Jupiter-Time, 400 day calendar, approaching the Scorpioyear!

"A recent revelation was prompted by Nicola Tesla's vision of the Earth as a "tuning fork" for accessing energy. The Age Interval concept was first applied to the Sidereal Zodiac, placing it on Tropical Aries. So, that gave both a first point, and a last point, in the form of a tuning fork for Earth's resonance. Although I was disappointed with the specific Sidereal correlations to the Age-developments, they worked best by using the center as a "tipping-point", when the new manifestations began to overcome the old ways. This appears to be a regular pattern Sidereally, but not Tropically. Seasonality is a viable explanation: When a Cardinal-sign Age begins, it's a new Season of Ages. The old Season's cultural resistance is fierce, and pushes the true developments of the new towards the second half, with the culmination at the end (our current situation during our Age of Capricorn). But, with the resistance to the new Season severely weakened, the Fixed-sign Age can get off to a nearly immediate start.
By centering the "tuning-fork" on the Astronomical point of Earth's Perihelion, the center-point comes into focus, and the Trident is formed--a direct correlation to the Ancient-Greek "Trident of Earthly Authority", or "Gaia's Trident". The first point describes the Age-effect on us as Individuals, the center point is about Society, and the third is about Tradition. Fixed-sign Age Individuals, acting in concert, voluntarily, can bend the Social-order to their will, even though the Social-point of the Trident is still Transiting the Cardinal-sign. Tradition is in disarray, because it's losing its Age-Seasonal support, and has to adjust to the new Season of Ages. It's especially difficult now, because all three Ages of the Fall were spiritually oriented (Air, Water,and Fire), and Capricorn is a very materialistic Earth-sign."

To fully grasp this Id be helped a lot by some visual representation.

Yes, tradition is in disarray, and I am already constructing a new tradition. This has been my path from when I was roughly initiated into magic (and survived, barely). I knew all traditions to have crumbled then, including science.

By the way -
the Romans connected Odin to Mercury, and Thor to Jupiter - given Odin is the trickster god who divined the Runes (writing) and Thor is the thunder god. But its not quite that simple. The Gods do not correspond literally to other pantheons - they are actually their own entities. Strong correlation between them exists like between types of humans/charts -- but Nordic myth dates from the Stone Age, and refers intricately to the process of conception, birth, life, and death - Thors hammer is said to be the heart. When Thors hammer got stolen by Loki, it means Thor died. Only the one who stole it could bring him back to life - Loki.

Loki is crucial.

If you want to see some strange things, call on Loki in the presence of forest animals.

Where Thors hammer is the Heart, Odins single eye might be seen as the intuitive, penetrating mind, which sinks into Mimirs well and divines the Runes.

Allow me to insert my odes to the first three runes.

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Feoh
"Cattle"
Wealth

The cattle come slowly though the mud from the north. The bulls horns are adorned with iron. The cows, a trail longer than the eye can see in the january mist, will provide wealth, meat and milk. Newly woven baskets with fine flowers on long stems in them are carried by girls standing along the path. The tower of brick and natural stone is visible above the welcoming.

A beginning of a prosperous phase. The winter as a time of reward; a time given to the rich, the happy. Endless festivities, music, stories told in great halls to many happy feasters. Outside the forests are unthreatening, well guarded by archers in thick yet silent leather in which they move well and swiftly, trained by long standing tradition. Villains are shown some mercy.


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Uruz
"Aurox"
Strength

Pure masculine power. Raw energy, completely unconditioned. Unacceptable standards of strength. A mans maximal capacity for lust. The drive that causes murder and war. Blindness of losing oneself in what one is without goals.

Digging downward-forward. Ploughing through life and leaving fertile chaos and upheaval as a trail. Mammoth strength. Marching barbarian army. The synchronized heartbeats of a million soldiers. Drums in the deep.

Roar of a monstrous predator already too close to see. Encroaching darkness. Male Earth. Pillars being drilled into the ground. Pillars being raised. Primordial phallic strength. Brute rhythms. Satan.

Excess force flows back into the Earth. The kundalini turned downward.

