US - a Uranian Country

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blackbery

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I agree that the :pluto: return is the bigger issue. In H2 it will be a 'tearing down' to 're-build' the entire financial system.

Cryptocurrency, gold, silver is replacing the privately-owned Rothschild Federal Reserve. While there are Federal employees, all the profits go to the R family & has since 1913.:sick::sick::sick:

:pluto: destroys what is outworn or rotten & corrupt to make way for the new.
Like you say, the Phoenix is the mythical creature that emerges from the ashes.

President Trump began this :pluto: annihilation in 2018 & the process of transforming the H2 country's wealth is carrying on. There may be great economic crashes & hyper-inflation which we are experiencing with bidan's policies but a Golden Age will eventually spring forth regarding the nation's finances.:happy::happy::happy:



Even though the Federal Reserve is overseen by a board of governors appointed by the President of the United States, the bank's real control still resides with the Rothschild family.


The national debt today (as of June 2020) stands at more than $25 trillion.




wilsontc said:
The LARGER issue is the Pluto return that is going on right now: the fundamental transformation of the US. This is larger than simply Pluto changing signs, it symbolizes the death and resurrection of the US. It is interesting how sometimes the Pluto return is symbolized in the Phoenix, which dies in fire and is reborn; and US cities have REGULARLY been set on fire across the nation.

Looking at the US,

Tim
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blackbery

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It's no longer MAGA.

It's now SAVE AMERICA from Communist China's infiltration from within which is destroying the country via their puppets in the Dem Party.:crying::crying::crying:



david starling said:
Pluto transiting the Cornwallis Natal-chart H1 is causing an Identity Crisis in several areas.

MAGA is part of the Crisis, NOT part of the solution.
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david starling said:
Our NATIONAL IDENTITY CRISIS included Birtherism at the start: "Show us your Birth Certificate". Now it's "Show us your Vaccination I.D." There's a new type of Driver's License, called "Real I.D.", required for airline flights.

MAGA is about America's "real" greatness, and who's a "real" Patriot.
RINO is about who's a "real" Republican.

Voter identification has become a big issue.

This fits with Pluto transiting H1, in the Cornwallis chart. And, along with a NATIONAL identity crisis has come the GENDER IDENTITY CRISIS. Instead of "Are you a woman or a man?" simply being about men growing their hair long, it's become about one's "real" psychological Gender.

Pluto ingressing the Cornwallis 2nd House in Aquarius is going to be HUGE!
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Aquarius is transgendered. It is interesting to see both Mars and Pluto in Aquarius. Both rather volatile entities, posited in the second. Fire and water in an Air sign in an earth house.

Yes, the Pluto return should prove interesting. Big changes. Bitcoin? Financial collapse?

Even after it passes Pluto, there will be the Mars transit.

Interesting that the chart is very Cardinal and fixed, but the transit will be in the Mutable.
 
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blackbery said:
It's no longer MAGA.

It's now SAVE AMERICA from Communist China's infiltration from within which is destroying the country via their puppets in the Dem Party.:crying::crying::crying:
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So, the MAGA label has been discontinued?

When did that happen?

Well, the "Regressive Party" works for MAGA, Patriot Party, and Save America, and any other name that crops up for the same old thing. I'll just stick with that.
 
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wilsontc

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All,

In the middle of last year there was a sudden rebellion in the US. BLM (Black Lives Matter) started up riots, lootings, and firebombings ACROSS the US in major city after major city. While the media reported these as "peaceful protests" that was ONLY during the DAY. At night the news crews went away and the rioters came out. BILLIONS of dollars in damages was done as black small businesses were destroyed from coast to coast. In addition, many people were killed, some by accident through careless rioters, others deliberately, such as black ex-policeman David Dorn, who was killed by looters when Dorn caught them looting and trashing a friend's small business.

Such wholesale destruction astrologically would be indicated by some sort of stressful combination of Uranus, Mars, and Pluto (Mars being associated with fire astrologically). Interestingly enough, in the Cornwallis chart, at the time of the riots in late May and early June, transiting Uranus was EXACTLY square natal Mars (which is conjunct natal Pluto). Underlining the "performance" nature of the protests and that they were a clash of differing values, transiting Uranus was in the self-expression house while birth Mars and Pluto are in the values house. Transiting Uranus continues to square natal Mars and Pluto as various rebellions happen across the US (such as the daily burnings going on in Portland with Antifa).

