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Unread 03-27-2020, 03:54 AM
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Cold and calculated in a natal chart?

I just watched this movie called Law Abiding Citizen starring Gerard Butler and Jamie Foxx. In the movie, Clyde Shelton (Gerard Butler's character) witnesses his family slain by a bunch of crooks who get off on an easy sentence. Many years from the date when they are out of jail, he kills both of them in a very cold way, torturing them and outsmarting them every step of the way before doing so.

What placements in a natal chart would make for this kind of a guy?

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Re: Cold and calculated in a natal chart.

By sheer coincidence last night there was a film on TV here (which I rarely watch) with Antonio Banderas who plays the part of a lawyer who's wife and young daughter are murdered. He was supposed to meet them at the end of the concert, he didn't go, leaving them vulnerable, and has heavy guilt feelings, goes to a local boxing centre where the contestants basically slaughter themselves in free-style fighting, and he continues to take it on to punish himself. Through a series of strange passages he comes on a book of philosophy that he uses to rebuild himself. Beginning with the quote "only the person who commits the crime should be punished".
He finds the guilty one, a cop who was the one who saved him from the boxing massacre, who killed the mother and daughter as revenge because Banderas had successfully defended the murderer of the cop's own daughter.
And I had thought how many pisces symbols, self sacrificing, philosophy, plus many of the scenes took part in wet or rainy weather, not to mention the spilling of blood, the inner turmoil and soul searching.
Banderas himself has a face that is halfway between moony cancer and neptunian pisces, although I have no idea about him.

Sorry if this doesn't relate directly to your film, but we both had a similar idea about what we watched, and I thought it might be interesting to compare.

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Re: Cold and calculated in a natal chart.

Found the title... Acts of Vengeance.
Not sure if that title follows through with the Pisces/Cancer themes.
Is Pisces the sign of vengeance?
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Re: Cold and calculated in a natal chart?

Cancer, Aquarius and Pisces are signs of revenge because you felt you were wronged. They strongly believe in fair justice and equal treatment. The cancer/Aquarius type in sun or moon combos is compassionate, empathic, doesn't like politics, and showed a strong love of children, concern for civil or human rights, and champion for the underrepresented. However, to wanting to strike back at people is dangerous and cancer/Aquarius types need to control themselves when they express anger and disgust at wrong doings. A cancer/Aquarius personality princess Diana Spencer described the royal family after a bad marriage to prince Charles and her humanitarian efforts or causes, esp. involving children, she knew where her heart is.
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Unread 03-28-2020, 05:45 PM
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Re: Cold and calculated in a natal chart?

Capricorn - cold and calculating when done wrong by with a bit of Scorpio.

Depends on the aspects too
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Capricorn - cold and calculating when done wrong by with a bit of Scorpio.

Depends on the aspects too
The saturnian Capricorn and plutonian Scorpio are indeed the cold spots of the astrological zodiac. Scorpio and Aries have temper issues, but not all people under these signs are. There are more convicted criminals born in cancer and Taurus than any other sun signs.
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The saturnian Capricorn and plutonian Scorpio are indeed the cold spots of the astrological zodiac. Scorpio and Aries have temper issues, but not all people under these signs are. There are more convicted criminals born in cancer and Taurus than any other sun signs.
Hitler was a Taurus ♉️
I still think aspects play a big part in all this
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