Silversong
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Thank you so much for responding, IleneK! I was afraid that I wrote too much- there was actually a lot that I cut out! . It just that I wanted to write down everything that I could to show that I'd really been thinking about this. So here is my rewrite:
I have found out recently that I am incredibly passive. It seems odd that I wouldn't know it, but it's something that was so natural me that I actually had no awareness as to how passive I am. So now, I need your help to answer three questions: does a strong tendency to passiveness show in my chart? If so, where? Can I study the relevant placements and aspects to begin changing my behavior in a more positive way?
Before delving into my chart, I began thinking about why I am so passive and the way I express it, which made me think of my interpretation of patience: speak once and wait for response/wait to politely call others' attention. To ask again or repeat myself seemed rude and unpleasant, so I always avoided that. Trust me, I am now going to learn to let go of that!
I proceeded to outline my exploration into my chart:
I thought of all of the times when I read that Mars Neptune Oppositions cause a sense of passiveness or lack of initiative in the native's chart, so that jumped out at me. However, I couldn't imagine that it could be so simple, so I looked at the signs they occupy: Cancer and Capricorn.
I next diverted into a spontaneous contemplation on nature of Cardinal signs: Is Cardinal energy inherently Independent? When I take a cursory glace at each sign, it seems like that might be so. It was easiest for me to see in Aries and Capricorn, and after a little more thought, I thought I could understand the independence in Libran energy.
By the time I got back to Cancer, leaving it for last since my Mars is there, I reference an article that helped clarify the relationship between this planet and sign: http://austincoppock.com/2009/08/mars-cancer/
It speaks about the mythology of Mars and Cancer as planet/god and Sign/energy without going straight to crowning this as the Passive-Aggressive placement or things of that nature. When he explains that Cancer is builds foundations and creates an emotional safe-haven, I consider that to be a difficult undertaking that one chooses to do- another type of independent action.
From there, I explain the background of my perspective on independence, since I now think that I have found an insightful point worth exploring. However, as I create the background, it becomes plain to me that this perspective created a behavior pattern in which I rarely attempt to ask for help or speak up about my needs or make myself heard- Passivity.
In the past, as far as I understood it (and never rethought it until very recently), to be independent was to take the initiative on as much as possible without needing to ask for help. If I found something I needed without having to ask someone to guide me there, that was showing independence and ingenuity. If I was able to understand a lesson in class without having to ask for any extra help or tutoring, that was independence and intelligence. If I took the time to research as much as I could about a question before finally asking for help, that was independence and respect of the other person's time (even if I still felt a little like a failure and an imposition when I did have to ask).
After writing this background, I feel like I've gone a bit too far away from talking about my chart and I attempt to bring the focus back to it by discussing more aspects to Mars and how those could have a dampening effect on my Martian energy. I figure that Chiron must be relevant since he is supposed to symbolize a deep wound that everyone has. If he's conjunct Mars, I suppose that that means I have a painful relationship with assertion, action (versus reaction), and initiative. I think that this might be true as I don't know how to stand up for myself and oftentimes I feel that to ask for accommodations and insist on recognition is just asking to be ignored or attacked in some way and since I am afraid of that, I would rather not.
My entire question becomes even more complicated when I realize that I hadn't even talked about my Moon! Certainly, as the emotional center and the ruler of reactive behavior, my Moon must play a role? And if I was going to talk about my Moon, I felt obliged to acknowledge that while I am aware my sun sign is not necessarily about speedy response either, that's a completely different thing from being disinclined to respond at all. However, I felt like I had written much too much (like I said, I was trying to show how much thinking I had done about this before asking because it's not a frivolous question) already and stopped right there.
I am afraid that this rewrite might still be outrageously long but to reiterate: I need your help to answer three questions: does a strong tendency to passiveness show in my chart? If so, where? Can I study the relevant placements and aspects to begin changing my behavior in a more positive way?
Thank you very much, everyone!
I have found out recently that I am incredibly passive. It seems odd that I wouldn't know it, but it's something that was so natural me that I actually had no awareness as to how passive I am. So now, I need your help to answer three questions: does a strong tendency to passiveness show in my chart? If so, where? Can I study the relevant placements and aspects to begin changing my behavior in a more positive way?
Before delving into my chart, I began thinking about why I am so passive and the way I express it, which made me think of my interpretation of patience: speak once and wait for response/wait to politely call others' attention. To ask again or repeat myself seemed rude and unpleasant, so I always avoided that. Trust me, I am now going to learn to let go of that!
I proceeded to outline my exploration into my chart:
I thought of all of the times when I read that Mars Neptune Oppositions cause a sense of passiveness or lack of initiative in the native's chart, so that jumped out at me. However, I couldn't imagine that it could be so simple, so I looked at the signs they occupy: Cancer and Capricorn.
I next diverted into a spontaneous contemplation on nature of Cardinal signs: Is Cardinal energy inherently Independent? When I take a cursory glace at each sign, it seems like that might be so. It was easiest for me to see in Aries and Capricorn, and after a little more thought, I thought I could understand the independence in Libran energy.
By the time I got back to Cancer, leaving it for last since my Mars is there, I reference an article that helped clarify the relationship between this planet and sign: http://austincoppock.com/2009/08/mars-cancer/
It speaks about the mythology of Mars and Cancer as planet/god and Sign/energy without going straight to crowning this as the Passive-Aggressive placement or things of that nature. When he explains that Cancer is builds foundations and creates an emotional safe-haven, I consider that to be a difficult undertaking that one chooses to do- another type of independent action.
From there, I explain the background of my perspective on independence, since I now think that I have found an insightful point worth exploring. However, as I create the background, it becomes plain to me that this perspective created a behavior pattern in which I rarely attempt to ask for help or speak up about my needs or make myself heard- Passivity.
In the past, as far as I understood it (and never rethought it until very recently), to be independent was to take the initiative on as much as possible without needing to ask for help. If I found something I needed without having to ask someone to guide me there, that was showing independence and ingenuity. If I was able to understand a lesson in class without having to ask for any extra help or tutoring, that was independence and intelligence. If I took the time to research as much as I could about a question before finally asking for help, that was independence and respect of the other person's time (even if I still felt a little like a failure and an imposition when I did have to ask).
After writing this background, I feel like I've gone a bit too far away from talking about my chart and I attempt to bring the focus back to it by discussing more aspects to Mars and how those could have a dampening effect on my Martian energy. I figure that Chiron must be relevant since he is supposed to symbolize a deep wound that everyone has. If he's conjunct Mars, I suppose that that means I have a painful relationship with assertion, action (versus reaction), and initiative. I think that this might be true as I don't know how to stand up for myself and oftentimes I feel that to ask for accommodations and insist on recognition is just asking to be ignored or attacked in some way and since I am afraid of that, I would rather not.
My entire question becomes even more complicated when I realize that I hadn't even talked about my Moon! Certainly, as the emotional center and the ruler of reactive behavior, my Moon must play a role? And if I was going to talk about my Moon, I felt obliged to acknowledge that while I am aware my sun sign is not necessarily about speedy response either, that's a completely different thing from being disinclined to respond at all. However, I felt like I had written much too much (like I said, I was trying to show how much thinking I had done about this before asking because it's not a frivolous question) already and stopped right there.
I am afraid that this rewrite might still be outrageously long but to reiterate: I need your help to answer three questions: does a strong tendency to passiveness show in my chart? If so, where? Can I study the relevant placements and aspects to begin changing my behavior in a more positive way?
Thank you very much, everyone!
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