piercethevale
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Been re reading a lot of Robert Zoeller's book on Arabic Parts and it has struck me as quite obvious that all the ancient astrologers that Zoeller, and most everyone else is so fond of clinging to for source info had most likely been doing natal charts for people for whom there, was most very probably, hadn't been accurate birth times recorded.
As the Ascendant changes a whole degree every 4 mins. these Parts that they seemed so cocksure about were being deduced from the kind of evidence that wouldn't get a second glance in a courtroom in todays world.
I recently deduced that my own natal Asc. surely must be the prior degree. This only required my adjusting the recorded time of 7:41 pm back 45 seconds in time, thus changing my Asc. from 17* Scorpio 10' to 16* Scorpio 58'. The only other House cusps that changed to a previous degree are the 6th and 12th. My M.C. is still in the 25th of Leo as well as my part of Fortune.
This also changed a number of my astrological Parts/Lots, to a previous degree...which includes the part of Hyleg ...which at the 7th degree of Capricorn I was relieved to see see changed to the 6th as the Sabian Symbology for the 7th is pretty darn pretentious.
[Rudhyar]
(CAPRICORN 7°): "A VEILED PROPHET SPEAKS, SEIZED BY THE POWER OF A GOD.
KEYNOTE: The ability to act as a mouthpiece for the revelation of a transcendent will and truth determining future action."
(CAPRICORN 6°): "TEN LOGS LIE UNDER AN ARCHWAY LEADING TO DARKER WOODS.
KEYNOTE: The need to complete any undertaking before seeking entrance to whatever is to be found beyond."
[...and here that number 10 pops up again... the Grand Semi Quintile... that I've connected to the YOD ...the true YOD, the True Finger of God that points to the way to truly integrate the oppositions found in the Zodiac.
My mothers initials were HH, Helen Huff, and by Hebrew transliteration that is 55 ... the esoteric number for the Virgin Mother, Mary ...my mothers middle name was 'Virginia'... Yes, there is more than coincidence about this... It was brought to my attention by my clairvoyant friend and spiritual confidante, Clarisse Conner back in 2007 just prior to my 55th birthday in 2008 ...which is on May 6th ...my mother went into labor on May 5th...5-5...but, I digress...]
So, what I'm saying is ...pretty much... let go of what these ancients, for example such as Albumassar, had to say about these Parts... Let us get busy with contributing our own observations to this thread and determine for ourselves just what these calculated positions do really infer.
Please people...contribute to the study here!
...what it says... "The need to complete any undertaking before seeking entrance to whatever is to be found beyond...!!!!!!!!!!"
As the Ascendant changes a whole degree every 4 mins. these Parts that they seemed so cocksure about were being deduced from the kind of evidence that wouldn't get a second glance in a courtroom in todays world.
I recently deduced that my own natal Asc. surely must be the prior degree. This only required my adjusting the recorded time of 7:41 pm back 45 seconds in time, thus changing my Asc. from 17* Scorpio 10' to 16* Scorpio 58'. The only other House cusps that changed to a previous degree are the 6th and 12th. My M.C. is still in the 25th of Leo as well as my part of Fortune.
This also changed a number of my astrological Parts/Lots, to a previous degree...which includes the part of Hyleg ...which at the 7th degree of Capricorn I was relieved to see see changed to the 6th as the Sabian Symbology for the 7th is pretty darn pretentious.
[Rudhyar]
(CAPRICORN 7°): "A VEILED PROPHET SPEAKS, SEIZED BY THE POWER OF A GOD.
KEYNOTE: The ability to act as a mouthpiece for the revelation of a transcendent will and truth determining future action."
(CAPRICORN 6°): "TEN LOGS LIE UNDER AN ARCHWAY LEADING TO DARKER WOODS.
KEYNOTE: The need to complete any undertaking before seeking entrance to whatever is to be found beyond."
[...and here that number 10 pops up again... the Grand Semi Quintile... that I've connected to the YOD ...the true YOD, the True Finger of God that points to the way to truly integrate the oppositions found in the Zodiac.
My mothers initials were HH, Helen Huff, and by Hebrew transliteration that is 55 ... the esoteric number for the Virgin Mother, Mary ...my mothers middle name was 'Virginia'... Yes, there is more than coincidence about this... It was brought to my attention by my clairvoyant friend and spiritual confidante, Clarisse Conner back in 2007 just prior to my 55th birthday in 2008 ...which is on May 6th ...my mother went into labor on May 5th...5-5...but, I digress...]
So, what I'm saying is ...pretty much... let go of what these ancients, for example such as Albumassar, had to say about these Parts... Let us get busy with contributing our own observations to this thread and determine for ourselves just what these calculated positions do really infer.
Please people...contribute to the study here!
...what it says... "The need to complete any undertaking before seeking entrance to whatever is to be found beyond...!!!!!!!!!!"
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