Jupiter/Uranus Midpoint

freedomlover

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I stumbled upon an article on the net that referred to the Jupiter/Uranus midpoint as a point of "relief", and generally a very fortunate spot in the chart.

I have always counted my Jupiter Rx at 28' Gemini in the 6th, cusp of 7th, as being unaspected, because the closest aspect was a square with Pluto in Virgo in the 8th, with just under a 10 degree orb.

When I went looking for my Jupiter/Uranus midpoint, I noticed two very interesting things:

First of all, my Jupiter and Uranus are in an exact septile aspect of 51 degrees! So my Jupiter DOES have some company! :smile:

Secondly, my Venus in Capricorn in the 1st opposes my Jupiter/Uranus Midpoint of about 23' Cancer in the 7th. How would one interpret this aspect?

In addition to requesting this particular information, I'm also opening the thread to include others' descriptions and comments on their own Jupiter/Uranus midpoints.
 
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flea

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mmmmmm Freedom, I kind aknow your chart really well due to my own..lol.... I think the midpoint is actually in Leo about 7 deg and opp your aquarian Moon.

Maybe this points to balancing out the emotions....I say this is relation to the whole chart as there is a lot about emotinal healing for the people born around that time with the pluto uranus chiron time bomb. I think there is a big resonance with healing the feminine intuition darkness going within...the difficult emotions that are difficult because they change us to some thing new or better, but it means letting go.

The midpoint sextiles my ascendant and trines the descendant so I think it would only work for me in relationship and synastric aspects.

A point of releif from what I wonder...teh tensions in the rest of the chart I wonder.

Cool Thx FL

FleaXX
 
freedomlover

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flea said:
mmmmmm Freedom, I kind aknow your chart really well due to my own..lol.... I think the midpoint is actually in Leo about 7 deg and opp your aquarian Moon.

Maybe this points to balancing out the emotions....I say this is relation to the whole chart as there is a lot about emotinal healing for the people born around that time with the pluto uranus chiron time bomb. I think there is a big resonance with healing the feminine intuition darkness going within...the difficult emotions that are difficult because they change us to some thing new or better, but it means letting go.

The midpoint sextiles my ascendant and trines the descendant so I think it would only work for me in relationship and synastric aspects.

A point of releif from what I wonder...teh tensions in the rest of the chart I wonder.

Cool Thx FL

FleaXX
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Yes, Flea.. I was thinking when I wrote this, that I wonder if the planets remained in enough of the same positions to be septile in yours as well. :lol:

With all due respect, though... I've counted it again.... Half of 51 should be roughly 26 degrees, right? I counted up from my Jupiter and get 39 degrees at 7' Leo. Of course, my math skills are not what they used to be ( I had to use my fingers and toes, and borrow someone else's fingers and toes - LOL!)

As to the "point of relief", yes it may have to do with releasing tensions not able to be released anywhere else. My Jupiter being unaspected, I haven't really found a point of relief for this tremendous strain elsewhere, so I have my hopes up.... :unsure:.
 
flea

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mmm I get 81 degrees between jupiter and uranus....??

I have the same lack of aspects to jupiter... except it being in quintile triangle with neptune and venus, which i haven't figured out yet. Jup being closer to opposition in my chart...an astrologer mentioned that i was in opposition to my ruling sign...so not integrating it into my personality....I am working on that!!

FleaXX
 
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freedomlover

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flea said:
mmm I get 81 degrees between jupiter and uranus....??

I have the same lack of aspects to jupiter... except it being in quintile triangle with neptune and venus, which i haven't figured out yet. Jup being closer to opposition in my chart...an astrologer mentioned that i was in opposition to my ruling sign...so not integrating it into my personality....I am working on that!!

FleaXX
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HAHA!!! YOU ARE RIGHT!!! 81 degrees - well, so much for my septile! Jupiter goes back to being lonely. Well, my Moon at 7' Aquarius opposing the midpoint at 7' Leo IS a little easier to understand than the original Venus in Cap opposing it.