In the Sibly chart there is no such combination of Uranus, Mars and Pluto at the time of the BLM riots or today.

Following the trail,

Tim
 

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I have to disagree with you there TimW. I remember looking at the chart in June 2020 to figure out what was going on. There was the following:

t :mars::square::uranus:/DC in the Sibley. A clear indication of conflict, rebellion, war.

t :uranus: :square: :southnode: which points to the past. The riots were connected to the past injustices done to the black people & they used the G.Floyd death to 'vent' their anger. The entire protest got taken over by violent, Marxist thugs but the original intent was to 'address racial inequalities'.

Moon Nodes are usually always involved in events like this and t:uranus::square::northnode: indicates the intense rage & death & destruction that took place over the summer of 2020.

Then there's both :jupiter:/:saturn: :conjunct: Sibley chart :pluto: H2 which rules how country's people self-identify & their self-worth. The black people claimed that the entire country was racist & that they were ALL victims.
The thugs who burned, rioted, looted & killed were cheered by the fake news & given millions by the corporations.
Even VP Harris got involved, raising millions to bail the thugs out of jail so they could go out & destroy once again.:andy::andy::andy:

The BLM movement lost support after the total destruction was revealed & it's been dropping ever since. The fake news did not succeed in convincing the majority of American people that this was a peaceful organization that really cared about black people. They are an armed tool of Communism & the Marxist Dems & that's why none of them spoke out against the carnage & the violence.:annoyed::annoyed::annoyed:

NOW, we see the :mars:anger of the people against the lamestream media & nobody listens to them anymore.

The alternative news IS now the REAL NEWS!


I'm not surprised that the 'summer of hate' shows up in your chart too.

They always seem to tell the same story but in a different way.
 

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blackbery

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Did you hear the latest 'woke' Left-wing idea?

Macy Gray wants the American flag to be changed.
Macy Gray’s call for a new American flag divides opinion
Grammy-winning singer called the flag ‘tattered, dated, divisive, and incorrect’

First of all. who cares what some washed-up singer has to say?

Secondly, we know the Marxists want to destroy the Constitution and divide the country.

Sorry Marcy, Macy or whatever your name is: The MAJORITY of Americans don't want to be part of your Communist revolution. The majority of Americans LOVE their country, honor & respect the flag & want to keep it exactly the way it is.

Take your nasty race-baiting hate & division somewhere else.

I don't understand why these people who hate America so much wnat to be here. Please move to China or Venezuela or Cuba where they have the Communist gov't that you crave so much.

Adios senorita.



Macy Gray Says “It’s Time” For A New American Flag That Represents “All Of Us” In Juneteenth Op-Ed

https://deadline.com/2021/06/macy-gray-calls-for-new-american-flag-juneteenth-op-ed-1234778330/
 
Oddity

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I'm mostly staying absent because I don't do outer planets. But are you also looking at the Jupiter-Saturn conjunction in Aquarius? That's indicating a major change and goes for a 200 year period.


Sadly, I fear it's the tide of history.





wilsontc said:
david,

The LARGER issue is the Pluto return that is going on right now: the fundamental transformation of the US. This is larger than simply Pluto changing signs, it symbolizes the death and resurrection of the US. It is interesting how sometimes the Pluto return is symbolized in the Phoenix, which dies in fire and is reborn; and US cities have REGULARLY been set on fire across the nation.

Looking at the US,

Tim
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blackbery said:
I have to disagree with you there TimW. I remember looking at the chart in June 2020 to figure out what was going on. There was the following:

t :mars::square::uranus:/DC in the Sibley. A clear indication of conflict, rebellion, war.

t :uranus: :square: :southnode: which points to the past. The riots were connected to the past injustices done to the black people & they used the G.Floyd death to 'vent' their anger. The entire protest got taken over by violent, Marxist thugs but the original intent was to 'address racial inequalities'.

Moon Nodes are usually always involved in events like this and t:uranus::square::northnode: indicates the intense rage & death & destruction that took place over the summer of 2020.

Then there's both :jupiter:/:saturn: :conjunct: Sibley chart :pluto: H2 which rules how country's people self-identify & their self-worth. The black people claimed that the entire country was racist & that they were ALL victims.
The thugs who burned, rioted, looted & killed were cheered by the fake news & given millions by the corporations.
Even VP Harris got involved, raising millions to bail the thugs out of jail so they could go out & destroy once again.:andy::andy::andy:

The BLM movement lost support after the total destruction was revealed & it's been dropping ever since. The fake news did not succeed in convincing the majority of American people that this was a peaceful organization that really cared about black people. They are an armed tool of Communism & the Marxist Dems & that's why none of them spoke out against the carnage & the violence.:annoyed::annoyed::annoyed:

NOW, we see the :mars:anger of the people against the lamestream media & nobody listens to them anymore.