The need for resistance. Powerful jaw. Raging bull. Walking the Earth in search of pain to grow by. To know oneself the hard way.

Titanic determination. All or death. The force that blindly enslaves. Strength that builds empires.


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Thurisaz
"Thorn"
Impulse

Rip, thorn. Ragged, drawn out tear in the fabric. Gaping black out of which monsters (can) come. White teeth, cat teeth, sharks, or the horns of a bull. Wrathful, seriously pissed, lightning hurled down in irritation, flat, hard ramming. Then, silence to lick the wounds and wait until the beep subsides.

The Thurisaz rune initiates the world into the heart of a man, the awesomeness he loves in youth so as to not grow cowardly in age. Memory of disorienting rattling and wounds, a leg stuck to a spike, sudden blood, mesmerizing pain that forgets the future and becomes the now.

The blow of the axe, the small setback in the weaving of a fine fabric. The error around which we seek for re-perfection. In this sense Thurisaz is the father to god or the religious instinct. But it is not the religious instinct, rather the opposite. That which ruptures and ravishes before the maiden ready.

Cruel bindings, love of life's zig-zag motions, a too sharp curve in a roller-coaster, a voice breaking, becoming hoarse and truthful. A nail struck right on the head. A single hailstone that comes through the roof and splits the table, shattering the grails and goblets, then laughter and wine and gratitude for life.

blacksun? said:

Allow me to insert my odes to the first three runes.

ᚠ
Feoh
"Cattle"
Wealth

The cattle come slowly though the mud from the north. The bulls horns are adorned with iron. The cows, a trail longer than the eye can see in the january mist, will provide wealth, meat and milk. Newly woven baskets with fine flowers on long stems in them are carried by girls standing along the path. The tower of brick and natural stone is visible above the welcoming.

A beginning of a prosperous phase. The winter as a time of reward; a time given to the rich, the happy. Endless festivities, music, stories told in great halls to many happy feasters. Outside the forests are unthreatening, well guarded by archers in thick yet silent leather in which they move well and swiftly, trained by long standing tradition. Villains are shown some mercy.


ᚢ
Uruz
"Aurox"
Strength

Pure masculine power. Raw energy, completely unconditioned. Unacceptable standards of strength. A mans maximal capacity for lust. The drive that causes murder and war. Blindness of losing oneself in what one is without goals.

Digging downward-forward. Ploughing through life and leaving fertile chaos and upheaval as a trail. Mammoth strength. Marching barbarian army. The synchronized heartbeats of a million soldiers. Drums in the deep.

Roar of a monstrous predator already too close to see. Encroaching darkness. Male Earth. Pillars being drilled into the ground. Pillars being raised. Primordial phallic strength. Brute rhythms. Satan.

Excess force flows back into the Earth. The kundalini turned downward.

The need for resistance. Powerful jaw. Raging bull. Walking the Earth in search of pain to grow by. To know oneself the hard way.

Titanic determination. All or death. The force that blindly enslaves. Strength that builds empires.


ᚦ
Thurisaz
"Thorn"
Impulse

Rip, thorn. Ragged, drawn out tear in the fabric. Gaping black out of which monsters (can) come. White teeth, cat teeth, sharks, or the horns of a bull. Wrathful, seriously pissed, lightning hurled down in irritation, flat, hard ramming. Then, silence to lick the wounds and wait until the beep subsides.

The Thurisaz rune initiates the world into the heart of a man, the awesomeness he loves in youth so as to not grow cowardly in age. Memory of disorienting rattling and wounds, a leg stuck to a spike, sudden blood, mesmerizing pain that forgets the future and becomes the now.

The blow of the axe, the small setback in the weaving of a fine fabric. The error around which we seek for re-perfection. In this sense Thurisaz is the father to god or the religious instinct. But it is not the religious instinct, rather the opposite. That which ruptures and ravishes before the maiden ready.

Cruel bindings, love of life's zig-zag motions, a too sharp curve in a roller-coaster, a voice breaking, becoming hoarse and truthful. A nail struck right on the head. A single hailstone that comes through the roof and splits the table, shattering the grails and goblets, then laughter and wine and gratitude for life.

