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Jupiter, I found an interesting map. There are 2 angles which possibly out of the 10th house and 4th house. Are they able to be identifying as angular house despite the angle is not in the 10th house and 4th house? Thank you in advance.

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Jupiter, I found an interesting map.
There are 2 angles which possibly out of the 10th house and 4th house.
Are they able to be identifying as angular house
despite the angle is not in the 10th house and 4th house?
Thank you in advance.
perhaps you refer to
MC/IC angles when located other than in 10th/4th houses
ANGULAR HOUSE when using WHOLESIGN HOUSES = 1st/7th/4th/10th houses
"THE ANGLES OF A CHART" = ASC/DESC/MC/IC
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Shaolin monks believe that strength comes only from the mind
hence there are almost no limits
in what they can do and endure while training their bodies.
They practice balance, strength, flexibility, endurance and self-defense
being capable to endure unimaginable pains without blinking.
They are living role-models for people who complain for nothing
for people who expect others
do things in their place
or on their behalf
for lazy people
for fearful people
for the people who self-victimize all the time
throwing responsibility on anything and anyone else
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perhaps you refer to
MC/IC angles when located other than in 10th/4th houses
ANGULAR HOUSE when using WHOLESIGN HOUSES = 1st/7th/4th/10th houses
"THE ANGLES OF A CHART" = ASC/DESC/MC/IC
Yes, it's true I understand but the angle is not in angular, example: MC in 9th house and IC automatically in 3th house. My initial thought is the angle's power would be less powerful because the angle is in Cadent. Is that true?
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Yes, it's true I understand but the angle is not in angular, example:
MC in 9th house and IC automatically in 3th house.
My initial thought is the angle's power would be less powerful
because the angle is in Cadent.
Is that true?
Remember 3rd/9th houses are aspecting ascendant
in conrast
both 6th and 12th houses as well as being CADENT are IN AVERSION
to the ascendant

so
since planets in 3rd/9th houses ASPECT ASCENDANT
then
3rd/9th houses are considered preferable places for planets
keep in mind that
MC/IC location is entirely dependent on location North/South of Equator
i.e.
for example
when using any quadrant bases system such as the usual default Placidus
nativities at extremes North/South of the Equator
display some houses as being almost “non-existent”
and others seem exaggeratedly extensive
and so
using WHOLE SIGN HOUSES clarifies with reference to topics
however
even with WHOLE SIGN HOUSES MC/IC may appear on 9th/3rd axis
even 12th/6th axis

and thus
EITHER
MC/IC considered “less powerful” when placed 9th/3rd or 12th/6th
OR
MC/IC considered to “empower” 9th/3rd or 12th/6th

also
consider HOUSE SIGNFICIATIONS

i.e.
when MC/IC appears 9th/3rd or 12th/6th
then the SIGNIFICATIONS of 9th/3rd or 12th/6th are linked to 10th house significations





Any planet that is in conjunction with an angle
will have a marked influence that resonates throughout the chart
and greatly colours its overall meaning.
Because of their primary importance
the angles are often referred to as the 'cardinal points'
and they relate directly to the cardinal directions east, south, west and north.
The word 'cardinal' comes from the Latin cardo meaning 'hinge',
indicating something of primary importance.
Ancient astrologers viewed the cardinal points
as the great axis that held the earth in position
thus Manilius, writing in the first century BC, asserts:
These points are charged with exceptional powers
and the influence they exert on fate is the greatest known to our science
because the celestial circle is totally held in position by them
as by eternal supports.
Angular houses (sometimes called cardinal houses)
are those that begin with the angles.

When a planet is placed in an angular aka cardinal house
it is performing more powerfully.
Whatever it represents will show its force in a swift and dynamic fashion.

The succeedent houses are so named because
the planets within them succeed by the diurnal movement of the heavens
to the cardinal position.
These planets experience a position of mediocre strength.