The alternative news IS now the REAL NEWS!


I'm not surprised that the 'summer of hate' shows up in your chart too.

They always seem to tell the same story but in a different way.
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Chiron remains in the 4th too. Still the hidden pain, or not so hidden, is to the people. Hmmmm.....
 
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blackbery

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It's a 20 yr cycle, the :jupiter::saturn: cycle. Maybe you put in an extra 0?:unsure:

1960
1980
2000
2020
2040

It always signals a new direction that the world is heading in. I only see good things happening in the future with the Dec 2020 :saturn::jupiter::conjunct::aquarius:. More humanitarian, less control from gov't, more freedom.

It's easy to believe that our History is being swept away with the fake news but it's only a tiny Marxist minority who want to 're-make the U.S.A.'. 90% or more of Americans LOVE their country, their Constitution, their Flag.

But the tiny minority have the MSM/Big Tech on their side so they appear to be winning...but they're not.
People are fighting back against the nonsense & BLM support has dropped to below 40%: nobody even watches lamestream media anymore.:wink:;)

Antifa will be recognized as a terrorist group which is what it is.

New platforms (Rumble, Bitchute, etc) are being built for free speech. Eventually, the only people left on Twitter & FB will be the Marxist minority.:lol::lol::lol:

The 'woke cancel culture' has FAILED, Coca Cola has lost billions in revenue since their 'be less white' BS campaign was launched, they fired the black lawyer who initiated it & are scrambling to regain revenue.:devil:

Boycotting the 'woke' companies is the best way that Americans can fight back against the madness. CRT is being banned more & more until it's completely out of the school system.

Hollywood is dead too & nobody cares what any of these highly-paid morons has to say! Nobody watched the Oscars.

We are moving on better times ahead.:happy:





Oddity said:
I'm mostly staying absent because I don't do outer planets. But are you also looking at the Jupiter-Saturn conjunction in Aquarius? That's indicating a major change and goes for a 200 year period.


Sadly, I fear it's the tide of history.
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Pluto in the 2nd, gifts self reliance and self sufficiency, using their own resources to accomplish what they need.

America talks regularly of buy American.

Reliance on one’s self is key here.

The polarity of the 8th may cause isolation, limitations and denial though.

Pluto in the second also, wants to know why they should face transformation. They don’t want to change without proof that they should.

“Stubbornness, defensiveness, stability and inner strength, patience perseverance and slow to change”

Above are characteristic’s from Jeffrey Wolf Green’s Pluto Volume 1.
 
Opal

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Uranus in the seventh brings difficulties with foreign affairs and unexpected complications.

The seventh itself governs war, disputes and international affairs.
 
Oddity

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No, I meant the extra naught. There is a Jupiter-Saturn conjunction every twenty years, yes. But for 200 years it will be in the same element, save for one mutation near the end of the cycle. It was conjunct in earth signs for 200 years, except in 1980, when it switched to Libra, then went back to earth for 2000.


Now it's switched to air (the 2020 conjunction was in Aquarius), and it will continue in air signs for another 200 years. The switch usually denotes major world changes.





blackbery said:
It's a 20 yr cycle, the :jupiter::saturn: cycle. Maybe you put in an extra 0?:unsure:

1960
1980
2000
2020
2040
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Opal

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Oddity said:
No, I meant the extra naught. There is a Jupiter-Saturn conjunction every twenty years, yes. But for 200 years it will be in the same element, save for one mutation near the end of the cycle. It was conjunct in earth signs for 200 years, except in 1980, when it switched to Libra, then went back to earth for 2000.


Now it's switched to air (the 2020 conjunction was in Aquarius), and it will continue in air signs for another 200 years. The switch usually denotes major world changes.
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Cool! I did not know this. I knew of the Mercury retrograde pattern. Thanks!
 
CapAquaPis

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waybread said:
Tim, why don't you just relax around this?

And please, please, try to be more factual about American history. It just discredits your astrology if you sort of make it up (incorrectly) as you go along.