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Wow! Elegant, deep, and intense. Do you use rune stones for divination?

What's the archetypal equivalent (I agree that each pantheon has its own internal integrity, and exact comparisons are inaccurate) of Loki in the Greco-Roman format? Climate plays a part--Norse religions are cold-weather, unlike the Mediterranean region.

The explanation for how it was arrived at will require graphics. Visualizing the Age Trident in the Chart, it's a Sign's-width (30 degrees between the outer tines) trident, drawn from Earth at the center to the circle of the Zodiac. The trident form works both Tropically and Sidereally, but the Astronomical point locating it is different from one coordinate system to the other. The Sidereal locator for the Trident is ALSO the Tropical location of the First Point of Aries, so another measured point is needed to locate it Tropically. In both cases the locating point for the Trident is moving due to Earth's "wobble" as it rotates, and is a Terrestrial feature--hence, "Gaia's Trident". Tropically, the Trident's third point, the one indicating Earth's current effect on our Traditional world-view, is near the end of Sagittarius, now Conjunct transiting Saturn. Extremely difficult for the "Third World", which tends to maintain a Traditional lifestyle. The Trident's first point is simultaneously near the end of Capricorn, approaching Aquarius, which mainly affects the "First World", which is more Individualistic.

Pluto is currently Conjunct the Tropically located Trident's middle, and second point, which is affecting the "Second World". This specifically includes Socialistic North Korea, which appears to be courting destruction.

I do, but Ive only managed a true divination a few times -

when I had collected the bones of some chicken legs which counted nine, ritually cleaned them and tossed them in the snow as the sun hit the horizon. A completely legible runescript appeared, economically using several of the bones for two runes, interconnecting them into a beautiful reading that made the most perfect sense.

Sometimes, a rune will appear to me like lightning in the bark of a tree.
Other times, Ill see the footsteps of a bird in the snow, and thats a beautiful pattern of protector runes.

What I do every day is find living wood and dead wood, and honour the gods that press me the most, by laying their runes.

david starling said:

What's the archetypal equivalent (I agree that each pantheon has its own internal integrity, and exact comparisons are inaccurate) of Loki in the Greco-Roman format? Climate plays a part--Norse religions are cold-weather, unlike the Mediterranean region.

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In the Norse pantheon he is a Giant, a villainous brother to Odin - so he might be compared to Saturn in the evil trickster form - but this makes of Saturn a very sweet entity, because Loki is extremely nice to and beloved by animals. So thats not entirely it. In astrology, Planetarily, Uranus seems very connected, but Ive been trying to narrow it down without much success so far. Maybe the Moon plays a part - maybe he is like the god coming about at strong aspect sof Moon to Jupiter, Mercury and Uranus. That could be it. The Norse pantheon is entirely lunar in its orientation, wolf like, crow like, not so much about society to the Sun which is most of the time shrouded in mist, as about personal glory and depth of sentiment, connections to things unseen and feared by most creatures - perhaps a mythology of Hades altogether - or of Eleusis, where it is neither day nor night.

Here is a list of epithets Loki is marked by.

brother of Byleistr, brother of Helblindi, blood brother of Odin, confidant of Thor, friend of Odin, friend of Thor, fromkveda flaerdanna (seductive speaking), gift bearer, harmer of Sif’s hair, laugaz (blazing god), laugatjanaz (blazing one), prisoner of Geirrodr, rogur (slanderer), scar lip, sea thread’s father (the sea thread is a kenning for the Midgard serpent), sky walker, slaegi (sly), slaegurtyr (sly god), staunch friend of Hoenir, thief of brisingamen, thief of giants, thief of Idunn’s apples, vaelandi (debasing), villi-eldr (blazing), wolf’s father

Ah, this trident now makes sense to me, at least in its effects. I was still thinking it connected also to the reversed motion according to which we re supposed to be exiting the age of Pisces - but this trident is just a pattern of a signs breadth which indicates the process as a whole... if I understand correctly.