The word 'cadent' means 'fallen'
and is the root of the word cadaver meaning corpse.
A planet in a cadent house
has been carried by the diurnal movement away from the cardinal position
symbolising something that has moved from a position of power
into a condition of weakness
or a fall from grace http://www.skyscript.co.uk/horary1d.html

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Remember 3rd/9th houses are aspecting ascendant
in conrast
both 6th and 12th houses as well as being CADENT are IN AVERSION
to the ascendant

so
since planets in 3rd/9th houses ASPECT ASCENDANT
then
3rd/9th houses are considered preferable places for planets
keep in mind that
MC/IC location is entirely dependent on location North/South of Equator
i.e.
for example
when using any quadrant bases system such as the usual default Placidus
nativities at extremes North/South of the Equator
display some houses as being almost “non-existent”
and others seem exaggeratedly extensive
and so
using WHOLE SIGN HOUSES clarifies with reference to topics
however
even with WHOLE SIGN HOUSES MC/IC may appear on 9th/3rd axis
even 12th/6th axis

and thus
EITHER
MC/IC considered “less powerful” when placed 9th/3rd or 12th/6th
OR
MC/IC considered to “empower” 9th/3rd or 12th/6th

also
consider HOUSE SIGNFICIATIONS

i.e.
when MC/IC appears 9th/3rd or 12th/6th
then the SIGNIFICATIONS of 9th/3rd or 12th/6th are linked to 10th house significations





Any planet that is in conjunction with an angle
will have a marked influence that resonates throughout the chart
and greatly colours its overall meaning.
Because of their primary importance
the angles are often referred to as the 'cardinal points'
and they relate directly to the cardinal directions east, south, west and north.
The word 'cardinal' comes from the Latin cardo meaning 'hinge',
indicating something of primary importance.
Ancient astrologers viewed the cardinal points
as the great axis that held the earth in position
thus Manilius, writing in the first century BC, asserts:
These points are charged with exceptional powers
and the influence they exert on fate is the greatest known to our science
because the celestial circle is totally held in position by them
as by eternal supports.
Angular houses (sometimes called cardinal houses)
are those that begin with the angles.

When a planet is placed in an angular aka cardinal house
it is performing more powerfully.
Whatever it represents will show its force in a swift and dynamic fashion.

The succeedent houses are so named because
the planets within them succeed by the diurnal movement of the heavens
to the cardinal position.
These planets experience a position of mediocre strength.

The word 'cadent' means 'fallen'
and is the root of the word cadaver meaning corpse.
A planet in a cadent house
has been carried by the diurnal movement away from the cardinal position
symbolising something that has moved from a position of power
into a condition of weakness
or a fall from grace http://www.skyscript.co.uk/horary1d.html

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Jupiter, I found an interesting map. There are 2 angles which possibly out of the 10th house and 4th house. Are they able to be identifying as angular house despite the angle is not in the 10th house and 4th house? Thank you in advance.
Only angular houses are angular houses.
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Only angular houses are angular houses.
Not according to most WSH users...
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Not according to most WSH users...
I hear you. People can observe Angular houses however they like but the geometry can’t be made up. Angular houses have a values of 0 and are right angles of a circle which represents houses(energy) that is corresponded by the ‘cusps’ of 10th, 7th, 4th and 1st.
They are created by the horizon and meridian axes not by man lol
Anything out of these axes can’t have the harmonics associated with that angle value.
I just don’t know how people don’t understand the geometry.
It’s fairly self explanatory.
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I hear you.
People can observe Angular houses however they like
but the geometry can’t be made up.


Angular houses have a values of 0
and are right angles of a circle
which represents houses(energy)
that is corresponded by
the ‘cusps’ of 10th, 7th, 4th and 1st.


They are created by the horizon and meridian axes
not by man lol


Anything out of these axes
can’t have the harmonics
associated with that angle value.

I just don’t know how people don’t
understand the geometry.
It’s fairly self explanatory.



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I hear you. People can observe Angular houses however they like but the geometry can’t be made up. Angular houses have a values of 0 and are right angles of a circle which represents houses(energy) that is corresponded by the ‘cusps’ of 10th, 7th, 4th and 1st.
They are created by the horizon and meridian axes not by man lol
Anything out of these axes can’t have the harmonics associated with that angle value.
I just don’t know how people don’t understand the geometry.
It’s fairly self explanatory.
Regarding geometry, the M.C./I.C. axis isn't usually at a right angle to the Asc/Desc axis.
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