Also astrology. Mars rules fire, not Pluto, according to Rex E. Bills, The Rulership Book.

Please indicate the astrological signatures for:

Some major fires in American history:

1776; Great Fire of New York.

1814: British sacking of Washington, DC during the war of 1812.

1864: Union troops burn Atlanta and all over Georgia's largest cities.

1871: Great Chicago fire and Peshtigo, WI Fire.

1906: San Francisco Earthquake fires with looting.

1911: Triangle Shirtwaist Factory Fire in New York.

1921: Tulsa massacre in the Greenwood neighborhood.

1947: Texas City disaster at a chemical plant in Texas.

1965; Watts Riots (MD: they had the 1992 Riots as well).

(MD: 1980: Mount Saint Helens super-eruption involving lava and hot mud in nearby forests surrounding the Washington state volcano long been dormant).

2001: World Trade Center and Pentagon fires (the deadliest in American history).

(MD: 2020: The year of Riots - The George Floyd Verdict, but most BLM gatherings were peaceful, Antifa vs the Alt-Right most notably in Seattle, Portland OR and Oakland CA, and global warming/climate change, esp in CA).

This isn't counting all kinds of wildfires, steamship explosions, and deadly burnings of individual buildings.

American cities have been burning off and on for a long time. Ditto for other countries around the world. How is Pluto implicated in them?

The Pluto return shows up in the Sibly chart, incidentally.
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The astrological role Mars and Pluto play in the history of fiery events, i.e. in May 1980 when Mars conjunct Pluto in Libra after the red planet was conjunct Jupiter and Saturn in Virgo, an earth sign relating to seismic or tectonic plate activity (and also social unrest like the Miami riots the same day Mt. St. Helens erupted in one of earth's largest explosions in recorded or natural histories in a force of 500 atomic bombs combined), and a Mars-Pluto conjunction in the late decan of Libra cusp scorpio is of fires (just like the Miami riot) and volcanoes.
 
CapAquaPis

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blackbery said:
It's a 20 yr cycle, the :jupiter::saturn: cycle. Maybe you put in an extra 0?:unsure:

1960 (capricorn-Aquarius stellium in Feb 5, 1962 brought on social upheaval & radical change of the 1960s-70s plus the July 20,1969 manned lunar landing).
1980 (MD: A major conjunction involved Saturn-Pluto in Libra in 1982 points out the rise of fiscal (neo)conservatism & culture shift from hippies to yuppies).
1990 (MD: The August 16, 1987 stellium before the Oct 19 wall street crash & the end of cold war/soviet communism involve the 5 outer planets in 1988-89).
2000 (MD: May 5, 2000 stellium between Y2K day-Jan 1 2000 & 9/11/2001, & the 2003 Mars closest approach to earth and 2004 & 2012 Venus transits Sun).
2020 (MD: Dec 21st Jupiter-Saturn great conjunction in midst of the COVID-19 pandemic, then the mob raid on the US capital the following year, Jan 6, 2021).

It always signals a new direction that the world is heading in. I only see good things happening in the future with the Dec 2020 :saturn::jupiter::conjunct::aquarius:. More humanitarian, less control from gov't, more freedom.

It's easy to believe that our History is being swept away with the fake news but it's only a tiny Marxist minority who want to 're-make the U.S.A.'. 90% or more of Americans LOVE their country, their Constitution, their Flag.

But the tiny minority have the MSM/Big Tech on their side so they appear to be winning...but they're not.
People are fighting back against the nonsense & BLM support has dropped to below 40%: nobody even watches lamestream media anymore.:wink:;)

Antifa will be recognized as a terrorist group which is what it is.

New platforms (Rumble, Bitchute, etc) are being built for free speech. Eventually, the only people left on Twitter & FB will be the Marxist minority.:lol::lol::lol:

The 'woke cancel culture' has FAILED, Coca Cola has lost billions in revenue since their 'be less white' BS campaign was launched, they fired the black lawyer who initiated it & are scrambling to regain revenue.:devil:

Boycotting the 'woke' companies is the best way that Americans can fight back against the madness. CRT is being banned more & more until it's completely out of the school system.

Hollywood is dead too & nobody cares what any of these highly-paid morons has to say! Nobody watched the Oscars.

We are moving on better times ahead.:happy:
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Under the Trump administration, PC-ness and social justice activism was widely rejected, then again, he lost the presidential (re) election when we're widely rejecting bashing groups of people.
 
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