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Unread 10-28-2013, 04:19 AM
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Re: Rules, evidence, intuition?

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(does not exclude the luminaries, which all systems of terms do: note that when using any system of terms one is mechanically discriminating against the Sun and the Moon in arriving at essential dignity: Sun and Moon can score essential dignity by domicile, exaltation, triplicity and face but are automatically excluded from scoring essential dignity by term: puts Sun and Moon at a 20% disadvantage to the other 5 planets in scoring essential dignity and increases the potential for Sun and Moon to be peregrine by 20% over the other 5 planets!!
I'm not sure that the luminaries are at a disadvantage. There are several sources (al-Qabisi is the one that comes most immediately to mind) that give them each a half of the chart (the Sun from the beginning of Leo up to the end of Capricorn, and the Moon from the beginning of Aquarius through the end of Cancer.) These then are the "terms/bounds" of the lights, and should be treated as such. Why this idea fell out of favor is beyond me, but it makes quite a bit of sense, and if nothing else gives the luminaries a very large advantage over the rest of the planets...as it should be.

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Re: Rules, evidence, intuition?

There were some early dignity allocations for Sun and Moon (as you mention, above) Another ancient one was assigning the first 15 degrees of masculine signs to the Sun, the last 15 degrees to the Moon (and the reversal for feminine signs)-as the "bounds" (so to speak) of the Sun and Moon: however, by Bonatti's times these had completely vanished vis a vis both the concept of essential dignity and also the concept of reception as well-and none of these methods (al-Qabisi or the Sun/Moon sections of each sign or the ancient monomoiria) enter into determinations of essential dignity, peregrine status or reception, in the practice of (traditional)Western astrology from the 12th century to the present time...lost knowledge, in my opinion!!
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