A pattern is at least emerging.

david starling said:

Pluto is currently Conjunct the Tropically located Trident's middle, and second point, which is affecting the "Second World". This specifically includes Socialistic North Korea, which appears to be courting destruction.

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Like Venezuela.
So we form the spearhead of the world moving into Aquarius where the third world is actually just moving into Capricorn?

It may be I am getting this totally wrong. Without visuals these things tend to take a while to click.

This notion of the third world as entering Capricorn now, correctly or falsely understood on my part, this is nicely accompanied by the fact that Saturns ingress into Capricorn happens during its conjunction with the Sun, thus on the (coming) winter solstice.

This is clearly beautiful moment for Saturn, and definitely justifies the inception of a Saturn Calendar. (♄)

December 21 will the beginning of the first registered year/cycle(runic: ᛄ : Jera) of Saturn - people who are now having their first Saturn return were largely born with Uranus and Neptune also in Capricorn - that group is going to be influential.

blacksun? said:

Ah, this trident now makes sense to me, at least in its effects. I was still thinking it connected also to the reversed motion according to which we re supposed to be exiting the age of Pisces - but this trident is just a pattern of a signs breadth which indicates the process as a whole... if I understand correctly.

A pattern is at least emerging.



Like Venezuela.
So we form the spearhead of the world moving into Aquarius where the third world is actually just moving into Capricorn?

It may be I am getting this totally wrong. Without visuals these things tend to take a while to click.

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You got it right. The first world is on the cutting edge of the movement into the Aquarian Age. I use "Age of" for the Trident's leading point, with the understanding that there's a one-Sign's-length overlap, so it's not entirely "out with the old, in with the new". Tropically, it's really the Fixed-sign nature of Aquarius which makes the beginning of its Age so momentous. The Cardinal-sign Ages develop slowly, against the Social and Traditional resistance of the previous Age-season. So, the beginning of the Winter Age-season was marked by the beginning of the Dark Ages. The shock of entering Winter, with the tremendous increase in Saturn's influence, was a real problem, and the acceptance of Saturnian Age-rulership took many centuries.
The Sidereal Zodiac has its own Trident placement, which explains the Retrograde movement ("precession of the Equinox"). This is where the Third World retains its Piscean spiritual connection, while the First World is beginning to change over to the Aquarian. They both work, and the Aquarian Age is beginning both spiritually, as tracked in the Sidereal setting; and in mundane affairs, as can be described Tropically. Two Age-effects are occurring at once, one spiritual, the other mundane. We need both to help us understand what the Earth is telling us.

Both Tropical AND Sidereal Ages entering the same Sign, in opposite directions in the two different Zodiacal settings, is momentous. To determine the spiritual Age-effect in your own Chart, you have to look at the Sidereal version.

These two Earth's Age effects don't cancel each other out--they occur in combination, Tropical (mundane), and Sidereal (spiritual). The problem is that everyone's trying to make sense of the mundane situations using the Sidereal Ages. Violates the "right tool for the right job" dictum.

blacksun? said:

This notion of the third world as entering Capricorn now, correctly or falsely understood on my part, this is nicely accompanied by the fact that Saturns ingress into Capricorn happens during its conjunction with the Sun, thus on the (coming) winter solstice.

This is clearly beautiful moment for Saturn, and definitely justifies the inception of a Saturn Calendar. (♄)

December 21 will the beginning of the first registered year/cycle(runic: ᛄ : Jera) of Saturn - people who are now having their first Saturn return were largely born with Uranus and Neptune also in Capricorn - that group is going to be influential.

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What does this mean? I have the Saturn Uranus Neptune conjunction in the 5th. I'm apart of a facebook group with a lot of people looking for interpretations/what to expect

InfoOverload2 said:

What does this mean? I have the Saturn Uranus Neptune conjunction in the 5th. I'm apart of a facebook group with a lot of people looking for interpretations/what to expect

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There is no precedent for this. It looks like the most powerful Saturn transit Ive ever seen. Also, it will all happen in concert with the transition of Uranus into Taurus. We move from fire into Earth, both in terms of progressive and conservative impulses.

