Well, perhaps we got our wires crossed a bit there, but I just think doing anything more than her planet being stronger than the addiction's planet is a bit too much. I thought you were more pushing for Mercury's inclusion in trying to heal her lungs, which is where my comment came from.
Naw, that's what I was aiming at, too - trying to get the ruler of Ascendant stronger than the sig for the addiction. So, as an event chart newbie here, would Mercury in 12th be a good sig for addiction?
Yeah, that's pretty much what I'm saying. Venus being in a Sign she is averted to will hurt her. Mars as Ascendant lord probably wouldn't be useful for awhile, since he's peregrine in Aquarius.
Ah, peregrine - I need to study those terms. Yes, I see what you mean. I guess Mars in Pisces would be even less help.
If she wanted to wait a couple or three months - Mars in Aries as ruler of ASC would be good, no? That should put a few planets in Gemini by that time, too.
So does this mean a neptune square is a good time to quit smoking?
Not if Saturn is as weak as he is in Virgo. Stronger Saturn helps you out. Weaker Saturn kicks your ***.
That's odd - I understand about Saturn being considered weak in Virgo - but I would have thought Saturn in Virgo would be a good taskmaster enforcing good health.
I, too, would have thought a Square from Saturn to Neptune would be a good indicator of quitting smoking.
Saturn is very much involved in everything relating to sobering. Saturn is the key.
Yes, very true - discipline, longevity, determination, self-respect, etc. But you want the good side of Saturn - not the overbearing side. That side of Saturn can make addictions that much worse.
Again, the rulers of the 6th house need to be very strong, because this is where the consideration of moment to moment living is dealt with, whether we are content or not content with our actions such as waking up, making breakfast, doing this, doing that -- how we constructively use time as we go about our day.
Yes, if Saturn is going to be in there, making sure you keep your commitment - you want to make sure you have some positive reinforcements. Hence my suggestion of having Jupiter trining the ruler of the 6th. ( maybe even better if Jup was in 9th or 12th?) ( but then again, every planet has a down side - would Jupiter trine make it "too much work"?) So, what would be considered a strong ruler for the 6th?
TO: Neptune Rising
I agree with JosephLedzion - if you feel the urge to quit - then quit. If it is truly your intuition leading you, then it will be in tandem with compatible astrological placements anyway.
One other thought: One of the biggest factors in quitting an addiction is understanding what is fueling it - in your unique case. Smoking addiction can have any number of root causes driving it. If you know what the psychological factor is, you know more what you are going to have to change to remedy the situation.
Have you considered doing a horary as to
why you smoke? ( Had to get the psychological factor in there, Kai
) I did ask that horary question when the idea came to me. So, if you would want to use that, I asked: Why does she smoke? at 11:15pm on 2-04-09 in Summersville, WV, USA. -- or you could ask it again yourself. That would probably be a separate thread, though.)