If it opposes my Moon, which is on the cusp of my 2nd house, then the midpoint is on the cusp of my 8th house - creativity of some sort? It may have something to do with communication maybe... The only thing that pops to mind about these degrees is that I was able to get a cell phone rather miraculously when there was a Full Moon at 7' Leo/Aquarius a few years ago.

Mars will be making a pass over this degree in a week or two.. but then again, Mars has already made two passes over this degree in the last few months - don't recall anything important, but maybe I missed something.
I may go back and have another look.

Thanks, Flea!:smile:
 
flea

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mmmm yep mars has been repassing opp with my venus recently,....well finishing in a few days. And I have had some big things come up for healing....balance of male female stuff. Maybe that will help me with future relationships....and I do feel I have released some negative expectations around that!!

Sometimes i see the aspects (well more usually at the mo) having an internal impact on my state of ebing rather than external events....

FleaXX

ps.... i did find the mpst wonderful healign crystal couple of days ago...with an uncommon balance of energies...spiritual but grounding, male and female...very buzzy.....that fits resolution of mars venus opp???
 
freedomlover

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flea said:
mmmm yep mars has been repassing opp with my venus recently,....well finishing in a few days. And I have had some big things come up for healing....balance of male female stuff. Maybe that will help me with future relationships....and I do feel I have released some negative expectations around that!!

Sometimes i see the aspects (well more usually at the mo) having an internal impact on my state of ebing rather than external events....

FleaXX

ps.... i did find the mpst wonderful healign crystal couple of days ago...with an uncommon balance of energies...spiritual but grounding, male and female...very buzzy.....that fits resolution of mars venus opp???
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I've been doing some balancing of male/female stuff, as well. I've been attributing mine to the Neptune/Chiron conjunction in Aquarius trining my Jupiter Rx in Gemini on my Descendant, though. I'm hoping I've release enough negative expectations.. but have the sneaking feeling there are a few more... sigh...

And, yes, more often than not, the transits have an impact on my internal world and not my external - sometimes both though. I've had many, many times that I've experience a sudden "AHA" moment - went to check the transits - and there will be an exact aspect of some sort going on that very minute that relates to the type of "AHA" I just had!
 
flea

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lol....sometimes we know we are onto something and the shadow does not want to know and confuses things.....maybe that is what happened...you have a finely tuned nose.....so it obviously means something important the leo opp aq moon.

FleaXX
 
kbell

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Freedom, I think mine ends up about 3 something Capricorn. I could be wrong. I'm not great at math. Uranus 1 43 scorpio and jupiter at 12 34 Pisces.

That's conjunct your ac.
 
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freedomlover

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kbell said:
Freedom, I think mine ends up about 3 something Capricorn. I could be wrong. I'm not great at math. Uranus 1 43 scorpio and jupiter at 12 34 Pisces.

That's conjunct your ac.
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I read the first paragraph of this and went: "SH**!!!!! That's conjunct my Ascendant!!!!

THEN I read that you already figured that out - LOL!

This is getting weird!

Your Jupiter is conjunct my Saturn (10'40" Pis)- ruler of my Ascendant. You have Ceres partile conjunct Jupiter, and I have Eros partile conjunct Saturn - so these are in the mix, too. Also, my Arabic Part of Spirit is at 1'48" Scorpio.
 
kbell

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I have to go to bed and work in morning but I'll try to look at more. I swear you and I are soulmates or something lol.
 
dhundhun

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Hi freedomlover,

In your case mid-point of Jupiter and Uranus is in Novile aspect with Jupiter and Uranus. The novile aspect is very minor easy aspect - so it might be giving relief.

That is not true if they are in square aspect, because midpoint will become semi-square.

Midpoints are usually effective, if they become part of some aspect otherwise rarely effective to be noticed.

In your case, you is is novile and chances are there that you may notice being easy point.