What I would recommend to your group is to not be passive, to not wait to see what it means. This is you. This group of yours, these millions of people in their late twenties who have these connections, they will simply be the ones to step up, I expect, and tell the other people in the world what is what.

I know a lot of people from your group. One of them became my most trusted friend very quickly, he is wise far beyond his years. It appears like these people are deeply aware of their own struggle, which is an excellent sign, as basically if you're not puzzled and struggling, you're missing the important parts of life.

I would see ahead to this time with great confidence and a sense of purpose, I would take it upon yourself to acknowledge the blessings given by Saturn, which include fortitude and realism, along with great self-questioning, which is perhaps the prime virtue in this time.

But don't be afraid of becoming a pawn. You might feel like that, being moved forward or backward now and then, but we are all pawns in this sense, and pawns do get promoted to queens when they break through.

Let yourself be moved by the great Necessitator. Perhaps I should go further and recommend that from december 21st onward, until Saturn leaves Capricorn, you don't listen to anyone who isn't of your generation, and seek out as much advice as you can from people in that same age group, with Saturn and Uranus (and many, Neptune) in Capricorn.

No one in this world knows what is going on. Not quite. Its all in flux too much, too many agents, too much paradigmatic change. But we will be finding out the coming years.

david starling said:

Both Tropical AND Sidereal Ages entering the same Sign, in opposite directions in the two different Zodiacal settings, is momentous. To determine the spiritual Age-effect in your own Chart, you have to look at the Sidereal version.

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Ah, that makes sense.
Sidereally I am Capricorn - my Sun is right in the middle of the constellation, by latitude as well, and my Saturn exactly in the middle of the constellation Cancer.
My Sidereal ascendant is Pisces. Mars in Sagittarius, Jupiter in Aries.

You guys just reminded me of something random, but related to both of your perspectives.

Have you thought about the Fibonacci sequence against the dynamic nature of evolution on a cosmic level? Some people dont think "big picture," in a holistic kind of way, as it relates to the cyclical patterns in the universe. And by "cycle," I'm not referring to running around on a flat circle, such as simply surviving natal transits and chasing our tails in a one-dimensional way (although plenty of people seem to do just that). Rather, I'm referring to the natural process of evolution in an upward and expansive way -- growth, progress, transformation.... the universe does this, with us or without us. The Fibonacci sequence is simply the "golden ratio" in mathematics, but it's visible everywhere in the universe, including your hands, face, flowers in nature, even in the patterns of how we advance the growing body of human knowledge..... its really amazing to observe, if you know how to see it. (Which I believe both of you are observing through your own unique perspectives.)

Check out this video, it does a good job of explaining the concept. I think both of you will find it applicable to each of your fields of specialty in astrology. There are other online lectures on this fascinating area of mathematics, if you're interested. Just check YouTube or Ted. But it's one way the universe is explained through numbers, which is most definitely part of the beauty in astrology too.

The double-helix, DNA model can be applied to evolution. Instead of a flat, circular pathway, each revolution moves upward in 3 dimensions.

david starling said:

The double-helix, DNA model can be applied to evolution. Instead of a flat, circular pathway, each revolution moves upward in 3 dimensions.

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.....and we could say the same thing for the evolution of knowledge.

blacksun? said:

There is no precedent for this. It looks like the most powerful Saturn transit Ive ever seen. Also, it will all happen in concert with the transition of Uranus into Taurus. We move from fire into Earth, both in terms of progressive and conservative impulses.

What I would recommend to your group is to not be passive, to not wait to see what it means. This is you. This group of yours, these millions of people in their late twenties who have these connections, they will simply be the ones to step up, I expect, and tell the other people in the world what is what.

I know a lot of people from your group. One of them became my most trusted friend very quickly, he is wise far beyond his years. It appears like these people are deeply aware of their own struggle, which is an excellent sign, as basically if you're not puzzled and struggling, you're missing the important parts of life.

