harvest moon, appears slightly larger than all other full moons. In our temperate Northern Hemisphere, these are the days when the green of summer fields and woods has turned gold and warm brown days for the reaping of the good harvest, if all has gone well. This symbol brings us the message that the time has come to reap what we have not only sown, but also cultivated or failed to cultivate.

This second stage symbol once more stands in opposition to the one for the preceding stage new moon having now become full moon, indeed the fullest of all full moons. The Keyword is CONSUMMATION. But in this consummation this "karmic" moment the seed of the new cyclic manifestation is already latent."


So this is fitting as his music career was very fruitful. But its about reaping what weve sown and that includes our failures.

I personally think he was born about 10 minutes before his recorded time. This puts his part of fortune at 3 aqua, which is so appropriate for him.

AQUARIUS 3): A DESERTER FROM THE NAVY.

KEYNOTE: The individual's self-realization through a crucial repudiation of a collective status which has become unbearable.


This symbol recalls the one for Scorpio 21, but the fact that actual "desertion" is emphasized and reference is made to "the Navy" suggests that the crisis symbolized here is one implying an irrevocable change of status. Man refuses to accept the type of cultural patterns derived from his society's specific approach to local circumstances and to the universe as a whole, and in another sense, from its particular relationship to the all-human collective Unconscious. (The Navy refers to the ocean, symbol of primordial and unconscious evolutionary forces.) He not only refuses to obey orders, he deliberately turns his back on his collective social status; he becomes an outcast, and through this decision he may definitely individualize his consciousness.

This is the third stage of the sixty-first five-fold sequence. Something with collective social value is being potentially destroyed, but nature is not the destroyer (as in the preceding symbol). Man, the individual, steps out of his bondage to collective patterns and ideals. He may thus "find himself' by means of a sharp renunciation of his social birthright, i.e. by a crucial process of DESOCIALIZATION."


I mean, that's just it to a tee.
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