I hope I did not confuse on this.
 
freedomlover

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dhundhun said:
Hi freedomlover,

In your case mid-point of Jupiter and Uranus is in Novile aspect with Jupiter and Uranus. The novile aspect is very minor easy aspect - so it might be giving relief.

That is not true if they are in square aspect, because midpoint will become semi-square.

Midpoints are usually effective, if they become part of some aspect otherwise rarely effective to be noticed.

In your case, you is is novile and chances are there that you may notice being easy point.

I hope I did not confuse on this.
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Thank you dhundhun! Yes, you explained it very well!

I hadn't noticed that the midpoint was within orb of a novile (40') at 39' - but I allow 1' orb for noviles, so, that fits! Here is some info I found on Noviles - from a free online articles directory:

A Novile (9) occurs when two planets are forty degrees apart. It would require a tight orb, nut not necessarily an exact one: maybe two or three degrees. The novile series of aspects are related to the trines and sextiles. They're all in the same family as it were. The word novena is rooted in novile. Noviles are related to the nine muses and to the ennead. The novile conveys a somewhat charismatic, transcendental, mystical force, latent karmic details and spiritual growth. It is said to indicate development, or the ability to digest information necessary for evolutionary growth. Noviles can indicate ceremony and relate to marriage. This aspect can also symbolise a type of ‘bondage’ that people may find themselves under with regard to the planetary energies that are involved. It is an aspect that can help you to acknowledge and release past lives that hold you in servitude. This aspect is used a lot in specialist fields such as Karmic and Spiritual astrology.
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Also, dhundhun, I see exactly what you are saying about a harsh mid-point aspect being not so "relieving". But according to the article, it had to do with Jupiter and Uranus being involved, so something good would still come of it. There was another thread floating around here in the last day or two about Jupiter/Uranus aspects being involved in deaths that relieved suffering - bringing something good out of something bad. I think Waterlilly started the thread......
 
dhundhun

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freedomlover said:
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Also, dhundhun, I see exactly what you are saying about a harsh mid-point aspect being not so "relieving". But according to the article, it had to do with Jupiter and Uranus being involved, so something good would still come of it. ...
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Being jobless is not relieving, even freedom from work is there - I am victim of it. I won't buy any arguements of article, and recommend to safely disregard the article - going by fundamentals is always better. However, it has a + point, it just gave avenue for better understanding.

Sometimes slavery is desirable.
 
freedomlover

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dhundhun said:
Being jobless is not relieving, even freedom from work is there - I am victim of it. I won't buy any arguements of article, and recommend to safely disregard the article - going by fundamentals is always better. However, it has a + point, it just gave avenue for better understanding.

Sometimes slavery is desirable.
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dhundhun,

I think you may have misunderstood. The article I posted was information I found on the novile. It is not the article I read the other day that I'm referring to about the Jupiter/Uranus midpoint. I'm also not sure I understand where you are bringing in "jobless" from. Are you referring to your Jup/Ur midpoint?

Just trying to understand,

FL
 
dhundhun

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Let me give another example (25 years ago).

One guy came to me for consultation. He told that he met several astrologers. Any recommendation (astrological suggestions) to come out of the problem is backfiring. Looking at carefully, I found that he is dependant on his wife, any astrological suggestions was strengthening him, but challanging his wife.

I worked out some diffenent alternative, suitable for 1st as well as 7th. That did not backfire.

In this context, relieving is death also. I have seen such point bringing death.

I hope, again, I am not confusing.
 
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dhundhun

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freedomlover said:
dhundhun,

I think you may have misunderstood. The article I posted was information I found on the novile. It is not the article I read the other day that I'm referring to about the Jupiter/Uranus midpoint. I'm also not sure I understand where you are bringing in "jobless" from. Are you referring to your Jup/Ur midpoint?

Just trying to understand,

FL
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Yes Jup/Ur mid point. I further explained the extent of relieving in posting above.
 
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