I would see ahead to this time with great confidence and a sense of purpose, I would take it upon yourself to acknowledge the blessings given by Saturn, which include fortitude and realism, along with great self-questioning, which is perhaps the prime virtue in this time.

But don't be afraid of becoming a pawn. You might feel like that, being moved forward or backward now and then, but we are all pawns in this sense, and pawns do get promoted to queens when they break through.

Let yourself be moved by the great Necessitator. Perhaps I should go further and recommend that from december 21st onward, until Saturn leaves Capricorn, you don't listen to anyone who isn't of your generation, and seek out as much advice as you can from people in that same age group, with Saturn and Uranus (and many, Neptune) in Capricorn.

No one in this world knows what is going on. Not quite. Its all in flux too much, too many agents, too much paradigmatic change. But we will be finding out the coming years.

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Thank you for this. Do you have any thoughts on the cycle of the Saturn-Uranus-Neptune conjunction?

In Virgo -
March 30th - July 26th 627 AD
August 24, 624 (leap year?) - October 30th, 626 AD
Cycle: 679 years, 2 months, 2 days later:

In Scorpio
December 31 1305 - March 25 1306
September 10th, 1306 - December 1st 1308 (leap year?)

Cycle: 679 years, 3 months later:
In Capricorn
February 29 1988 (leap year) - June 2 1988
November 13 1988 - February 6 1991

Next up is Pisces in 2668 (leap year)


Aries, Taurus?, Gemini, Cancer, Leo, Virgo, Libra, Scorpio, Sagittarius, Capricorn, Aquarius, Pisces

Looks like it comes and goes on a leap year but not sure. I'm still learning astrological cycles so I'm not sure if the cycle stands out at all. While researching these dates I came up with the year 2052 being an important year/part of a cycle

InfoOverload2 said:

Thank you for this. Do you have any thoughts on the cycle of the Saturn-Uranus-Neptune conjunction?

In Virgo -
March 30th - July 26th 627 AD
August 24, 624 (leap year?) - October 30th, 626 AD
Cycle: 679 years, 2 months, 2 days later:

In Scorpio
December 31 1305 - March 25 1306
September 10th, 1306 - December 1st 1308 (leap year?)

Cycle: 679 years, 3 months later:
In Capricorn
February 29 1988 (leap year) - June 2 1988
November 13 1988 - February 6 1991

Next up is Pisces in 2668 (leap year)


Aries, Taurus?, Gemini, Cancer, Leo, Virgo, Libra, Scorpio, Sagittarius, Capricorn, Aquarius, Pisces

Looks like it comes and goes on a leap year but not sure. I'm still learning astrological cycles so I'm not sure if the cycle stands out at all. While researching these dates I came up with the year 2052 being an important year/part of a cycle

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Hey, nice work!
I hadn't looked back that far.

This gives some pause.
Ive looked at the history timelines for these periods.
In both periods, there were enormous religious changes.
The first period was marked by the rapid subjection by the Mohammedans of the Arab world. The second period is being referred to as the deep crisis of the dark ages. On the other hand, right at the moment of he conjunction, the Germans started producing paper - we could liken this to the creation of the internet, this time around - and the popes moved from Rome to the magnificent Palace Des Papes in Avignon.

When I first had my car, I went out for a drive and didn't come back for some weeks. I drove from Amsterdam to southern France. Approaching Avignon on the highway from Lyon, it was raining like the ocean was being dropped onto the road. Through the torrents of skywater saw apparitions of ruins and jagged trees on hilltops, and I said to myself: this is my town.

The next evening I was sitting on the warm stone of the high walls of the Palais des Papes, and a girl came sitting next to me. She told me to listen to the stones.

Avignon is a terribly beautiful city. Perhaps the loveliest in all of Europe. Perhaps that snot possible to say about any city that isn't Greek or Italian. But the spirit there is old, and good.

In any case, I would say that your generation is going to carry a lot of spiritual weight. The previous two conjunctions both were followed by gigantic spiritual upheavals. Its just a question of "which one of them would reach him first" -- eh, I mean, of the type of spirit.

Nothing will stay the same. That much seems clear.